Do you have the faith that Shanahan, with zero management experience (before hired by leafs), zero scouting experience is the guy that's going to see this through???

JFJ tried to do it, and veered off course and so did Burke, and he too did not follow though with his stated plan.
- Doppleganger

What does this matter?? I think it's more important that the guys that are scouting and such are good at scouting. What on earth does shanny not having scouting experience have anything to do with anything??

And to the 2nd point, neither one of the mentioned GM said they were doing a teardown rebuild, and the ownership at the time had said no to the idea. Burke out and out said he'd never do that, and JFJ said that's what he wanted to do, but was rebuffed by management.

I think you're out to lunch as usual here.

Both of those GMs said that'r what they were going to do.................but did not.

Did I even mention Dubas or Hunter? So either of them have any NHL scouting experience?
- Doppleganger

false.

Burke made it clear from the start ownership wanted a quick retool.

Both of those GMs said that'r what they were going to do.................but did not.

Did I even mention Dubas or Hunter? So either of them have any NHL scouting experience?
- Doppleganger

Neither did, so, you're wrong. And insisting on showing it.

Neither have NHL experience, but have plenty of knowledge about the players in the next few drafts.

Zibby is a -3 so far tonight.

Bust?

Zibby is a -3 so far tonight.

Bust?
- Feeling Glucky?

Still a -3, despite the senators rallying to get a meaningless point.

Still a -3, despite the senators rallying to get a meaningless point.
- Feeling Glucky?

Zibanejad is a minus three, on the season. Bozak is a minus sixteen on the season, and Kadri is a minus five on the season.


So whats your point?

Zibanejad is a minus three, on the season. Bozak is a minus sixteen on the season, and Kadri is a minus five on the season.


So whats your point?
- Doppleganger

You're the one who cares about +/-

I just wanted to see your reaction when it's used against one of your team's players... And it's what I expected

You're the one who cares about +/-

I just wanted to see your reaction when it's used against one of your team's players... And it's what I expected
- Feeling Glucky?

What's karlsson at? How far negative?

Worst defenseman in his own zone in the entire league.

What's karlsson at? How far negative?

Worst defenseman in his own zone in the entire league.
- prock

how's your 8 million dollar 3rd liner doing? since 2015 rolled around, what does he have, like 4 pts and is something like a -14.

how's your 8 million dollar 3rd liner doing? since 2015 rolled around, what does he have, like 4 pts and is something like a -14.
- sensarmy_11

So our third liner would be your leading scorer?

Speaks volumes.

So our third liner would be your leading scorer?

Speaks volumes.
- prock

awwwwwwwwww, someone sounds bitter this morning. did you wake up and FINALLY realize that you cheer for the biggest joke franchise in all of sports.

awwwwwwwwww, someone sounds bitter this morning. did you wake up and FINALLY realize that you cheer for the biggest joke franchise in all of sports.
- sensarmy_11

I'm actually hung over like a beeatch. But let's get real, the sens are a far, far, far bigger joke.

No cups, ever
Terrible team
Terrible group of prospects. No hope.
Can happy city that no one wants to play for
Two consecutive captains couldn't stand it anymore and left
No budget
No fans, can't even fill their building. No one cares.
Embarrassing owner that does things like calls forensic investigators. And has a spartan introduce the team.
Gets mad that neighboring teams outnumber them in their own building
Incapable of winning a playoff series against the team they try to make fun but of.


Seriously, it might be best for the league to just fold the sens.

The funny part of this convo is that our ex third liner actually IS one of your leading scorers.

I'm actually hung over like a beeatch. But let's get real, the sens are a far, far, far bigger joke.

No cups, ever
Terrible team
Terrible group of prospects. No hope.
Can happy city that no one wants to play for
Two consecutive captains couldn't stand it anymore and left
No budget
No fans, can't even fill their building. No one cares.
Embarrassing owner that does things like calls forensic investigators. And has a spartan introduce the team.
Gets mad that neighboring teams outnumber them in their own building
Incapable of winning a playoff series against the team they try to make fun but of.


Seriously, it might be best for the league to just fold the sens.

The funny part of this convo is that our ex third liner actually IS one of your leading scorers.
- prock

poor prock....soooo sad

I'm actually hung over like a beeatch. But let's get real, the sens are a far, far, far bigger joke.

No cups, ever
Terrible team
Terrible group of prospects. No hope.
Can happy city that no one wants to play for
Two consecutive captains couldn't stand it anymore and left
No budget
No fans, can't even fill their building. No one cares.
Embarrassing owner that does things like calls forensic investigators. And has a spartan introduce the team.
Gets mad that neighboring teams outnumber them in their own building
Incapable of winning a playoff series against the team they try to make fun but

Seriously, it might be best for the league to just fold the sens.

The funny part of this convo is that our ex third liner actually IS one of your leading scorers.
- prock

Never have the Leafs been in worse shape than they are this morning. So, you like many blue and white Kool aid drinkers believe you can ease your pain by pointing fingers at others. Your emotional pain must be severe.

Never have the Leafs been in worse shape than they are this morning. So, you like many blue and white Kool aid drinkers believe you can ease your pain by pointing fingers at others. Your emotional pain must be severe.
- spatso

the leafs have never been in better shape.
this season could turn out to be one of the most important ever. Thats great news

- Doppleganger

Steve Warne™ ‏@TSNSteve
Kypreos takes run at Sens ancient banners. Says Messier once insisted they go out because they had just beaten the 1927 Stanley Cup Champs.

the leafs have never been in better shape.
this season could turn out to be one of the most important ever. Thats great news
- senstroll

Please explain.

Please explain.
- Doppleganger

the leafs will be looking to move some or all of these players for futures between now and the Draft

Kessel
Phaneuf
Franson
winnink
Santo
Bozak
Lupul
Robidas
Holzer
Reimer

the leafs will be looking to move some or all of these players for futures between now and the Draft

Kessel
Phaneuf
Franson
winnink
Santo
Bozak
Lupul
Robidas
Holzer
Reimer
- senstroll

GIGO

GIGO
- spatso

the sens?

the sens?
- senstroll

So comical. The sens ice crap lime kyle turris and bobby Ryan, and call one dimensional players like karlsson stars, and then are critical of kessel, jvr, phaneuf, etc.

They don't seem to realize their roster is total junk.

So comical. The sens ice crap lime kyle turris and bobby Ryan, and call one dimensional players like karlsson stars, and then are critical of kessel, jvr, phaneuf, etc.

They don't seem to realize their roster is total junk.
- prock

And yet they've been the better team in Ontario for at least the past decade.

So the leafs roster is the junk that junk throws out during spring cleaning.

So comical. The sens ice crap lime kyle turris and bobby Ryan, and call one dimensional players like karlsson stars, and then are critical of kessel, jvr, phaneuf, etc.

They don't seem to realize their roster is total junk.
- prock

How bad is it when a roster of total junk is currently better than your team and has been doe the last 10 years. Ryan is junk but is only a hand full of points back of jvr and less than 10 points back of the superstar kessel.