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Schenn-Sational!
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Sep 27 @ 10:50 PM ET
Send Kadri, and Frattin down. Keep Gardiner. Trade Bozak and Gunner for Benn(and then I woke up)


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sensarmy_11
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Sep 27 @ 10:51 PM ET
ugly hit by neil.

he doesn't have any previous suspensions though, as far as i know, and shanahan has said that he factors that in.

i think he'll get the last pre-season game, plus 3 reg season games....4 total.
Unholy_Goalie
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Sep 27 @ 10:52 PM ET
first

how meany games for neil?

- The_Vark



The_Vark
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Sep 27 @ 10:52 PM ET
Send Kadri, and Frattin down. Keep Gardiner. Trade Bozak and Gunner for Benn(and then I woke up)


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The_Vark
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- Unholy_Goalie

Unholy_Goalie
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Sep 27 @ 10:53 PM ET
Send Kadri, and Frattin down. Keep Gardiner. Trade Bozak and Gunner for Benn(and then I woke up)


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Aulie hasn't earned a spot and while Komisarek is absolutely horrendous, they won't bench him until they absolutely have to. Aulie should be sent down and Gardiner will too because the Leafs aren't getting Benn for Gunnarsson and Bozak.
The_Vark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2011

Sep 27 @ 10:53 PM ET
ugly hit by neil.

he doesn't have any previous suspensions though, as far as i know, and shanahan has said that he factors that in.

i think he'll get the last pre-season game, plus 3 reg season games....4 total.

- sensarmy_11

that seems like a lot but .... what do i know
Redragon95
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Sep 27 @ 10:57 PM ET
ugly hit by neil.

he doesn't have any previous suspensions though, as far as i know, and shanahan has said that he factors that in.

i think he'll get the last pre-season game, plus 3 reg season games....4 total.

- sensarmy_11


it looks alot like his head hit on drury years ago, the accidently on purpose hit to the head.
The_Vark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
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Sep 27 @ 10:57 PM ET
Aulie hasn't earned a spot and while Komisarek is absolutely horrendous, they won't bench him until they absolutely have to. Aulie should be sent down and Gardiner will too because the Leafs aren't getting Benn for Gunnarsson and Bozak.
- Unholy_Goalie

if gardiner stays up they will send him down in the first two weeks.... needs to learn a pro d-game

no there sure not
burn
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Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 27 @ 10:58 PM ET
ugly hit by neil.

he doesn't have any previous suspensions though, as far as i know, and shanahan has said that he factors that in.

i think he'll get the last pre-season game, plus 3 reg season games....4 total.

- sensarmy_11



Im actually shocked that I couldn;t find any suspensions for Neil.... I though for sure he's have some.


3 games seem reasonable.0
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
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Sep 27 @ 10:59 PM ET
that seems like a lot but .... what do i know
- The_Vark


i also think it's a lot, especially given the fact that the awkward angle, and the fact that it didn't even seem like he was looking at Grabo, makes it seem sort of unintentional (not saying it was, just that it possibly seemed that way). that being said, the way shanabanned has been handing them out, it seems on par.
burn
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Sep 27 @ 10:59 PM ET
it looks alot like his head hit on drury years ago, the accidently on purpose hit to the head.
- Redragon95



yes....
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Sep 27 @ 10:59 PM ET
Aulie hasn't earned a spot and while Komisarek is absolutely horrendous, they won't bench him until they absolutely have to. Aulie should be sent down and Gardiner will too because the Leafs aren't getting Benn for Gunnarsson and Bozak.
- Unholy_Goalie


I honestly don't know what they would get for both of those guys that would be worth it. More middling talent that we already have an abundance of. Might as well let them linger until injuries and trade deadline approaches and get rid of our redundant parts for picks.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
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Sep 27 @ 11:00 PM ET
Im actually shocked that I couldn;t find any suspensions for Neil.... I though for sure he's have some.


3 games seem reasonable.0

- burn


he plays physical, and definately skates the line, but he doesn't really cross it often, and if he does, certainly not by much.

people don't like him cuz he plays physical, and agitates, but i think its' a little unfair that he's bee labelled a dirty player by a lot of people.
thejet
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Sep 27 @ 11:01 PM ET
it looks alot like his head hit on drury years ago, the accidently on purpose hit to the head.
- Redragon95

The Drury hit was completely intentional, but legal under the rules of the time. Drury was caught puck watching when Neil hit him. Completely different IMO. Whether or not Neil gets suspended will be dependent on if Shanny buys that it was incidental.
burn
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Sep 27 @ 11:01 PM ET
i also think it's a lot, especially given the fact that the awkward angle, and the fact that it didn't even seem like he was looking at Grabo, makes it seem sort of unintentional (not saying it was, just that it possibly seemed that way). that being said, the way shanabanned has been handing them out, it seems on par.
- sensarmy_11



1. just because you aren't looking at him when you hit him doesn't mean you don't see him/know he's there

2. you have to be accountable for your actions. If you are driving and look the wrong way and cause an accident you can't say Oops I wasn;t looking....
Zezel
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Sep 27 @ 11:01 PM ET
I kind of hope they just suspend Neil for the first game of the season, because the second game is against Toronto and he has a date with Colton Orr
iLive4theLeafs
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Sep 27 @ 11:02 PM ET

- Unholy_Goalie


He's been waiting all night to use it.....the kid used it on me last night when it didn't even make sense.
burn
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Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
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Sep 27 @ 11:02 PM ET
he plays physical, and definately skates the line, but he doesn't really cross it often, and if he does, certainly not by much.

people don't like him cuz he plays physical, and agitates, but i think its' a little unfair that he's bee labelled a dirty player by a lot of people.

- sensarmy_11



Hit on Drury... there are tons of examples of questionable hits from him.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
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Sep 27 @ 11:03 PM ET
1. just because you aren't looking at him when you hit him doesn't mean you don't see him/know he's there

2. you have to be accountable for your actions. If you are driving and look the wrong way and cause an accident you can't say Oops I wasn;t looking....

- burn



i wasn't sticking up for him, and saying it wasn't a bad hit. i was simply pointing out the fact that it wasn't a "cut and dry" incident. it actually reminded a lot of the hit on crosby last year (although not nearly as hard), where it was just impossible to tell if it was deliberate, or just two players running into eachother.

coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Sep 27 @ 11:03 PM ET
With that hit I think the question is did he mean to hit Grab? If you say no, then he gets nothing. If you say yes then he targeted a players head with out the puck in open ice. That is more then 3 games. 8 would about do it but only if you think he meant to.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Sep 27 @ 11:04 PM ET
1. just because you aren't looking at him when you hit him doesn't mean you don't see him/know he's there

2. you have to be accountable for your actions. If you are driving and look the wrong way and cause an accident you can't say Oops I wasn;t looking....

- burn


Let's vote. How many people here think it was intentional? How many think it was unintentional?
The_Vark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2011

Sep 27 @ 11:04 PM ET
He's been waiting all night to use it.....the kid used it on me last night when it didn't even make sense.
- iLive4theLeafs

burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 27 @ 11:05 PM ET
i wasn't sticking up for him, and saying it wasn't a bad hit. i was simply pointing out the fact that it wasn't a "cut and dry" incident. it actually reminded a lot of the hit on crosby last year (although not nearly as hard), where it was just impossible to tell if it was deliberate, or just two players running into eachother.
- sensarmy_11



IMO both players (neil and Steckel) knew where they were.
thejet
Ottawa Senators
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Sep 27 @ 11:05 PM ET
With that hit I think the question is did he mean to hit Grab? If you say no, then he gets nothing. If you say yes then he targeted a players head with out the puck in open ice. That is more then 3 games. 8 would about do it but only if you think he meant to.
- coffee junkie

If you mean 8 regular season games that would be way to much. If I am not mistaken that is what Wizneiski got and that situation was much different and Wiz has a suspension history.
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