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- NJFlyersFan

You said so yourself.

Stevie Y is making all the right moves so far so it seems, so I wouldnt be suprised.

I like what he's done with that team in the short amount of time he's had so far.
- Baxter27

I'm hoping this time next year we will look back and say the Meszeros move was a horrid move for Yzerman

To whom? Carter is a 40 goal scorer and younger then Leino.
- dingo8urbaby

Richards
JVR
Giroux
Coburn
Carle
Pronger
Leino
Briere
Mezzy
Zherdev

I'm hoping this time next year we will look back and say the Meszeros move was a horrid move for Yzerman
- Buts16

What the hell kind of name is Meszeros anyway?

Sounds Aztec or Mayan or something to me

I'm hoping this time next year we will look back and say the Meszeros move was a horrid move for Yzerman
- Buts16

sadly we'll watch Yzerman get the moon for gagne at the TDL

What the hell kind of name is Meszeros anyway?

Sounds Aztec or Mayan or something to me
- Crimsoninja

I think its Dutch.

Richards
JVR
Giroux
Coburn
Carle
Pronger
Leino
Briere
Mezzy
Zherdev
- NJFlyersFan

Okay, what point is being made here?

Leino hasn't played a full season in the NHL, and until he does, nobody is gonna have a really good feel of what he brings to the table. We've foundout that he can play under pressure and on a big stage but we don't know what sort of points he can put up in an 82 game schedule. Then a kid like Zherdev was forced out of the league already. Last, JvR still has alot of coming into his own to do. I most forgot about Meszaros, he needs a comeback season, which has yet to be seen.

Okay, what point is being made here?

Leino hasn't played a full season in the NHL, and until he does, nobody is gonna have a really good feel of what he brings to the table. We've foundout that he can play under pressure and on a big stage but we don't know what sort of points he can put up in an 82 game schedule. Then a kid like Zherdev was forced out of the league already. Last, JvR still has alot of coming into his own to do. I most forgot about Meszaros, he needs a comeback season, which has yet to be seen.
- dingo8urbaby

much better than the team with carter on it

What is your favorite color? Blue...no yellow. That's why I called it a guess. I agree that Leino is capable of being a top line player, and I am a fan of his, but I wouldn't dump Carter to keep him.
- Duran76[/img]

Let's say Carter has a year similar to this one, say, 34 goals and 32 assists. Leino has a very good year and puts up 38 goals and 43 assists. Carter asks for 6.5-7 million on a 5-7 year contract. Let's say Leino would take 4.5-5 on a 3-5 year.

Carter is RFA and can be traded/offer sheeted for top assets like 1st rd picks/top prospects...Leino, as a UFA can walk for nothing.

Who do you sign?

I'm hoping this time next year we will look back and say the Meszeros move was a horrid move for Yzerman
- Buts16

Hard to figure why Yzerman was so willing to move away from a young defenseman with talent, that's shown he can be a good player in this League.

Let's say Carter has a year similar to this one, say, 34 goals and 32 assists. Leino has a very good year and puts up 38 goals and 43 assists. Carter asks for 6.5-7 million on a 5-7 year contract. Let's say Leino would take 4.5-5 on a 3-5 year.

Carter is RFA and can be traded/offer sheeted for top assets like 1st rd picks/top prospects...Leino, as a UFA can walk for nothing.

Who do you sign?
- exlund

Leino

Hard to figure why Yzerman was so willing to move away from a young defenseman with talent, that's shown he can be a good player in this League.
- MJL

I think we can consider TB a small market team. Even without Meszy, they still have 3 defenseman being paid over $3.5 million on the cap. One would have to believe the internal budget of the team is not set at the ceiling of the salary cap.

I think we can consider TB a small market team. Even without Meszy, they still have 3 defenseman being paid over $3.5 million on the cap. One would have to believe the internal budget of the team is not set at the ceiling of the salary cap.
- Troxell88

Yea, finances is definitely one area you could speculate as being a reason.

I'm going to miss Asham, like that buggers game.

I can see him landing in Tampa, he'd be a perfect fit for the Bolts who are in need of both 3rd and 4th liners.
- Buts16

still kills me that we get Shelley instead of Asham

still kills me that we get Shelley instead of Asham
- nails

At the price we did as well

At the price we did as well
- dingo8urbaby

yeah, that as well

Let's say Carter has a year similar to this one, say, 34 goals and 32 assists. Leino has a very good year and puts up 38 goals and 43 assists. Carter asks for 6.5-7 million on a 5-7 year contract. Let's say Leino would take 4.5-5 on a 3-5 year.

Carter is RFA and can be traded/offer sheeted for top assets like 1st rd picks/top prospects...Leino, as a UFA can walk for nothing.

Who do you sign?
- exlund

None of this matters, we have the best player in the world centering Leino and Hartnell.

still kills me that we get Shelley instead of Asham
- nails

isn't shelley the exact same player as lappy? could lappy be thinking of retirement?

isn't shelley the exact same player as lappy? could lappy be thinking of retirement?
- 2Real

No not at all. Lappy is a 4th line penalty killer who can used in a defensive checking role in game situations. Shelly is a 4th line/enforcer.

No not at all. Lappy is a 4th line penalty killer who can used in a defensive checking role in game situations. Shelly is a 4th line/enforcer.
- MJL

Yeah. They aren't even clozse to me

Let's say Carter has a year similar to this one, say, 34 goals and 32 assists. Leino has a very good year and puts up 38 goals and 43 assists. Carter asks for 6.5-7 million on a 5-7 year contract. Let's say Leino would take 4.5-5 on a 3-5 year.

Carter is RFA and can be traded/offer sheeted for top assets like 1st rd picks/top prospects...Leino, as a UFA can walk for nothing.

Who do you sign?
- exlund

I'd be shocked if Leino had more then 60 points.

I think that's even high

Let's say Carter has a year similar to this one, say, 34 goals and 32 assists. Leino has a very good year and puts up 38 goals and 43 assists. Carter asks for 6.5-7 million on a 5-7 year contract. Let's say Leino would take 4.5-5 on a 3-5 year.

Carter is RFA and can be traded/offer sheeted for top assets like 1st rd picks/top prospects...Leino, as a UFA can walk for nothing.

Who do you sign?
- exlund

gagne as a UFA for 10years 60M to make up for trading him in the first place

To whom? Carter is a 40 goal scorer and younger then Leino.
- dingo8urbaby

Note to everyone: Carter is not a 40 goal scorer.

Scoring 40 goals in 1 year does not make you a 40 goal scorer. He is a 30 goal scorer at this point.

No not at all. Lappy is a 4th line penalty killer who can used in a defensive checking role in game situations. Shelly is a 4th line/enforcer.
- MJL

I've seen Shelley be tough as nails and block shots just like what Lappy does.