Well, that hardly seems fair.
- Double_A

Habs have the league in their pocket.

Habs have the league in their pocket.
- Cape Breton Bruins

45 to be fair.
- hscesq

51

maxi pad gets 3 games

maxi pad gets 3 games
- salvadorsanchez

Thought he'd get something, but 3 seems a bit harsh.

Thought he'd get something, but 3 seems a bit harsh.
- hscesq

it's a tough call and the rules have changed
i guess when you are as outspoken as he was you might be held to a slightly higher standard
it happens in a split second, ask chara

it's a tough call and the rules have changed
i guess when you are as outspoken as he was you might be held to a slightly higher standard
it happens in a split second, ask chara
- Toad in Nj

I'd like to think his comments after that incident had nothing to do with the punishment in this case. And I don't compare the two hits. I have no problem with him getting suspended here, despite the obvious lack of intent to injure. It's a hit that the game wants to eliminate. I just think 3 games is too many.

i thought it would have been 2 games
add the nose and you get the extra 1

i thought it would have been 2 games
add the nose and you get the extra 1
- Toad in Nj

Why isn't the nose included in the two?

Why isn't the nose included in the two?
- hscesq

without the nose he could have gone to the movies and not irritated those around him due to his breathing issues

I'd like to think his comments after that incident had nothing to do with the punishment in this case. And I don't compare the two hits. I have no problem with him getting suspended here, despite the obvious lack of intent to injure. It's a hit that the game wants to eliminate. I just think 3 games is too many.
- hscesq

I realize this is aside from your point, but:

Why is it that in this case there's an obvious lack of intent, when all we heard after the Chara incident was that intent was clear? (Note that I can't remember your stance on it - but in general it seemed like it was obvious to the standard Habs supporter that Z had ill intentions)

Given the intense and drawn out criticism that Chara, the Bruins, and their fans faced, its hard for us to separate these two incidents. Both were dangerous hits during the course of play, the difference being severity of the injuries. I see no less intent with Max going shoulder to chin on a vulnerable player than I do with Z riding Max out of the play. In fact I'd argue that Max's play seems like the more likely to cause serious damage.

Again, I realize that's not your point, but just trying to explain why discussing this incident on a Bruins thread is inevitably going to be related to the Chara hit.

without the nose he could have gone to the movies and not irritated those around him due to his breathing issues
- Toad in Nj

I never thought of that.

I realize this is aside from your point, but:

Why is it that in this case there's an obvious lack of intent, when all we heard after the Chara incident was that intent was clear? (Note that I can't remember your stance on it - but in general it seemed like it was obvious to the standard Habs supporter that Z had ill intentions)

Given the intense and drawn out criticism that Chara, the Bruins, and their fans faced, its hard for us to separate these two incidents. Both were dangerous hits during the course of play, the difference being severity of the injuries. I see no less intent with Max going shoulder to chin on a vulnerable player than I do with Z riding Max out of the play. In fact I'd argue that Max's play seems like the more likely to cause serious damage.

Again, I realize that's not your point, but just trying to explain why discussing this incident on a Bruins thread is inevitably going to be related to the Chara hit.
- Double_A

*has no reply. bans Double_A*

we are used to it
all of us should change our screen names to Toby

I realize this is aside from your point, but:

Why is it that in this case there's an obvious lack of intent, when all we heard after the Chara incident was that intent was clear? (Note that I can't remember your stance on it - but in general it seemed like it was obvious to the standard Habs supporter that Z had ill intentions)

Given the intense and drawn out criticism that Chara, the Bruins, and their fans faced, its hard for us to separate these two incidents. Both were dangerous hits during the course of play, the difference being severity of the injuries. I see no less intent with Max going shoulder to chin on a vulnerable player than I do with Z riding Max out of the play. In fact I'd argue that Max's play seems like the more likely to cause serious damage.

Again, I realize that's not your point, but just trying to explain why discussing this incident on a Bruins thread is inevitably going to be related to the Chara hit.
- Double_A

The simple truth is, you are B's fans and we are Habs fans and so despite what we'd like to think, we have a built in bias that cannot be discounted, nor should it be. I can look at the Chara hit and not think he intended the result, just as Patch didn't intend the result of his hit. The only issue there, was that the two players had a history, and I think that's why it blew up as it did. I mean, it would still have blown up, but not the same way.

we are used to it
all of us should change our screen names to Toby
- Toad in Nj

I don't get this one. Sorry.

The simple truth is, you are B's fans and we are Habs fans and so despite what we'd like to think, we have a built in bias that cannot be discounted, nor should it be. I can look at the Chara hit and not think he intended the result, just as Patch didn't intend the result of his hit. The only issue there, was that the two players had a history, and I think that's why it blew up as it did. I mean, it would still have blown up, but not the same way.
- hscesq

Totally agree.

Out of curiosity what do you think the reaction would have been if the Letang/Max ordeal had been Lucic on Pacioretty? Or Lucic on anyone for that matter. I suspect the hockey world (not just Habs fans) would be clamouring for his head on a platter.

Totally agree.

Out of curiosity what do you think the reaction would have been if the Letang/Max ordeal had been Lucic on Pacioretty? Or Lucic on anyone for that matter. I suspect the hockey world (not just Habs fans) would be clamouring for his head on a platter.
- Double_A

Lucic has a reputation, though I am not sure why. I mean, he's tough and he's good, so I guess that is why. But he really isn't dirty on a consistent basis. The hit on Miller comes to mind, but that one is open to interpretation IMO.
Bottom line - I hate Lucic.

Lucic has a reputation, though I am not sure why. I mean, he's tough and he's good, so I guess that is why. But he really isn't dirty on a consistent basis. The hit on Miller comes to mind, but that one is open to interpretation IMO.
Bottom line - I hate Lucic.
- hscesq

so you are just admitting in all of this that you wear habs colored glasses and they can do no wrong - regardless?

at least you can admit it

so you are just admitting in all of this that you wear habs colored glasses and they can do no wrong - regardless?

at least you can admit it

- salvadorsanchez

I don't see where I said that, no. But to an extent, I certainly do. It affects some more than others, of course.
Are you telling me you don't wear black and gold glasses?

Thought he'd get something, but 3 seems a bit harsh.
- hscesq

Of course you do

Bertuzzi for President

Of course you do

Bertuzzi for President
- JEFF SPICOLI

Another one I don't really understand.
I'll just assume you will tell me the Habs deserved it and we all wear red/white/blue glasses and we dive. Then, I'll move on.

I don't see where I said that, no. But to an extent, I certainly do. It affects some more than others, of course.
Are you telling me you don't wear black and gold glasses?
- hscesq

It was the intent comment, how you know he didn't intend to injure. Just jabbing you.

It was the intent comment, how you know he didn't intend to injure. Just jabbing you.
- salvadorsanchez

Ah. Well, his behavior afterwards is what I am going on. You're right to say I don't know for sure - I totally agree.

WTF is up with the fine to Neal? That's a weird one.