i've become more of a mustang guy after these last few models but i would not say no to the camaro.
- kicksave856

the mustangs look way less ugly but 650 bhp

the mustangs look way less ugly but 650 bhp
- daeth

yeah the camaros are faster now i think but i like the sleeker looks of the mustang.

the camaros were better looking to me as a kid because mustangs were those little fox body hatchbacks but then 1993 happened and everything was ugly.

eventually god realized what we had done and he took the camaro and firebird away, yelling down in a booming voice "this is why you can't have nice things!"

in the meantime mustangs got weird and somehow even uglier. they eventually upgraded the weird ugly mustang to a sharper, pointy ugly mustang and that still sucked. finally they went retro and although it was pretty terrible at first it finally evolved into what it is now and for the first time in a long time i think it's beautiful.

within the timeframe of this retro revival, the camaro and the dodge challenger also came back to fight things out and things are finally back where they were before i was born when muscle cars were fighting it out at drag strips. and if i was alive back then i can tell from the pictures i would have chose mustangs. so i think it's all come full circle and i feel good.


the end

that zl1 front end really is badass though.

that zl1 front end really is badass though.
- kicksave856

the side and back are ._.

AT BEST

yeah the camaros are faster now i think but i like the sleeker looks of the mustang.

the camaros were better looking to me as a kid because mustangs were those little fox body hatchbacks but then 1993 happened and everything was ugly.

eventually god realized what we had done and he took the camaro and firebird away, yelling down in a booming voice "this is why you can't have nice things!"

in the meantime mustangs got weird and somehow even uglier. they eventually upgraded the weird ugly mustang to a sharper, pointy ugly mustang and that still sucked. finally they went retro and although it was pretty terrible at first it finally evolved into what it is now and for the first time in a long time i think it's beautiful.

within the timeframe of this retro revival, the camaro and the dodge challenger also came back to fight things out and things are finally back where they were before i was born when muscle cars were fighting it out at drag strips. and if i was alive back then i can tell from the pictures i would have chose mustangs. so i think it's all come full circle and i feel good.


the end
- kicksave856

we really are in a hell of a timeline for muscle cars again. it's kinda exciting

we really are in a hell of a timeline for muscle cars again. it's kinda exciting
- daeth

i spend an inordinate amount of time getting wasted and watching old car review videos and i'm always amazed by the 80's and how the fuel shortage and all from a few years prior had us making mustangs and chargers with like 110 horsepower.

i don't need to do 190 mph but if i'm in a dodge charger i expect to be able to merge onto a highway pretty trouble free.

i spend an inordinate amount of time getting wasted and watching old car review videos and i'm always amazed by the 80's and how the fuel shortage and all from a few years prior had us making mustangs and chargers with like 110 horsepower.

i don't need to do 190 mph but if i'm in a dodge charger i expect to be able to merge onto a highway pretty trouble free.
- kicksave856

yeah the new regulations really (frank)ed our cars up bad in the 80s. i will never understand how they managed to get a 5L V8 to produce like 150 bhp in the late 80s. you've got pens with more horsepower these days.

yeah the new regulations really (frank)ed our cars up bad in the 80s. i will never understand how they managed to get a 5L V8 to produce like 150 bhp in the late 80s. you've got pens with more horsepower these days.
- daeth

i mean look at this poop!




(we had a 76 when i was a kid)

i've become more of a mustang guy after these last few models but i would not say no to the camaro.
- kicksave856

never a ford

never a ford
- BINGO!

i've had no bad experiences with ford.



*has never owned a ford*

i mean look at this poop!




(we had a 76 when i was a kid)
- kicksave856

well the first error was getting a buick while under the age of 70 but that is seriously underpowered yes

well the first error was getting a buick while under the age of 70 but that is seriously underpowered yes
- daeth

back then buick was the luxury car people bought who couldn't afford cadillacs.

we eventually moved on up to the east side and did own a few cadillacs.

back then buick was the luxury car people bought who couldn't afford cadillacs.

we eventually moved on up to the east side and did own a few cadillacs.
- kicksave856

im excluding the gnx of course

i grew up around pick up trucks and work vans. it's probably why i am the way i am really. it's not my fault.

im excluding the gnx of course

i grew up around pick up trucks and work vans. it's probably why i am the way i am really. it's not my fault.
- daeth

ah yes. the gnx was a beast.

watsonnostaw
- kicksave856

(frank) him

i just wanted to talk to him about cars

- kicksave856

invest heavily in saab

(frank) him
- watsonnostaw

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- Gramps28

HE'S HERE!!


guys, he's here. it's okay now.

watson, i know you watch racing and i've just never been able to get into it but have you ever watched any of the production car races? cause i found some on the internet and i can't stop watching those.

watson, i know you watch racing and i've just never been able to get into it but have you ever watched any of the production car races? cause i found some on the internet and i can't stop watching those.
- kicksave856

check out the bathurst 6 hour races on youboob

HE'S HERE!!


guys, he's here. it's okay now.
- kicksave856

Meh

check out the bathurst 6 hour races on youboob
- daeth

they do look cool but what i was watching were like bmw's and hyundai velosters and mustangs and porsches that all looked fairly normal except for the wacky paint jobs and sponsor tags on them. there were all different classes racing at once so there was a lot of passing and stuff. it was cool.

oh wait, i just saw your cross-thread post (love that kind of thing, btw) and i think i'm into it.

they do look cool but what i was watching were like bmw's and hyundai velosters and mustangs and porsches that all looked fairly normal except for the wacky paint jobs and sponsor tags on them. there were all different classes racing at once so there was a lot of passing and stuff. it was cool.
- kicksave856

oh that sounds even more cool. i had never heard of it, i just saw bathurst come up when i googled it and i like that track. the supercar racing on there gets wild