I was going to boycott the season because of the strike and then this happened.

I hope that the Sabres are bringing Ruff upstairs to help with the management decisions and that they are not just parting ways....he brings a lot of hockey knowledge and he should help get rid of some of the deadweight on the team.

There are some sorry lads on this team that are getting some big dollars...it is one of the biggest payrolls in the NHL. McCormick should have gone to the minors a long time ago, but he will end up on another team in the East.

Although I like Ruff and Reigher, it does not look like they are folks that can win.

Leadership cannot be passive, when people tend to work only to survive from year to year, then there is no success. It is a recipe for collapse from within.
The economy sucks because no one is willing to take risks...the old guys running companies never want to change because they like the way things are and they want things to stay that way until they retire.......well that's not what sports is all about.
And that is also not what brought Terry Pegula success.

Not winning the Stanley Cup is one thing; not making the playoff still another;
Losing games on the road, ok; but not winning at home and not icing a team with grip and grind, or entertainment value, well that is just totally unacceptable.

The team has attracted Passive people and they in turn surrounded themselves with introverted people. Nothing against Reigher's ability or Ruff's coaching style. However, the players like Miller or Pomminville - they would not know how to yell at someone if they had to....their interviews put me to the sleep when I'm running on a treadmill. Ott is a move in the right direction, but not enough.

We need a few players with charisma and drive; and we need a coach like Tortellera or Roy to put some drive in and nails in the rears of a few other players. Maybe even Shoenfield.....to tell the refs to eat some more donuts....that would get the adrenalin going....instead I can fall asleep running on a treadmill watching these guys!

Use the minor team....give some of the no name players a chance...not just the prospects.....find out where your character guys are? be inventive? not Hechtive!

So what if we brought back Hasek and maybe even Satan and we had some controversy in the changeroom, maybe a couple of guys stepping it up, calling each other out and punching each other out. Maybe thats what Connolly and Roy did, but the first sign of extraverted behavior, we had to ship them out. So what if we pulled Connolly off waivers when he goes on re-entry?

Philadelphia thought they had the right idea last year....too much extroverted adrenalin here they said....lets get rid of Richards and Carter.....the introverted LA KINGS got that message and look what happened......I rest my case!
- RicoMartin

http://www.hockeybuzz.com...?thread_id=104164&page=18

Here's hoping Rolston's message has sunk in a little, and the team responds. A quick turnaround and a dominate game could be the accelerant needed for the inferno they wanted with the spark created by dismissing Ruff.

For once, the Islanders aren't slouches, so, a nice 5 to 2 win could a much needed confidence booster.

Or not. I mean, we trounced Boston, and that did nothing for them. Beat them in our third game against them, and that still wasn't good enough.

But again, the management made a bold move relieving Ruff, and if they could just get the pace picked up, we could see the talent on the team show through.

I know a lot of the regulars here dismiss the players as having no talents, or being weak, but the team DOES have talent. I loaded the season opener against Philly onto my iPod and have been watching it on lunch breaks at work, and together, they're juggernauts. They looked so seamless and squared away. But when they play as individuals, there's no sign of the talent.

I know the whole 'strength in numbers' thing is cliche, but it's true. When they played as a unit, they were dominant. They had puck possession, they only faultered here or there. Little trip ups every team makes on a nightly basis, as expected, but the overall performance is great.

I'll never be the type to quickly dismiss the team members as useless, unwarrented, not skilled or any of the other things I see on here a lot (though I know why a lot of people feel that way, don't get me wrong), and I'll even give Hecht a pass for the half season he'll be taking up a spot on the roster. Hecht is skilled, but, for whatever reason, he lost his touch. But he can still bring intangables to the chemistry. If he sets up a handful of plays that give someone like Kevin Porter or Gerbe or, should he see the ice again, even Grigorenko, a chance to pot a goal, and it ends up being a positive, then I'm willing to see him skate.

I don't pretend to know stats or hockey history as much as some posters here whom actually do know their stuff, but I do know what I see on the ice per game. I was a Gaustad defender, and I hated to see him go. I was a Ruff defender, and hated to see him go. Goose brought grit and faceoffs, and sometimes he'd get that goal that would juice up the team. He was a hard worker, and he didn't take shifts off. That means more to me than a points getting forward like Roy, who apparently, behind the scenes, was a bit of a cancer to morale.

However, I have a new Gaustad in the form of Steve Ott. I like his style of play a lot. I keep hoping his enthusiasm and drive will rub off on the other players. Like a domino effect. If Hecht were to be inspired by a play Ott made, and Hecht goes out on a shift, hits a guy to loosen up a puck, carries it into the neutral zone with Gerbe trailing, passes it to him and then he puts it in the net, that's the team clicking.

But I don't see examples like that happen on the ice. I see Ott grinding, making some great hits, and the team not caring. Just sitting on the bench. Heads down or slouched forward. That's gotta go.

But again, that's just an example. I mean the easiest way to sum it up is that the team is playing to the tempo of a whiney Seether song, when they should be skating with the swagger of a song like Cult Of Personality.

I'd like to see some trades, sure. Move Pominville for a 1st rounder and a prospect. I mean, I see a lot of pessimism here regarding players trade value, but Goose fetched a first rounder. You don't think GM's look at a player like Stafford and see potential? They've seen what he can do on a line when his game is on. You don't think Pittsburgh wouldn't mind having someone like Stafford on their second line? Or even Philly? The Isles plugged Boyes into their top line. The fact that WE don't see these guys in those roles on our team means nothing.

Not being a troll or a know it all, but no one on here has any hockey sense. It's a lot of monday morning quarterback's and grammatically incoherent trolls. Case in point, fat murderous porn stars. I just think some people should leave the 'It's been going on for so long!' arguments with Lindy, and take a fresh perspective with the team, that's all.

Feel free to dissect and troll.

-TSchiefer

Here's hoping Rolston's message has sunk in a little, and the team responds. A quick turnaround and a dominate game could be the accelerant needed for the inferno they wanted with the spark created by dismissing Ruff.

For once, the Islanders aren't slouches, so, a nice 5 to 2 win could a much needed confidence booster.

Or not. I mean, we trounced Boston, and that did nothing for them. Beat them in our third game against them, and that still wasn't good enough.

But again, the management made a bold move relieving Ruff, and if they could just get the pace picked up, we could see the talent on the team show through.

I know a lot of the regulars here dismiss the players as having no talents, or being weak, but the team DOES have talent. I loaded the season opener against Philly onto my iPod and have been watching it on lunch breaks at work, and together, they're juggernauts. They looked so seamless and squared away. But when they play as individuals, there's no sign of the talent.

I know the whole 'strength in numbers' thing is cliche, but it's true. When they played as a unit, they were dominant. They had puck possession, they only faultered here or there. Little trip ups every team makes on a nightly basis, as expected, but the overall performance is great.

I'll never be the type to quickly dismiss the team members as useless, unwarrented, not skilled or any of the other things I see on here a lot (though I know why a lot of people feel that way, don't get me wrong), and I'll even give Hecht a pass for the half season he'll be taking up a spot on the roster. Hecht is skilled, but, for whatever reason, he lost his touch. But he can still bring intangables to the chemistry. If he sets up a handful of plays that give someone like Kevin Porter or Gerbe or, should he see the ice again, even Grigorenko, a chance to pot a goal, and it ends up being a positive, then I'm willing to see him skate.

I don't pretend to know stats or hockey history as much as some posters here whom actually do know their stuff, but I do know what I see on the ice per game. I was a Gaustad defender, and I hated to see him go. I was a Ruff defender, and hated to see him go. Goose brought grit and faceoffs, and sometimes he'd get that goal that would juice up the team. He was a hard worker, and he didn't take shifts off. That means more to me than a points getting forward like Roy, who apparently, behind the scenes, was a bit of a cancer to morale.

However, I have a new Gaustad in the form of Steve Ott. I like his style of play a lot. I keep hoping his enthusiasm and drive will rub off on the other players. Like a domino effect. If Hecht were to be inspired by a play Ott made, and Hecht goes out on a shift, hits a guy to loosen up a puck, carries it into the neutral zone with Gerbe trailing, passes it to him and then he puts it in the net, that's the team clicking.

But I don't see examples like that happen on the ice. I see Ott grinding, making some great hits, and the team not caring. Just sitting on the bench. Heads down or slouched forward. That's gotta go.

But again, that's just an example. I mean the easiest way to sum it up is that the team is playing to the tempo of a whiney Seether song, when they should be skating with the swagger of a song like Cult Of Personality.

I'd like to see some trades, sure. Move Pominville for a 1st rounder and a prospect. I mean, I see a lot of pessimism here regarding players trade value, but Goose fetched a first rounder. You don't think GM's look at a player like Stafford and see potential? They've seen what he can do on a line when his game is on. You don't think Pittsburgh wouldn't mind having someone like Stafford on their second line? Or even Philly? The Isles plugged Boyes into their top line. The fact that WE don't see these guys in those roles on our team means nothing.

Not being a troll or a know it all, but no one on here has any hockey sense. It's a lot of monday morning quarterback's and grammatically incoherent trolls. Case in point, fat murderous porn stars. I just think some people should leave the 'It's been going on for so long!' arguments with Lindy, and take a fresh perspective with the team, that's all.

Feel free to dissect and troll.

-TSchiefer
- CaptainRivet

I was going to post this as well.

I was going to post this as well.
- dadeadhead

oh hi dadeadhead

It's not quite the same but that post reminds me of the original Sabres fan Epic Post ("You can have Peters. Twice."

There is no OUTSIDE answer, friends.

Steve Kohn, formerly of the Blue Line, calls me a few days ago, and poses the question, IF the Hawks had "brought in" that big tough center, would Hossa has every had that happen to him...?

Answer: Ask any real expert about the present NHL and they will all say players that can get you more offensive, more offensive chances, with speed, quick sticks, and some scoring skill mixed in are the biggest thing you need, and having the best offensive ability to strike, tie, reagin a lost lead, and cause fits for team who are unable to keep the time possession close to equal are what you need the most of and they are in demand.

When someone tells me about...that missing "big centre" who will strike fear and be there to keep things clean, and be physical, and be able to play with the present bunch, I can only think of Ryan Getzlaf.

Is Getzlaf for sale? No
Joe Thornton for sale? No
Any other quicker "crimefighting" centre who plays at THEIR level available? No.

AND that is not even talking about what they get paid, the trade cost is, what their Cap space is, what with a shrinking Cap next time around.

This white Buffalo so many astute fans want is just that.

You have that guy on the roster, only he is five foot ten, named Andrew Shaw.

and besides, all teams employ lessers like Bollig and Mayers and that hasn't stopped the BS that continues to go on, it may deter the lesser lights from getting big "courage" to take liberties, but there are always gonna be pot shots, reactive thoughtful reactions where guys act dumb and hurt others...the game has always been full of them.


There is only horse plop available and the minute they see the ice as a hawk they degrade, the speed, skill, and quick stick ability that we see from the present bunch (no matter what any of you (and me) thinks about them, or their "deficits...")
you have made this team less effective at the way they play.

I did love when there was a scrum in front of Emery and one of the pushers was 88, big
Brett Burns. Carcillo immediate went to him pushed back hard twice, and then Burns did a pirouette way and Carcillo went to others.
I just think that is their enough answer at various engagements during a match, things have a way of not becoming games where one team starts "pot shoting."

I have no watched the entire game again. Bolland did not play in the third, but played everyone of his shifts in the second period...although the play at the end of the second didn't have his line out there.

(I watched this the second period first, isolating Bolland, looking for any possible contact that might help me decern what got injured.
Honestly theree was no contact, hit that would have pointed to the specifity of the injury...

Then I watched the first period, and there were only two instances that seemed minor but might point towards what the inury may be...if it was one caused by play in this game...
the first was when in the first Bolland went to the net and there was some stick jousting that might have pulled arm or shoulder muscles...
the other was what seemed to be an innocuous play in the attack zone and as Bolland got close to the wall in motion towards the gaol line, he took a slight rub to the ear head by Jason Demers.

As I said this could have been sometime already there and he tried playing through it. There was no lack of effort or apprehension of contact by Bolland at any time, but the third time I watched the second period (Please no comments, as I hear enough of them for watching the prsopects oevr and over..) it did seem like I could read in, Bolland not trying strong accurate "strength" passes when in command of the puck, just sort of dishing instead being the man going up ice, but he has always been able to relagate and sort of disappear when the team gaisns the lien and swooping into a position make a play for the puck.

I am gonna guess muscle pull or shoulder strain...

Phaneuf > Weber" - mykokes
- ShootingSemin

Ah good, but I think it was more a matter of saying Phaneuf at 6.5M isn't that far off from Weber at $7,857,143. I think I also said if Phaneuf had Suter beside him the last 4 years, he'd likely be just as effective as Weber. I don't think I ever said Phaneuf > Weber.

Ah good, but I think it was more a matter of saying Phaneuf at 6.5M isn't that far off from Weber at $7,857,143. I think I also said if Phaneuf had Suter beside him the last 4 years, he'd likely be just as effective as Weber. I don't think I ever said Phaneuf > Weber.
- mykokes

Ah good, but I think it was more a matter of saying Phaneuf at 6.5M isn't that far off from Weber at $7,857,143. I think I also said if Phaneuf had Suter beside him the last 4 years, he'd likely be just as effective as Weber. I don't think I ever said Phaneuf > Weber.
- mykokes

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Not epic...but laughable.

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Not epic...but laughable.
- PoileRulezzzYo

How's this season going so far? Weber still racking up the points like last year? He still on a 20 goal clip?

Year to date 19 3 6 9 -6 2 5 0 0 0 24 39 7.69 47
vs
Year to date 19 3 4 7 2 0 3 0 0 1 13 49 6.12 36

Phaneuf's got more hits, and yeah, the -6.......likely because he's got 7 of his 9 points on the PP, but I thought Weber was so good that he could carry Nashville's PP all by himself. Is what he's done worth the 1M plus he's making on Phaneuf?

And lets not forget, you guys have Rinne, while we have Reimer and Scrivens....hmmmmmm

-Leafland

Even with that babe upside down, I recognize that gorgeous rack, that must be Katie Perry. Did any of u see how hot she looked at the Grammy's with that very busty tight green dress??? The only thing that was missing was my hands around her waist. LOVE U KATIE!!!!!!!

-GCHonda
- Feeling Glucky?

friends, here is no OUTSIDE answer.

How's this season going so far? Weber still racking up the points like last year? He still on a 20 goal clip?

Year to date 19 3 6 9 -6 2 5 0 0 0 24 39 7.69 47
vs
Year to date 19 3 4 7 2 0 3 0 0 1 13 49 6.12 36

Phaneuf's got more hits, and yeah, the -6.......likely because he's got 7 of his 9 points on the PP, but I thought Weber was so good that he could carry Nashville's PP all by himself. Is what he's done worth the 1M plus he's making on Phaneuf?

And lets not forget, you guys have Rinne, while we have Reimer and Scrivens....hmmmmmm
- mykokes

[quote=kicksave856]
I feel this thread has moved from epic into stupid again...

I feel this thread has moved from epic into stupid again...
- muffin_man

ebbs and flows. ebbs and flows.

How's this season going so far? Weber still racking up the points like last year? He still on a 20 goal clip?

Year to date 19 3 6 9 -6 2 5 0 0 0 24 39 7.69 47
vs
Year to date 19 3 4 7 2 0 3 0 0 1 13 49 6.12 36

Phaneuf's got more hits, and yeah, the -6.......likely because he's got 7 of his 9 points on the PP, but I thought Weber was so good that he could carry Nashville's PP all by himself. Is what he's done worth the 1M plus he's making on Phaneuf?

And lets not forget, you guys have Rinne, while we have Reimer and Scrivens....hmmmmmm
- mykokes

You are not allowed to nominate yourself. Please take this elsewhere and stay on topic.

How's this season going so far? Weber still racking up the points like last year? He still on a 20 goal clip?

Year to date 19 3 6 9 -6 2 5 0 0 0 24 39 7.69 47
vs
Year to date 19 3 4 7 2 0 3 0 0 1 13 49 6.12 36

Phaneuf's got more hits, and yeah, the -6.......likely because he's got 7 of his 9 points on the PP, but I thought Weber was so good that he could carry Nashville's PP all by himself. Is what he's done worth the 1M plus he's making on Phaneuf?

And lets not forget, you guys have Rinne, while we have Reimer and Scrivens....hmmmmmm
- mykokes

Is there really anyone, anywhere that would take Phaneuf over Weber? Maybe if Phaneuf got back on the blow (allegedly).

Is there really anyone, anywhere that would take Phaneuf over Weber? Maybe if Phaneuf got back on the blow (allegedly).
- ShooterMcGavin

STAY ON TOPIC.

epic posts or gtfo.

friends, here is no OUTSIDE answer.
- dt99999

I like him calling big, true 1st line centres "crime fighting" centers. I want that to catch on

You are not allowed to nominate yourself. Please take this elsewhere and stay on topic.
- nfph

I like him calling big, true 1st line centres "crime fighting" centers. I want that to catch on
- S Kaspar Rollins

if only Fred McGriff had played hockey.

Whatever dude, you act like your someone's fuc king grandma. Ban me please, every time you don't , I just come back here to this crap fest and get annoyed by how fracking stupid most people are. Lets not even mention how its ok for people to totally disrespect me and as soon as I respond your fu cking fascist ass chimes in to warn me about my manners. Well fuc k you buddy. I got better things to do than try to educate a bunch of uninformed morons.

-Aquaman_2400

if only Fred McGriff had played hockey.
- dt99999

lol

Whatever dude, you act like your someone's fuc king grandma. Ban me please, every time you don't , I just come back here to this crap fest and get annoyed by how fracking stupid most people are. Lets not even mention how its ok for people to totally disrespect me and as soon as I respond your fu cking fascist ass chimes in to warn me about my manners. Well fuc k you buddy. I got better things to do than try to educate a bunch of uninformed morons.

-Aquaman_2400
- Leafland

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