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S Kaspar Rollins
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 06.22.2007

Dec 13 @ 7:05 PM ET
Where's Ek's insane 4 am post from the other night where he quoted like 80 different posts for some reason?
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Dec 13 @ 7:08 PM ET
Where's Ek's insane 4 am post from the other night where he quoted like 80 different posts for some reason?
- S Kaspar Rollins

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robjs22
Edmonton Oilers

Location: Canada, AB
Joined: 07.19.2007

Friday @ 1:26 PM ET
Hey Ek.
It isn't Starchoice anymore.
It is Shaw now.
WayneZ
Season Ticket Holder
New Jersey Devils

Location: Taking bets on whether the Rangers or Flyers wind up with Taylor Hall., WY
Joined: 01.28.2008

Friday @ 1:26 PM ET
What does Russia have to do with all of this?
- dt99999


I read on here they were invading Sweden, Finland and Brazil. Rough business.
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens

Location: Wearing my agenda glasses
Joined: 11.18.2008

Friday @ 1:27 PM ET
I read on here they were invading Sweden, Finland and Brazil. Rough business.
- WayneZ



Are all three ground invasions?
Whipper333
Season Ticket Holder
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 11.02.2006

Friday @ 1:28 PM ET
I read on here they were invading Sweden, Finland and Brazil. Rough business.
- WayneZ

Stay on topic
Oilhab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Truculency in Motion
Joined: 07.01.2006

Friday @ 1:28 PM ET
Are all three ground invasions?
- dt99999


Underground invasions. Huge tunnels created by sling boxes or something like it.
WayneZ
Season Ticket Holder
New Jersey Devils

Location: Taking bets on whether the Rangers or Flyers wind up with Taylor Hall., WY
Joined: 01.28.2008

Friday @ 1:29 PM ET
Are all three ground invasions?
- dt99999


There are rumors that they are attempting to tunnel under the atlantic in order to get to Brazil, but im waiting on a call to confirm. More to come.
Oilhab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Truculency in Motion
Joined: 07.01.2006

Friday @ 1:29 PM ET
There are rumors that they are attempting to tunnel under the atlantic in order to get to Brazil, but im waiting on a call to confirm. More to come.
- WayneZ


Late Guidette
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens

Location: Wearing my agenda glasses
Joined: 11.18.2008

Friday @ 1:30 PM ET
Underground invasions. Huge tunnels created by sling boxes or something like it.
- Oilhab



This is most interesting.
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens

Location: Wearing my agenda glasses
Joined: 11.18.2008

Friday @ 1:30 PM ET
There are rumors that they are attempting to tunnel under the atlantic in order to get to Brazil, but im waiting on a call to confirm. More to come.
- WayneZ



This is most interesting.
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens

Location: Wearing my agenda glasses
Joined: 11.18.2008

Friday @ 1:30 PM ET
Late Guidette
- Oilhab



This is most interesting.
Oilhab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Truculency in Motion
Joined: 07.01.2006

Friday @ 1:31 PM ET
This is most interesting.
- dt99999


More interesting then this:

This is most interesting.
- dt99999
boltsfan48
Tampa Bay Lightning

Location: Lithia, FL
Joined: 07.08.2009

Friday @ 1:31 PM ET
There are rumors that they are attempting to tunnel under the atlantic in order to get to Brazil, but im waiting on a call to confirm. More to come.
- WayneZ




its a chunnel on steriods.
Eklund
Commissioner

Joined: 09.15.2005

Friday @ 1:32 PM ET
Hey Ek.
It isn't Starchoice anymore.
It is Shaw now.
- robjs22


ah, thanks!
WayneZ
Season Ticket Holder
New Jersey Devils

Location: Taking bets on whether the Rangers or Flyers wind up with Taylor Hall., WY
Joined: 01.28.2008

Friday @ 1:33 PM ET
its a chunnel on steriods.
- boltsfan48


It is also rumored the Brazil tunnel attack will come precariously close to the Florida coast, and the Russian government is going to sneak some KHL scouts into a Lightning game, to look in on Vinny. This will surely lead to Vinny to KHL rumors. It's all part of the plan to distract the Brazilians from the impending attack.
KPE18
Season Ticket Holder
New York Rangers

Location: Rozsival sucks, NY
Joined: 06.24.2009

Friday @ 1:34 PM ET
ah, thanks!
- Eklund


any rangers roomers?
WayneZ
Season Ticket Holder
New Jersey Devils

Location: Taking bets on whether the Rangers or Flyers wind up with Taylor Hall., WY
Joined: 01.28.2008

Friday @ 1:35 PM ET
any rangers roomers?
- KPE18


Any trade scenarios?
rmdevil313
New Jersey Devils

Location: Pelley's #1 Fan, NJ
Joined: 01.05.2009

Friday @ 1:35 PM ET
any rangers roomers?
- KPE18


Who are the rangers? It's all about the flyers!!!!!!!!
Freezewiz
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montréal
Joined: 02.22.2008

Friday @ 1:36 PM ET
www.shawdirect.ca
boltsfan48
Tampa Bay Lightning

Location: Lithia, FL
Joined: 07.08.2009

Friday @ 1:36 PM ET
It is also rumored the Brazil tunnel attack will come precariously close to the Florida coast, and the Russian government is going to sneak some KHL scouts into a Lightning game, to look in on Vinny. This will surely lead to Vinny to KHL rumors. It's all part of the plan to distract the Brazilians from the impending attack.
- WayneZ



and to sway hedman to come back and play with his brother in sweden and will eventually lead to him playing in the KHL when they and the swedish leagues combine to form one pan-continental league
Oilhab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Truculency in Motion
Joined: 07.01.2006

Friday @ 1:36 PM ET
Any trade scenarios?
- WayneZ


Any Potential Transactions?
geoff_182
Colorado Avalanche

Location: The Twilight Zone
Joined: 07.20.2007

Friday @ 1:37 PM ET
must be nice to afford all that stuff.
Oilhab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Truculency in Motion
Joined: 07.01.2006

Friday @ 1:38 PM ET
must be nice to afford all that stuff.
- geoff_182


You can to, first you hire Scarl........
WayneZ
Season Ticket Holder
New Jersey Devils

Location: Taking bets on whether the Rangers or Flyers wind up with Taylor Hall., WY
Joined: 01.28.2008

Friday @ 1:40 PM ET
and to sway hedman to come back and play with his brother in sweden and will eventually lead to him playing in the KHL when they and the swedish leagues combine to form one pan-continental league
- boltsfan48


Norway may be involved also. It's a little know fact that Stamkos was actually born in Oslo, but was smuggled into Canada in a nike shoe box. They then staged a labor and Stamkos was "born" in Canada. He was a whopping 18lbs 9oz.
Oilhab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Truculency in Motion
Joined: 07.01.2006

Friday @ 1:43 PM ET
Norway may be involved also. It's a little know fact that Stamkos was actually born in Oslo, but was smuggled into Canada in a nike shoe box. They then staged a labor and Stamkos was "born" in Canada. He was a whopping 18lbs 9oz.
- WayneZ


Stamkos is the Canadian Obama?

Cool.
boltsfan48
Tampa Bay Lightning

Location: Lithia, FL
Joined: 07.08.2009

Friday @ 1:55 PM ET
must be nice to afford all that stuff.
- geoff_182




whats great is that all of us are paying for him to get the stuff.(i am not a season ticket holder but still)

and yet here you are. I love people who feel they can judge me because they are so much better than me. I am so lucky to gave people so obviously superior to me visit my humble little site.

It is so wrong that a person who works hard and provides a service that people enjoy gets to support his wife and two kids. Such a travesty.

It makes so much sense that a few people on here know more about the truth behind what I write than say the teams and NHL does. You would think
if I was just making these rumours up the NHL and teams wouldn't invite me into the press box.

We are lucky on hockeybuzz to have a few people who know more than the NHL or teams and can judge the validity of my information without even having to have any direct knowledge themselves.

And yes, not only does bob mckenzie follow me, but he sent me his book and will be a guest on my podcast in the coming weeks.

Listen, anyone who doesn't understand what I do and what a rumor is by this point is really a person we should worry about

--Eklund
S Kaspar Rollins
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 06.22.2007

Dec 14 @ 3:07 PM ET
Every second post in any of Strickland's threads are long enough to be epic posts for some reason. But this guy literally wrote a thesis on Andy Murray:

Historically they've fired coaches(different owners and what not), before a big night. So I was hoping.

Here's more of what I've been getting at at how to properly treat young players with large amounts of talent. Notice the acceptance of Ruff's expectation that the player will suffer some set backs he has to work through. http://sports.espn.go.com...=lebrun_pierre&id=4727686

Like last year's treatment of Stamkos, who incidently I completely under-rated(thus far),(I thought he'd take just a tad longer to develop and would peak at a thrity goal scorer who might hit a couple of seasons of forty but not much more than a point per game player). What I'm getting at here is that you can see a connection with players that have the talents to play in the NHL, might be lacking a few things that'd necessarily make then completely dominant at this level but mostly they are brought along by encourgement and allowing them to grow like any human activity by making mistakes and encourgement and support while doing so, before placing lofty expectations from them. Some will gain ground quickly others might take some more time, but that time will dramatically decrease when given the chance.

Eller can play in the NHL and should. I think Junland could as well. There are ways to be creative. For instance would if you had both Jundland and Petro on your roster and didn't play either of them every night but had a coach who dealt specifically with them in their preperations for the games they are scheduled for and how to actively watch games combined with an outstanding off-ice regiment. Why must me always think in the box or feel the need to imitate an albeit highly successful program in Detriot? i think Detriot had an excellent system but that secret's out and the game has changed to the point where now teams draft more for talent than the size they once coveted over talent thus over these last few years lessening Detriot's ability to find these gems so late in the draft. Now it has more to do with identifying needs and balancing it on drafting talent with a character type in mind that has the greatest potential to work hard and make it against the normal odds.

I bring this all up to make it perfectly clear that it is my thesis that Andy Murray is detrimental to any organization in this day in age when you have to accept the fact that you must bring in a young player each and every season in order to have any real expectation of a franchise that won't hit a direct cycle of winning and eventually bottom feeding to rebuld. In order to truly be competetive for a long period of time you must be able to replace and identify assests fairly early on thus being able to refill the talent pool in the system.

I understand that the Blues are looking to create a talented minor league team that better enables development of talent in the lower levels while acheiving a habit of winning throughout the organization. that is smart business. But we are not there yet. It must be balanced with reasonable expectation that it is harder to appease European players as they will have less patience in the minors unless you can allow them some creature comforts that are better than those they'd find in their home countries or in Russia.

There needs, must be a solution to these problems. There is no reason why a player like Chris Porter should still be stuck in Peoria when he's an upgrade of a couple of current roster players. Why haven't the Blues attempted to explore Jundland at a forward spot if they haven't given him more than a game to establish himself in the NHL. One game was ridiculous. You have to account for nervousness and the pyche of a young player. I think the Blues may have ruined a surprisingly good player like Wagner by Andy Murray's treatment of him the same way Berglund has looked.

This is poor identification of asset appreciation in my opinion. It also is creating a stagnet atomosphere on the roster where in not everyone is held to the same standard. The standard appears to be quick changes and not making mistakes. Mistakes will happen. The question is identifying the risk reward decision making proces versus just bad play. Also since day one, Murray's teams have played the third period often times flat-footed and have given up late goals throughout his tenure. I recall even hearing Bernie Federko remark on a certain game against Calgary a couple of seasons that had the feeling of being a season changer when in the first period his team began defending a one goal lead on the road and playing for not giving up a goal rather then continuing to forecheck and bring it to the Flames the way they were before scoring. Initially it looked as if they were dominant. Then quickly they were playing on their heels and lost momentum late in the period. But of course Murray doesn't believe in momentum but despite true match ups won't play players that were sitting in agame during a win no matter how dominant they may play a particular team or how poorly.

Murray is great at identifying how another team seeks to play and their various patterns. But he'll design hisd game plan focussing entirely on how to disrupt the oppossing team's style and except for last year's work on the power play, merely had his team play against the strengthes mostly through match ups rather than figuring out the patterns and strengthes of his own team and how to successfully implement them in order to acheive success. That is one of his greatest downfalls.

To reiterate, Three aspects of Murray's game leads to him being an unsuccessful coach in the NHL, They are:

1)His inabilty to allow true growth and support of young players. Rather than playing towards their individual strengthes and ability to sometimes make mistakes they begin to play fearful of making mistakes.

2) His unjust ways of treating players, what is okay for some players is not okay ofr others. In other words, it is not a set standard for the players on a TEAM.

3) His inability to coach his team to their strengthes and abilities but rather coaching to disrupting the other teams' strengthes and abilities.

There is of course a few more things in my opinion that are highly more succesful when coaching highschool players but falters when you start to coach a higher and higher level of play and talent.


3 pages, 1,111 words, I give it a b-, decent ideas could use a better conclusion
PredsFan95
Nashville Predators
Location: Your opinion sucks. Mine is wa
Joined: 12.26.2008

Dec 14 @ 3:11 PM ET
Every second post in any of Strickland's threads are long enough to be epic posts for some reason. But this guy literally wrote a thesis on Andy Murray:

Historically they've fired coaches(different owners and what not), before a big night. So I was hoping.

Here's more of what I've been getting at at how to properly treat young players with large amounts of talent. Notice the acceptance of Ruff's expectation that the player will suffer some set backs he has to work through. http://sports.espn.go.com...=lebrun_pierre&id=4727686

Like last year's treatment of Stamkos, who incidently I completely under-rated(thus far),(I thought he'd take just a tad longer to develop and would peak at a thrity goal scorer who might hit a couple of seasons of forty but not much more than a point per game player). What I'm getting at here is that you can see a connection with players that have the talents to play in the NHL, might be lacking a few things that'd necessarily make then completely dominant at this level but mostly they are brought along by encourgement and allowing them to grow like any human activity by making mistakes and encourgement and support while doing so, before placing lofty expectations from them. Some will gain ground quickly others might take some more time, but that time will dramatically decrease when given the chance.

Eller can play in the NHL and should. I think Junland could as well. There are ways to be creative. For instance would if you had both Jundland and Petro on your roster and didn't play either of them every night but had a coach who dealt specifically with them in their preperations for the games they are scheduled for and how to actively watch games combined with an outstanding off-ice regiment. Why must me always think in the box or feel the need to imitate an albeit highly successful program in Detriot? i think Detriot had an excellent system but that secret's out and the game has changed to the point where now teams draft more for talent than the size they once coveted over talent thus over these last few years lessening Detriot's ability to find these gems so late in the draft. Now it has more to do with identifying needs and balancing it on drafting talent with a character type in mind that has the greatest potential to work hard and make it against the normal odds.

I bring this all up to make it perfectly clear that it is my thesis that Andy Murray is detrimental to any organization in this day in age when you have to accept the fact that you must bring in a young player each and every season in order to have any real expectation of a franchise that won't hit a direct cycle of winning and eventually bottom feeding to rebuld. In order to truly be competetive for a long period of time you must be able to replace and identify assests fairly early on thus being able to refill the talent pool in the system.

I understand that the Blues are looking to create a talented minor league team that better enables development of talent in the lower levels while acheiving a habit of winning throughout the organization. that is smart business. But we are not there yet. It must be balanced with reasonable expectation that it is harder to appease European players as they will have less patience in the minors unless you can allow them some creature comforts that are better than those they'd find in their home countries or in Russia.

There needs, must be a solution to these problems. There is no reason why a player like Chris Porter should still be stuck in Peoria when he's an upgrade of a couple of current roster players. Why haven't the Blues attempted to explore Jundland at a forward spot if they haven't given him more than a game to establish himself in the NHL. One game was ridiculous. You have to account for nervousness and the pyche of a young player. I think the Blues may have ruined a surprisingly good player like Wagner by Andy Murray's treatment of him the same way Berglund has looked.

This is poor identification of asset appreciation in my opinion. It also is creating a stagnet atomosphere on the roster where in not everyone is held to the same standard. The standard appears to be quick changes and not making mistakes. Mistakes will happen. The question is identifying the risk reward decision making proces versus just bad play. Also since day one, Murray's teams have played the third period often times flat-footed and have given up late goals throughout his tenure. I recall even hearing Bernie Federko remark on a certain game against Calgary a couple of seasons that had the feeling of being a season changer when in the first period his team began defending a one goal lead on the road and playing for not giving up a goal rather then continuing to forecheck and bring it to the Flames the way they were before scoring. Initially it looked as if they were dominant. Then quickly they were playing on their heels and lost momentum late in the period. But of course Murray doesn't believe in momentum but despite true match ups won't play players that were sitting in agame during a win no matter how dominant they may play a particular team or how poorly.

Murray is great at identifying how another team seeks to play and their various patterns. But he'll design hisd game plan focussing entirely on how to disrupt the oppossing team's style and except for last year's work on the power play, merely had his team play against the strengthes mostly through match ups rather than figuring out the patterns and strengthes of his own team and how to successfully implement them in order to acheive success. That is one of his greatest downfalls.

To reiterate, Three aspects of Murray's game leads to him being an unsuccessful coach in the NHL, They are:

1)His inabilty to allow true growth and support of young players. Rather than playing towards their individual strengthes and ability to sometimes make mistakes they begin to play fearful of making mistakes.

2) His unjust ways of treating players, what is okay for some players is not okay ofr others. In other words, it is not a set standard for the players on a TEAM.

3) His inability to coach his team to their strengthes and abilities but rather coaching to disrupting the other teams' strengthes and abilities.

There is of course a few more things in my opinion that are highly more succesful when coaching highschool players but falters when you start to coach a higher and higher level of play and talent.


3 pages, 1,111 words, I give it a b-, decent ideas could use a better conclusion

- S Kaspar Rollins



Good god almighty....


That's why I can't bring myself to post in the Blues or Blackhawks threads anymore. I would love to post in there and see some ideas, but I really don't want to dedicate that much time to reading a freaking novel...
the_cause2000
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not quite my tempo
Joined: 02.26.2007

Dec 17 @ 12:21 AM ET
UGH.

Earlier today I wrote the following:

"Finally. Don't believe the BS rumors out there about the locker room and players screwing around with other player's wives etc. Trust me here. You all know I would report it if it were true, but I am reporting that these are not true."

I left out the word NOT in the final sentence. I meant to write that I would NOT report on something like this were it true, but the fact that I was reporting on it at all should be a clear indication as to how untrue these rumors are. My policy has ALWAYS been, and will continue to be NEVER to report on personal lives of players. I feel that this is the most important truth in my fiber, so you know. That is what I feel. I am so sorry for not catching this mistake earlier. I honestly was not even reading the comments with all that has been going on.

please accept my apologies for this mistake.

- Eklund



Ugh!
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Dec 17 @ 11:17 PM ET
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Dec 18 @ 2:18 AM ET
And on the happiness side, the club seats (Ice Bar and Fire Lounge) are excellent. Really good food, both catered type stuff and regular arena junk food. They make no attempt to limit your intake (some places make it hard to avail yourself of the all you can eat, not this place). I'd love to have their chicken fingers--hot, crispy, not dried out--instead of the pathetic cold, chewy abomination that is Chickie's and Pete's--at the Vault.

And I think I got some good shots of the boys. Although I'm not digital, so I won't know for sure until Tuesday.

--bodiva88

- watsonnostaw


awesomerino
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 08.18.2006

Dec 20 @ 1:53 PM ET
African_fanatic is real

African_connection is Awesomerino

- Crimsoninja


A_C is actually a combination of myself, Yan, and Braidan.
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Dec 20 @ 11:21 PM ET
A_C is actually a combination of myself, Yan, and Braidan.
- awesomerino


racist~!
Quaggs
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Quahog , RI
Joined: 07.07.2009

Dec 21 @ 10:59 AM ET
Every second post in any of Strickland's threads are long enough to be epic posts for some reason. But this guy literally wrote a thesis on Andy Murray:

Historically they've fired coaches(different owners and what not), before a big night. So I was hoping.

Here's more of what I've been getting at at how to properly treat young players with large amounts of talent. Notice the acceptance of Ruff's expectation that the player will suffer some set backs he has to work through. http://sports.espn.go.com...=lebrun_pierre&id=4727686

Like last year's treatment of Stamkos, who incidently I completely under-rated(thus far),(I thought he'd take just a tad longer to develop and would peak at a thrity goal scorer who might hit a couple of seasons of forty but not much more than a point per game player). What I'm getting at here is that you can see a connection with players that have the talents to play in the NHL, might be lacking a few things that'd necessarily make then completely dominant at this level but mostly they are brought along by encourgement and allowing them to grow like any human activity by making mistakes and encourgement and support while doing so, before placing lofty expectations from them. Some will gain ground quickly others might take some more time, but that time will dramatically decrease when given the chance.

Eller can play in the NHL and should. I think Junland could as well. There are ways to be creative. For instance would if you had both Jundland and Petro on your roster and didn't play either of them every night but had a coach who dealt specifically with them in their preperations for the games they are scheduled for and how to actively watch games combined with an outstanding off-ice regiment. Why must me always think in the box or feel the need to imitate an albeit highly successful program in Detriot? i think Detriot had an excellent system but that secret's out and the game has changed to the point where now teams draft more for talent than the size they once coveted over talent thus over these last few years lessening Detriot's ability to find these gems so late in the draft. Now it has more to do with identifying needs and balancing it on drafting talent with a character type in mind that has the greatest potential to work hard and make it against the normal odds.

I bring this all up to make it perfectly clear that it is my thesis that Andy Murray is detrimental to any organization in this day in age when you have to accept the fact that you must bring in a young player each and every season in order to have any real expectation of a franchise that won't hit a direct cycle of winning and eventually bottom feeding to rebuld. In order to truly be competetive for a long period of time you must be able to replace and identify assests fairly early on thus being able to refill the talent pool in the system.

I understand that the Blues are looking to create a talented minor league team that better enables development of talent in the lower levels while acheiving a habit of winning throughout the organization. that is smart business. But we are not there yet. It must be balanced with reasonable expectation that it is harder to appease European players as they will have less patience in the minors unless you can allow them some creature comforts that are better than those they'd find in their home countries or in Russia.

There needs, must be a solution to these problems. There is no reason why a player like Chris Porter should still be stuck in Peoria when he's an upgrade of a couple of current roster players. Why haven't the Blues attempted to explore Jundland at a forward spot if they haven't given him more than a game to establish himself in the NHL. One game was ridiculous. You have to account for nervousness and the pyche of a young player. I think the Blues may have ruined a surprisingly good player like Wagner by Andy Murray's treatment of him the same way Berglund has looked.

This is poor identification of asset appreciation in my opinion. It also is creating a stagnet atomosphere on the roster where in not everyone is held to the same standard. The standard appears to be quick changes and not making mistakes. Mistakes will happen. The question is identifying the risk reward decision making proces versus just bad play. Also since day one, Murray's teams have played the third period often times flat-footed and have given up late goals throughout his tenure. I recall even hearing Bernie Federko remark on a certain game against Calgary a couple of seasons that had the feeling of being a season changer when in the first period his team began defending a one goal lead on the road and playing for not giving up a goal rather then continuing to forecheck and bring it to the Flames the way they were before scoring. Initially it looked as if they were dominant. Then quickly they were playing on their heels and lost momentum late in the period. But of course Murray doesn't believe in momentum but despite true match ups won't play players that were sitting in agame during a win no matter how dominant they may play a particular team or how poorly.

Murray is great at identifying how another team seeks to play and their various patterns. But he'll design hisd game plan focussing entirely on how to disrupt the oppossing team's style and except for last year's work on the power play, merely had his team play against the strengthes mostly through match ups rather than figuring out the patterns and strengthes of his own team and how to successfully implement them in order to acheive success. That is one of his greatest downfalls.

To reiterate, Three aspects of Murray's game leads to him being an unsuccessful coach in the NHL, They are:

1)His inabilty to allow true growth and support of young players. Rather than playing towards their individual strengthes and ability to sometimes make mistakes they begin to play fearful of making mistakes.

2) His unjust ways of treating players, what is okay for some players is not okay ofr others. In other words, it is not a set standard for the players on a TEAM.

3) His inability to coach his team to their strengthes and abilities but rather coaching to disrupting the other teams' strengthes and abilities.

There is of course a few more things in my opinion that are highly more succesful when coaching highschool players but falters when you start to coach a higher and higher level of play and talent.


3 pages, 1,111 words, I give it a b-, decent ideas could use a better conclusion

- S Kaspar Rollins

That guy has WAY to much time on his hands.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Dec 22 @ 6:58 PM ET
Every second post in any of Strickland's threads are long enough to be epic posts for some reason. But this guy literally wrote a thesis on Andy Murray:

Historically they've fired coaches(different owners and what not), before a big night. So I was hoping.

Here's more of what I've been getting at at how to properly treat young players with large amounts of talent. Notice the acceptance of Ruff's expectation that the player will suffer some set backs he has to work through. http://sports.espn.go.com...=lebrun_pierre&id=4727686

Like last year's treatment of Stamkos, who incidently I completely under-rated(thus far),(I thought he'd take just a tad longer to develop and would peak at a thrity goal scorer who might hit a couple of seasons of forty but not much more than a point per game player). What I'm getting at here is that you can see a connection with players that have the talents to play in the NHL, might be lacking a few things that'd necessarily make then completely dominant at this level but mostly they are brought along by encourgement and allowing them to grow like any human activity by making mistakes and encourgement and support while doing so, before placing lofty expectations from them. Some will gain ground quickly others might take some more time, but that time will dramatically decrease when given the chance.

Eller can play in the NHL and should. I think Junland could as well. There are ways to be creative. For instance would if you had both Jundland and Petro on your roster and didn't play either of them every night but had a coach who dealt specifically with them in their preperations for the games they are scheduled for and how to actively watch games combined with an outstanding off-ice regiment. Why must me always think in the box or feel the need to imitate an albeit highly successful program in Detriot? i think Detriot had an excellent system but that secret's out and the game has changed to the point where now teams draft more for talent than the size they once coveted over talent thus over these last few years lessening Detriot's ability to find these gems so late in the draft. Now it has more to do with identifying needs and balancing it on drafting talent with a character type in mind that has the greatest potential to work hard and make it against the normal odds.

I bring this all up to make it perfectly clear that it is my thesis that Andy Murray is detrimental to any organization in this day in age when you have to accept the fact that you must bring in a young player each and every season in order to have any real expectation of a franchise that won't hit a direct cycle of winning and eventually bottom feeding to rebuld. In order to truly be competetive for a long period of time you must be able to replace and identify assests fairly early on thus being able to refill the talent pool in the system.

I understand that the Blues are looking to create a talented minor league team that better enables development of talent in the lower levels while acheiving a habit of winning throughout the organization. that is smart business. But we are not there yet. It must be balanced with reasonable expectation that it is harder to appease European players as they will have less patience in the minors unless you can allow them some creature comforts that are better than those they'd find in their home countries or in Russia.

There needs, must be a solution to these problems. There is no reason why a player like Chris Porter should still be stuck in Peoria when he's an upgrade of a couple of current roster players. Why haven't the Blues attempted to explore Jundland at a forward spot if they haven't given him more than a game to establish himself in the NHL. One game was ridiculous. You have to account for nervousness and the pyche of a young player. I think the Blues may have ruined a surprisingly good player like Wagner by Andy Murray's treatment of him the same way Berglund has looked.

This is poor identification of asset appreciation in my opinion. It also is creating a stagnet atomosphere on the roster where in not everyone is held to the same standard. The standard appears to be quick changes and not making mistakes. Mistakes will happen. The question is identifying the risk reward decision making proces versus just bad play. Also since day one, Murray's teams have played the third period often times flat-footed and have given up late goals throughout his tenure. I recall even hearing Bernie Federko remark on a certain game against Calgary a couple of seasons that had the feeling of being a season changer when in the first period his team began defending a one goal lead on the road and playing for not giving up a goal rather then continuing to forecheck and bring it to the Flames the way they were before scoring. Initially it looked as if they were dominant. Then quickly they were playing on their heels and lost momentum late in the period. But of course Murray doesn't believe in momentum but despite true match ups won't play players that were sitting in agame during a win no matter how dominant they may play a particular team or how poorly.

Murray is great at identifying how another team seeks to play and their various patterns. But he'll design hisd game plan focussing entirely on how to disrupt the oppossing team's style and except for last year's work on the power play, merely had his team play against the strengthes mostly through match ups rather than figuring out the patterns and strengthes of his own team and how to successfully implement them in order to acheive success. That is one of his greatest downfalls.

To reiterate, Three aspects of Murray's game leads to him being an unsuccessful coach in the NHL, They are:

1)His inabilty to allow true growth and support of young players. Rather than playing towards their individual strengthes and ability to sometimes make mistakes they begin to play fearful of making mistakes.

2) His unjust ways of treating players, what is okay for some players is not okay ofr others. In other words, it is not a set standard for the players on a TEAM.

3) His inability to coach his team to their strengthes and abilities but rather coaching to disrupting the other teams' strengthes and abilities.

There is of course a few more things in my opinion that are highly more succesful when coaching highschool players but falters when you start to coach a higher and higher level of play and talent.


3 pages, 1,111 words, I give it a b-, decent ideas could use a better conclusion

- S Kaspar Rollins

b-? really?

atrocious grammar, no way it gets more than a c-
S Kaspar Rollins
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Dec 22 @ 7:10 PM ET
b-? really?

atrocious grammar, no way it gets more than a c-

- Feeling Glucky?


eh i didn't actually read the whole thing
Feeling Glucky?
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Dec 22 @ 7:11 PM ET
eh i didn't actually read the whole thing
- S Kaspar Rollins

neither did I, just skimmed.


and it was awful.
Shutdown
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Dec 23 @ 3:29 PM ET
Eklund's contributions to his thread today:

Who freakin' cares about stupid stuff like this?
Get a real job.
- bcallaway
really? What have I done to deserve such anger? give me your number I want to call you and find out why you hate me so much? anyone who wants to take it up with me man to man seriously email your phone number that you can be reached this afternoon to [email][email protected][/email]. Put "want a call" in the subject.
What is so terrible about me putting in the work to put this kind of blog up two days before christmas?
- Eklund



A journalist is someone who graduates from college with a degree in journalism. Journalists typically work for companies, not themselves. You're a blogger.
- TwoPieceFeed
degree In journalism. Check
work for a company other than my own? Harder to find one in biz these days. But I have been and continue to work for several other outlets. I have worked for Xm and sportsnet in canada, Comcast sportsnet and versus in the us... Many journalists are out of jobs which sucks
also last I checked it's hard to find a traditional journalist who isn't blogging
- Eklund


Bashing people doing what they would love to do lifts their spirits. Listen, I admit I am incredibly lucky to have gotten to where I am and I have no doubt that any number of you could so my job as well or better than I so. Go do it. Man up and make something of yourself instead of finding your fame as a basher on a hoxkey website. It is easy to destroy. Hard to build
- Eklund
jarmstrong
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Look's like Ek's been hitting the internet weight room.

good to see he is still keepin' it real with the bad spelling though.
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Dec 23 @ 4:46 PM ET
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Journalists generally know grammar.
watsonnostaw
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Dec 23 @ 5:00 PM ET
Journalists generally know grammar.
- Vagitarian



racist~!
Shutdown
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Dec 23 @ 5:03 PM ET
Journalists generally know grammar.
- Vagitarian

It takes strong willpower to completely ignore the spellchecker that comes with your (frank)ing web browser.
ryan78
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Dec 23 @ 5:07 PM ET
Journalists generally know grammar.
- Vagitarian

Didn't your friend get banned for giving his number to Ek?
Vagitarian
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Dec 23 @ 5:11 PM ET
Didn't your friend get banned for giving his number to Ek?
- ryan78


Yeah. That damn guy.
schuter82
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Dec 23 @ 5:15 PM ET
Look's like Ek's been hitting the internet weight room.

good to see he is still keepin' it real with the bad spelling though.

- jarmstrong

One can't help but chuckle at the word hoxkey.
Crimsoninja
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Dec 23 @ 5:21 PM ET
It takes strong willpower to completely ignore the spellchecker that comes with your (frank)ing web browser.
- Shutdown

davies
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Dec 23 @ 5:31 PM ET
It takes strong willpower to completely ignore the spellchecker that comes with your (frank)ing web browser.
- Shutdown



if that spellchecker wanted to make it's own site and do what he does instead of trying to always bring him down it would all be okay
PredsFan95
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Dec 23 @ 5:36 PM ET
if that spellchecker wanted to make it's own site and do what he does instead of trying to always bring him down it would all be okay
- davies



i bet the spellchecker would shake crims hand too
davies
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Dec 23 @ 5:38 PM ET
i bet the spellchecker would shake crims hand too
- PredsFan95

excellent point
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