I still think he can be in that tier jsut below the elites as a QB. He does seem to have some weird accuracy issues this year, but he's a really smart QB overall.
- Nucker101

my concern is that he's seemed to be anything but smart this season. which i did consider a big strength of his before

collinswerth
- Crimsoninja

The worst

Brady's prob pissed because he hasn't had a legit #1 WR outside of Moss despite may paycuts and they went ahead and traded a starting o-linemen before the season. I don't blame him. Gronk looks like he's lost a step, Edelman's basically a short/medium threat, and the rest kinda suck, plus his o-line is average.
- Nucker101

I know. I do feel for him a bit. People will always say Peyton was the better regular season QB, but I feel Brady was just as good if he had the proper talent around him.

Manning has gotten to play with Wayne, Harrison and Clark then Damariyus, Decker, Welker and Julius Thomas.

Brady had one full year with elite weapons and had 50 TDs

The worst
- mr.peanut

if by worst you mean best i agree

but he can't read option.

he's zero threat to run.

watch when he hands off and rolls out faking that he still has the ball. literally nobody goes with him and if you listen carefully you can hear some of the on field mics picking up guys laughing.
- kicksave856

This is not happening

but he can't read option.

he's zero threat to run.

watch when he hands off and rolls out faking that he still has the ball. literally nobody goes with him and if you listen carefully you can hear some of the on field mics picking up guys laughing.
- kicksave856

Call me crazy, but I think Mariota is overrated. So many scrub QB's from Oregon have put up really good numbers and suddenly he's going to be a stud while pretty much none of them could even be a good backup, let alone NFL starter?

Call me crazy, but I think Mariota is overrated. So many scrub QB's from Oregon have put up really good numbers and suddenly he's going to be a stud while pretty much none of them could even be a good backup, let alone NFL starter?
- Nucker101

(frank) mariota

The worst
- mr.peanut

I don't mind him. Who do you like better that's doing NFL games right now?

I still think he can be in that tier jsut below the elites as a QB. He does seem to have some weird accuracy issues this year, but he's a really smart QB overall.
- Nucker101

If Flacco can win, Foles can certainly win.

Like I said before, they can do better, but they can do worse. I'd like them to pursue other options if available. If their pick comes and a guy like Mariota is available, I think you have to pull the trigger. If Brady somehow became available, I think you'd have to explore it.

This is not happening
- PhillySportsGuy

okay. i made that part up.

(frank) mariota
- Crimsoninja

I love him

I know. I do feel for him a bit. People will always say Peyton was the better regular season QB, but I feel Brady was just as good if he had the proper talent around him.

Manning has gotten to play with Wayne, Harrison and Clark then Damariyus, Decker, Welker and Julius Thomas.

Brady had one full year with elite weapons and had 50 TDs
- PhillySportsGuy

Totally agree. I don't feel sorry for him(the guy has had the life of a God), but I totally understand if he's pissed at the organization and 99% of people in his shoes would probably be as well.

Call me crazy, but I think Mariota is overrated. So many scrub QB's from Oregon have put up really good numbers and suddenly he's going to be a stud while pretty much none of them could even be a good backup, let alone NFL starter?
- Nucker101

What QB from Oregon was ever expected to be an NFL starter?

Mariota is big, strong arm, fast, smart and ran Kelly's offense in college.

I love him
- PhillySportsGuy

No way in hell do I take him in the first round, especially the Eagles.

What QB from Oregon was ever expected to be an NFL starter?

Mariota is big, strong arm, fast, smart and ran Kelly's offense in college.
- PhillySportsGuy

Just saying, statistically multiple Oregon QB's in recent history have put up some impressive numbers and gone on to do nothing. Even the offense they've ran since Chip left still pads their QB's stats big time. Wouldn't be the first time the media hyped a decent prospect to God-like status.

Call me crazy, but I think Mariota is overrated. So many scrub QB's from Oregon have put up really good numbers and suddenly he's going to be a stud while pretty much none of them could even be a good backup, let alone NFL starter?
- Nucker101

they can't pick high enough to get him anyway.
i don't know who i want but i think chip would be twice as dangerous with a fast qb who is a threat to run. i don't even think they have to be deadly accurate, just accurate, because guys will be more open since defenders have to spy the qb and the whole defense will be game planning for the option all week so it'll be in their head. i think that having to respect the option game plus the tempo are what makes chip's offense go.

if by worst you mean best i agree
- Crimsoninja

I don't mean best

I don't mind him. Who do you like better that's doing NFL games right now?
- Nucker101

It's probably because I get him every week that I notice how bad he is. I only dislike Gruden more.

Just saying, statistically multiple Oregon QB's in recent history have put up some impressive numbers and gone on to do nothing. Even the offense they've ran since Chip left still pads their QB's stats big time. Wouldn't be the first time the media hyped a decent prospect to God-like status.
- Nucker101

they can't pick high enough to get him anyway.
i don't know who i want but i think chip would be twice as dangerous with a fast qb who is a threat to run. i don't even think they have to be deadly accurate, just accurate, because guys will be more open since defenders have to spy the qb and the whole defense will be game planning for the option all week so it'll be in their head. i think that having to respect the option game plus the tempo are what makes chip's offense go.
- kicksave856

That's fair, I've thought the same myself but I'm still a Foles fan/believer.

It's probably because I get him every week that I notice how bad he is. I only dislike Gruden more.
- mr.peanut

Overall the SNF crew is just flat out better than MNF.

Just saying, statistically multiple Oregon QB's in recent history have put up some impressive numbers and gone on to do nothing. Even the offense they've ran since Chip left still pads their QB's stats big time. Wouldn't be the first time the media hyped a decent prospect to God-like status.
- Nucker101

It's not just the stats though. He's got the tools. He's an accurate passer, he's big and has a strong arm. Guys like Tebow and Manziel don't have those qualities.

Would you take Jameis Rapeston?

they can't pick high enough to get him anyway.
i don't know who i want but i think chip would be twice as dangerous with a fast qb who is a threat to run. i don't even think they have to be deadly accurate, just accurate, because guys will be more open since defenders have to spy the qb and the whole defense will be game planning for the option all week so it'll be in their head. i think that having to respect the option game plus the tempo are what makes chip's offense go.
- kicksave856

hate knowing that the plan was to go after Wilson

That's fair, I've thought the same myself but I'm still a Foles fan/believer.
- Nucker101

some of his decisions this season are just making me second guess the trade off of losing half the playbook to have him as QB.

last season it wasn't even a question in my mind that it was a good trade off. this season, if this is what we're getting, i pine to see the rest of the playbook and what chip's really all about.

hate knowing that the plan was to go after Wilson
- Crimsoninja

russell?

the eagles would be so dominant with russell wilson.