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Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 24 @ 6:59 PM ET
Really? So did they do Briere, Kimmo, and Hartnell dirty also. I'm not defending the organization blindly, but let's not make it seem now that everybody would be leary of coming to Philly because of this. This team has always shown a win at all cost mentality (certainly made a lot of mistakes over the years) and pays top dollar.

I'm sad to Carter and Richards to go, but it is still a franchise players will want to go play for in the future.

- Troxell88

I think players will still want to come here.
But they would be crazy to give up any UFA years, or sign for less then the market would bear for their services.
Carter made a real financial sacrifice to sign that deal, because he believed the team was committed to him for his career.
The team decides then that it wasn't working, he doesn't get another shot to renegotiate his UFA deal.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 24 @ 6:59 PM ET
Overloaded offense. poop goaltending. On a team up against the cap. Moves are bound to happen in that scenario or it'd just be more of the same next year.
- hereticpride


No such thing as overloaded offense. Goaltending was the only big weakness. I doubt it would have been more of the same with Bryzgalov on board.
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Jun 24 @ 7:00 PM ET
See how awesome it is to have a 1st rounder?
- Yosimar89

Its really still a blur.. but I like it alot. I havent been this excited in a bit
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 24 @ 7:00 PM ET
I have a suspicion the Flyers won't stay at #8. Just a hunch. They might move up or down. That I'm not sure. The Flyers MO is to never stand pat.
- PLindbergh31

Hopefully they pull the trigger to move to 3. If Florida is calling about bob I'm sure something could be hashed out
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 24 @ 7:01 PM ET
I really hope it's not down. But then again i want Bob in O&B next year.
- Yosimar89


My thought on this is mixed. If Bryz has a long term injury would be nice to have Bob to fall back on, in addition I think Bob is going to be a very good goaltender.

That being said, its hard keeping a backup goalie with close to a 2 million dollar cap hit. He's not going to be able to develop with Bryzgalov here.

I'm glad I'm not making the decision here, because I don't know what the answer is.
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Jun 24 @ 7:02 PM ET
Hopefully they pull the trigger to move to 3. If Florida is calling about bob I'm sure something could be hashed out
- Just5

If vokun isnt comming back I can see bob in play..
flyfan1212
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I am the god of tits and wine.
Joined: 05.06.2011

Jun 24 @ 7:02 PM ET
i really wish we could get landeskog.. but dougie hamilton would be awesome too.
Scottie Upshall
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Mike Richards snorted coke off
Joined: 07.30.2009

Jun 24 @ 7:02 PM ET
LANDESKOG
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jun 24 @ 7:02 PM ET
Yup. I was. I don't have it in me to be a douche to people who are polite. Only when people are douchenozzles do I whip the pad out. Or if they show flagrant disregard towards the law.
- PLindbergh31


2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 24 @ 7:02 PM ET
LANDESKOG
- Scottie Upshall

RICHARDS
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Jun 24 @ 7:02 PM ET
poop is about to get (frank)ing nuts in this mother female dog
Duran76
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Calmer than you are dude, PA
Joined: 07.25.2010

Jun 24 @ 7:02 PM ET
i really wish we could get landeskog.. but dougie hamilton would be awesome too.
- flyfan1212


He looks like Josh Homme's little brother
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 24 @ 7:03 PM ET
(frank)em this is hockey not friggen lets make friends hug hippy time

if you don't produce YOURE GONE

- 2Real


Your first point has some merit to it, the point about you don't produce you are gone is pure nonsense.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 24 @ 7:03 PM ET
I'd like to know what factors led him to believe that the deals were mistakes. He may have made bigger mistakes yesterday.
- MJL

I feel the same way as you.

I would have stayed the course for another season with Carter and Richards, and bring in a goalie.

I don't know what led Homer to first perceive these 2 players as the pillar franchises, and then sign them to 10+year deals, and then turn around and make those trades.

They are a lesser team right now.

If Schenn pans out like he should, well fine, but as of right now he is potential.
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Jun 24 @ 7:03 PM ET
RICHARDS
- 2Real

Just say no to Richards!!!!
Scottie Upshall
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Mike Richards snorted coke off
Joined: 07.30.2009

Jun 24 @ 7:04 PM ET
1.Landeskog
2.Landeskog
3.Landeskog
4.Landeskog
5.Landeskog
6.Landeskog
7.Landeskog
8.Landeskog
9.Landeskog
10.Landeskog
flyfan1212
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I am the god of tits and wine.
Joined: 05.06.2011

Jun 24 @ 7:04 PM ET
He looks like Josh Homme's little brother
- Duran76

hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 24 @ 7:04 PM ET
No such thing as overloaded offense. Goaltending was the only big weakness. I doubt it would have been more of the same with Bryzgalov on board.
- MJL

Overloaded in the sense that we had tons of talent there for the almost total lack of it we had in goal. Unbalanced.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jun 24 @ 7:04 PM ET
poop is about to get (frank)ing nuts in this mother female dog
- bigmookalookie


prepare to scalr.
Troxell88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.27.2009

Jun 24 @ 7:04 PM ET
I think players will still want to come here.
But they would be crazy to give up any UFA years, or sign for less then the market would bear for their services.
Carter made a real financial sacrifice to sign that deal, because he believed the team was committed to him for his career.
The team decides then that it wasn't working, he doesn't get another shot to renegotiate his UFA deal.

- Marc D


Good points. I tend to believe there is more to this story that is known in the public. There almost has to be, the organization just doesn't get rid of cornerstone players for the hope of getting better with younger more unproven players, especially when you are playing in a big market like Philly.

I think at some level, Richards and Carter have some accountability in their trades yesterday.
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Jun 24 @ 7:04 PM ET



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Brule for Ryan Smyth
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 24 @ 7:05 PM ET
Your first point has some merit to it, the point about you don't produce you are gone is pure nonsense.
- PLindbergh31

then you shouldn't mind shelley on the team
the deaninator
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Purgatory, DE
Joined: 08.06.2006

Jun 24 @ 7:05 PM ET
Good points. I tend to believe there is more to this story that is known in the public. There almost has to be, the organization just doesn't get rid of cornerstone players for the hope of getting better with younger more unproven players, especially when you are playing in a big market like Philly.

I think at some level, Richards and Carter have some accountability in their trades yesterday.

- Troxell88

i totally agree with that.
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Jun 24 @ 7:06 PM ET
NHLNSiderJames Jackson





Brule for Ryan Smyth

- bigmookalookie

Goodndeal for the Oil. Is it final?
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Jun 24 @ 7:06 PM ET
prepare to scalr.
- hammarby31

LET'S DO THIS!
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