You've proven nothing that repudiates what I've been saying all along.

- Doppleganger

I actually don't care, but do you really think a quote from another Sens fan on another site really stands as solid evidence that what you say is true?

You've proven nothing that repudiates what I've been saying all along.

- Senators and Canadiens struck a reciprocal rights deal to allow each others mid week games to be broadcast into each others markets starting with the 1992-93 season.

-Canadiens mid week are still allowed in the Ottawa market

- Senators approached the leafs with the same reciprocal rights deal, and the leafs refused, and that's when mid week leaf game were no longer available on tv, in the Eastern Ontario market

-leaf midweek games AND leafsTV still not available in Ottawa market.

the leaf mid week games back before the 1992 93 season used to be carried on Global............I know I saw them with my own eyes, can't see them now as they're not available.


These are the facts, and if you lived here, Ottawa, you would probably know this. Anyone else here in the Nations Capital can tell you the same thing.


- Doppleganger

Oh ok.... So quotes from a newspaper saying the league prohibits teams from selling their broadcasting rights outside their region isn't enough factual evidence, but sens fans on some Internet forum saying it happened is proof?

You've proven nothing that repudiates what I've been saying all along.

- Senators and Canadiens struck a reciprocal rights deal to allow each others mid week games to be broadcast into each others markets starting with the 1992-93 season.

-Canadiens mid week are still allowed in the Ottawa market

- Senators approached the leafs with the same reciprocal rights deal, and the leafs refused, and that's when mid week leaf game were no longer available on tv, in the Eastern Ontario market

-leaf midweek games AND leafsTV still not available in Ottawa market.

the leaf mid week games back before the 1992 93 season used to be carried on Global............I know I saw them with my own eyes, can't see them now as they're not available.


These are the facts, and if you lived here, Ottawa, you would probably know this. Anyone else here in the Nations Capital can tell you the same thing.


- Doppleganger

Because global isn't broadcaster anymore? Because the nhl says that Ottawa is the sens region and thus Ottawa is broadcast there?

I actually don't care, but do you really think a quote from another Sens fan on another site really stands as solid evidence that what you say is true?
- prock

I know it's true, because it is.

For example, tonight I had the choice of watching either the Senators home opener, or the Canadiens home opener, as both were being broadcast in Ottawa Market on the same night at the same time.

Because global isn't broadcaster anymore? Because the nhl says that Ottawa is the sens region and thus Ottawa is broadcast there?
- burn

Because the leafs did not want to have Senator games, back in 1992-93 broadcast in toronto and their market.

Global continued to broadcast the leaf games in toronto, and were blacked out in Ottawa, and have been ever since. leafsTV is not available here either, from what I've been told by leaf fans.

It's like talking to a brick wall

I know it's true, because it is.

For example, tonight I had the choice of watching either the Senators home opener, or the Canadiens home opener, as both were being broadcast in Ottawa Market on the same night at the same time.
- Doppleganger

And a random sens fan quote (likely dumb as rocks going by demographics) is proof?

Because the leafs did not want to have Senator games, back in 1992-93 broadcast in toronto and their market.

Global continued to broadcast the leaf games in toronto, and were blacked out in Ottawa, and have been ever since. leafsTV is not available here either, from what I've been told by leaf fans.

It's like talking to a brick wall

- Doppleganger

What point are you trying to make?

And a random sens fan quote (likely dumb as rocks going by demographics) is proof?
- prock

Since 1992-93 there have been regional broadcasts of leaf games that only reach as far east as Kingston and Peterborough. Past that they're blacked out. Prior to the 1992-93 season those games were seen in all of Ontario.

Why is that?

Montreal games are still carried in Eastern Ontario, just like they were prior to 1992-93,

Why is that?

I know people like you, who can only see as far as the boundaries of the GTA, don't understand that there is more to Ontario and Canada, and regional (mid week) leaf games are only seen in the part of Ontario west of Kingston and Peterborough.

Why is that?

I know it's true, because it is.

For example, tonight I had the choice of watching either the Senators home opener, or the Canadiens home opener, as both were being broadcast in Ottawa Market on the same night at the same time.
- Doppleganger

I watched the MTL game to (some of it) as it was on NATIONALLY.

Next.

Darren Dreger: "The asking price for Eric Staal would be enormous. The leafs and Hurricanes have talked in the past. Would cost them a first round pick, either Tyler Bozak or Nazem Kadri and likely Jake Gardiner."

Because the leafs did not want to have Senator games, back in 1992-93 broadcast in toronto and their market.

Global continued to broadcast the leaf games in toronto, and were blacked out in Ottawa, and have been ever since. leafsTV is not available here either, from what I've been told by leaf fans.

It's like talking to a brick wall

- Doppleganger

Because it's league mandated you dolt. I've posted articles proving it.


The NHL has prevented its teams from selling their TV rights outside of teh local markets since 1985 according to Rick Westhead.



http://www.cbssports.com/...e-case-heard-after-ruling

Brick wall indeed.

I watched the MTL game to (some of it) as it was on NATIONALLY.

Next.
- burn

Would have been blacked out if the leafs were playing.

Would have been blacked out if the leafs were playing.

- Doppleganger

No it wouldn't. That's not how blackouts work It was National game.

Because it's league mandated you dolt. I've posted articles proving it.


The NHL has prevented its teams from selling their TV rights outside of teh local markets since 1985 according to Rick Westhead.



http://www.cbssports.com/...e-case-heard-after-ruling

Brick wall indeed.
- burn

Because the leafs refused to allow Senator games into what is now the leafs regional broadcast area.

You are pretty freaking dense aren't you?

one last time, at the brick wall..........

-----------prior to 1992-93 leaf regional games encompassed ALL of Ontario.

-----------When the leafs refused to allow Senator games into all of Ontario, the NHL then divided Ontario into two regions (leafs & Senators)

----------Since then leafs games are blacked out in Eastern Ontario, and Senator games are blacked out in Southern Ontario

Nationally televised game are not blacked out.

What point are you trying to make?
- prock

That he's utterly clueless.

Since 1992-93 there have been regional broadcasts of leaf games that only reach as far east as Kingston and Peterborough. Past that they're blacked out. Prior to the 1992-93 season those games were seen in all of Ontario.

Why is that?

Montreal games are still carried in Eastern Ontario, just like they were prior to 1992-93,

Why is that?

I know people like you, who can only see as far as the boundaries of the GTA, don't understand that there is more to Ontario and Canada, and regional (mid week) leaf games are only seen in the part of Ontario west of Kingston and Peterborough.

Why is that?
- Doppleganger

Because the League says so. They make the boundaries. How are you not getting this?

Because the leafs refused to allow Senator games into what is now the leafs regional broadcast area.

You are pretty freaking dense aren't you?

one last time, at the brick wall..........

-----------prior to 1992-93 leaf regional games encompassed ALL of Ontario.

-----------When the leafs refused to allow Senator games into all of Ontario, the NHL then divided Ontario into two regions (leafs & Senators)

----------Since then leafs games are blacked out in Eastern Ontario, and Senator games are blacked out in Southern Ontario

Nationally televised game are not blacked out.
- Doppleganger

The NHL has prevented its teams from selling their TV rights outside of teh local markets since 1985 according to Rick Westhead.




Brick wall.

Because the leafs refused to allow Senator games into what is now the leafs regional broadcast area.

You are pretty freaking dense aren't you?

one last time, at the brick wall..........

-----------prior to 1992-93 leaf regional games encompassed ALL of Ontario.

-----------When the leafs refused to allow Senator games into all of Ontario, the NHL then divided Ontario into two regions (leafs & Senators)

----------Since then leafs games are blacked out in Eastern Ontario, and Senator games are blacked out in Southern Ontario

Nationally televised game are not blacked out.





- Doppleganger

Nope.

The NHL has prevented its teams from selling their TV rights outside of teh local markets since 1985 according to Rick Westhead.




Brick wall.
- burn

Hey DOUGH HEAD the leafs market then included all of Ontario, and when the Senators returned to the NHL, and the leafs did NOT want to share all of Ontario, the NHL then divided into two regions

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- Doppleganger

This is fitting..... clear sign of white flag here. Cannot prove your fantasy, so move on to childish nonsense.


You want to be taken seriously?? Try using facts.... and don't bother ignoring other facts presented.



Fact is the League said "The NHL has prevented its teams from selling their TV rights outside of teh local markets since 1985". The League created the boundaries. Youve provided zero evidence to support your lunacy.

Hey DOUGH HEAD the leafs market then included all of Ontario, and when the Senators returned to the NHL, and the leafs did NOT want to share all of Ontario, the NHL then divided into two regions


- Doppleganger

Surprise surprise surprise. The Leafs region included ALL of Ontario when they were the ONLY Ontario team, but now that there are 2 teams in Ontario the Leafs aren't shown regionally in all of Ontario?? Im shocked! How could this possibly Happen?? OH wait, the NHL created boundaries for each teams broadcast.

I watched the MTL game to (some of it) as it was on NATIONALLY.

Next.
- burn

If you purchased NHL centre ice, yes you did. But you did not see it on RDS on regular cable.



FROM RDS

We have noted your inquiry regarding the interrupted signal affecting the broadcast of the Montreal Canadiens’ games on RDSfor viewers situated outside the team’s designated broadcast region.

RDS is no longer an NHL national rights holder – our new regional rights agreement with both the Habs + Sens limits us to their identified regional markets .

Of course, RDS wishes to offer the best service to all its subscribers, however, we have to respect the broadcast zone linked to the regional rigths granted by the NHL.

You reside in a market outside of this geographic area If you are receiving a message that the games are not available

These game black-outs are an NHL requirement which we must comply with and the black-out applies to all TV service providers in your market .

Anyone wanting to know more about the reasons why we must black out should be invited to contact the NHL

We are sorry for the inconvenience caused by this situation and we thank you for your understanding.



NOTICE that the Canadiens "region" includes Eastern Ontario. This is becasue of the reciprocal deal that I've been talking about, between the Senators and Canadiens, that allow Senator regional games into the Montreal region too.

I've tried my best, but if you can't figure this out by now, you never will.

If you purchased NHL centre ice, yes you did. But you did not see it on RDS on regular cable.



FROM RDS

We have noted your inquiry regarding the interrupted signal affecting the broadcast of the Montreal Canadiens’ games on RDSfor viewers situated outside the team’s designated broadcast region.

RDS is no longer an NHL national rights holder – our new regional rights agreement with both the Habs + Sens limits us to their identified regional markets .

Of course, RDS wishes to offer the best service to all its subscribers, however, we have to respect the broadcast zone linked to the regional rigths granted by the NHL.

You reside in a market outside of this geographic area If you are receiving a message that the games are not available

These game black-outs are an NHL requirement which we must comply with and the black-out applies to all TV service providers in your market .

Anyone wanting to know more about the reasons why we must black out should be invited to contact the NHL

We are sorry for the inconvenience caused by this situation and we thank you for your understanding.



NOTICE that the Canadiens "region" includes Eastern Ontario. This is becasue of the reciprocal deal that I've been talking about, between the Senators and Canadiens, that allow Senator regional games into the Montreal region too.

I've tried my best, but if you can't figure this out by now, you never will.
- Doppleganger

It was on Sportsnet360 Nationally.

Get a (frank)ing clue.

It was on Sportsnet360 Nationally.

Get a (frank)ing clue.
- burn

I don't know how many times I've said the regional games are not available out of market.

I think you have a comprehension problem.

Am I susposed to be surprised when the odd game is broadcast Nationally.

There is no freaking way you, sitting in toronto, are going to receive ALL 82 Montreal games..............unless you've bought NHLCI.

Here in Ottawa we get ALL 82 Montreal games, both the National and the regional, because of the reciprocal deal Ottawa and Montreal have had for years now that cover regional games in each others markets.


What a freaking dough head you are.