Get your (frank)ing act together. You can't even level one decent criticism.

These are his two quotations:



That's a quotation about Schenn's subpar performance, Filatov's middling performance and Colborne's slightly better performance.

Here, he defines a troll:



Where in the first quotation did he "
- Morris[bring] up a player in a thread about another player, and [talk] him up, making his minor accomplishments sound much better than they were"?

Nowhere, that's (frank)ing where.

Unless, you want to argue that he was puffing up Filatov's "good" performance in the AHL, that Filatov is in fact doing worse than Schenn-Sational gave him credit for? Is THAT your argument?

Let ye without sin cast the first stone

Let ye without sin cast the first stone
- Doppleganger

context? Are you talking about me (and if so tangentially?) or about Schenn-sational?

Are you offering a rebuttal? or hoping a quip will cover over your rhetorical short-comings?

Do I have a flaw in my argument?

Am I naive to think you will answer any of these questions?

context? Are you talking about me (and if so tangentially?) or about Schenn-sational?

Are you offering a rebuttal? or hoping a quip will cover over your rhetorical short-comings?

Do I have a flaw in my argument?

Am I naive to think you will answer any of these questions?
- Morris

Not getting enough sunlight these days?

Look, no one should be accusing anyone else of bringing up other players, just because the thread has a player in it's title, as if this is some how wrong.

No one follows this protocol, and the ones who whine about it the most, are themselves as guilty as anyone.

People will always through out comparisons to other players.........take a vitamin D and get over it.


BTW with Schenn sitting in the press-box, a healthy scratch these days.........this thread is becoming something other than what the author intended..............or should we all pretend that Schenn is still a legitimate top pairing or Shutdown Defensman??

Not getting enough sunlight these days?

Look, no one should be accusing anyone else of bringing up other players, just because the thread has a player in it's title, as if this is some how wrong.

No one follows this protocol, and the ones who whine about it the most, are themselves as guilty as anyone.

People will always through out comparisons to other players.........take a vitamin D and get over it.


BTW with Schenn sitting in the press-box, a healthy scratch these days.........this thread is becoming something other than what the author intended..............or should we all pretend that Schenn is still a legitimate top pairing or Shutdown Defensman??
- Doppleganger

He would be on the Sens.

He would be on the Sens.
- prock

Yes please EK Cowen and Runblad Schenn makes for a pretty good top 4

Yes please EK Cowen and Runblad Schenn makes for a pretty good top 4
- top shelf 15

LOL.

He would be on the Sens.
- prock

Don't really want to comment, as I've hardly seen him play.

In the one game I did see toronto, I don't think I realized he was even dressed until the announcers said his name in the second period.

I suspect the improved play of Komisarik has a lot more to do with Schenn sitting than most none leaf fans (who've not seen them play too much) than anything.

LOL.
- prock

Do you not agree ,to me a guy like Schenn would complete our defense .It would potenialy give us one of teh best 4,s in the league

Do you not agree ,to me a guy like Schenn would complete our defense .It would potenialy give us one of teh best 4,s in the league
- top shelf 15

It wasn't sarcasm. It was a good response.

It wasn't sarcasm. It was a good response.
- prock

I think if we miss out on the big 3 forwards another big rugged defenseman ,would be a nice pick up at the draft

I think if we miss out on the big 3 forwards another big rugged defenseman ,would be a nice pick up at the draft
- top shelf 15

depending on where you think you'll be, Dumba, Rhinehart, Ebert, Murray and Trouba could all be gone by the top 10.

I think if we miss out on the big 3 forwards another big rugged defenseman ,would be a nice pick up at the draft
- top shelf 15

who are considered the big 3? Yakupov, Grigorenko, and?

Ryan Murphy looks to me like one of the best young Dmen to come along in many many years. the numbers he's putting up...... the only other Dman to come along and do that, at his age, is Drew Doughty. Not a single other kid.

depending on where you think you'll be, Dumba, Rhinehart, Ebert, Murray and Trouba could all be gone by the top 10.
- Morris

I think we will be drafting from 8th to first ,we just dont have enough pop up front to overcome much this year

who are considered the big 3? Yakupov, Grigorenko, and?

Ryan Murphy looks to me like one of the best young Dmen to come along in many many years. the numbers he's putting up...... the only other Dman to come along and do that, at his age, is Drew Doughty. Not a single other kid.
- prock

I have heard good things about filip forsberg,i dont know where he is in terms of rankings but i think he is in the top 10

Not getting enough sunlight these days?

Look, no one should be accusing anyone else of bringing up other players, just because the thread has a player in it's title, as if this is some how wrong.

No one follows this protocol, and the ones who whine about it the most, are themselves as guilty as anyone.

People will always through out comparisons to other players.........take a vitamin D and get over it.


BTW with Schenn sitting in the press-box, a healthy scratch these days.........this thread is becoming something other than what the author intended..............or should we all pretend that Schenn is still a legitimate top pairing or Shutdown Defensman??
- Doppleganger

Ugh... it's not really that nice out today.

I should point out two things:
1)Filatov was "brought up" in the thread from the get-go. So that was a kind of a poor example of him trolling.

2)This is a FirstClass thread. I think it's specious to damn him everytime he makes a disparaging comment about a player and suddenly accept him as a reasonable poster when he makes a positive comment about a player that has now started to falter. I.E. If Schenn were doing well, we wouldn't affirm it by virtue of FirstClass' opinion, so why act like FirstClass' fallibility is some kind of blow to our resolve?

who are considered the big 3? Yakupov, Grigorenko, and?

Ryan Murphy looks to me like one of the best young Dmen to come along in many many years. the numbers he's putting up...... the only other Dman to come along and do that, at his age, is Drew Doughty. Not a single other kid.
- prock

Before the CHL season started it was Galchenyuk. If I recall correctly they were even project 1-2-3 in some places. Now guys like Forseberg have come on and guys like Murphy and Dumba have shown they deserve at least top 5 consideration.

Before the CHL season started it was Galchenyuk. If I recall correctly they were even project 1-2-3 in some places. Now guys like Forseberg have come on and guys like Murphy and Dumba have shown they deserve at least top 5 consideration.
- Morris

I took it as an inference that there were 3 players that have heads and tails separated themselves. Like Crosby and Malkin, but 3 of them. I wasn't really aware that there were 3 heads and tails above, which is why I questioned it. It sounds to me like there isn't really 3 that have totally separated themselves?

I took it as an inference that there were 3 players that have heads and tails separated themselves. Like Crosby and Malkin, but 3 of them. I wasn't really aware that there were 3 heads and tails above, which is why I questioned it. It sounds to me like there isn't really 3 that have totally separated themselves?
- prock

This is being talked about as a monster draft, loaded with highly talented players. I have not done much study of it yet but the reports continue to be consistently liking this year's draft group.

This is being talked about as a monster draft, loaded with highly talented players. I have not done much study of it yet but the reports continue to be consistently liking this year's draft group.
- spatso

I'm sure whoever the sens draft will be 20000x better than whoever the Leafs get.

This is being talked about as a monster draft, loaded with highly talented players. I have not done much study of it yet but the reports continue to be consistently liking this year's draft group.
- spatso

They say that every year. That said, this year seems to be pretty loaded to me. There are a LOT of players I see when I look around, that are putting up big numbers at a younger age than normal. Some big ones this year..... Nathan Mackinnon next year.

I'm sure whoever the sens draft will be 20000x better than whoever the Leafs get.
- Schenn-Sational!

Ottawa & toronto first rounders since Ottawa returned to the NHL.


1992
Ottawa Alexei Yashin
toronto Brandon Convery

1993
Ottawa Alexandre Daigle
toronto Kenny Jonsson

1994
Ottawa Radek Bonk
toronto Eric Fichaud

1995
Ottawa Bryan Berard
toronto Jeff Ware

1996
Ottawa Chris Phillips

1997
Ottawa Marian Hossa

1998
toronto Nikolai Antropov
Ottawa Mathieu Chouinard

1999
toronto Luca Cereda
Ottawa Martin Havlat

2000
Ottawa Anton Volchenkov
toronto Brad Boyes

2001
Ottawa Jason Spezza
toronto Carlo Colaiacovo
Ottawa Tim Gleason

2002
Ottawa Jakub Klepis
toronto Alexander Steen

2003
Ottawa Patrick Eaves

2004
Ottawa Andrej Meszaros

2005
Ottawa Brian Lee
toronto Tuukka Rask

2006
toronto Jiri Tlusty
Ottawa Nick Foligno

2007
Ottawa Jim O'Brien

2008
toronto Luke Schenn
Ottawa Erik Karlsson

2009
toronto Nazem Kadri
Ottawa Jared Cowen

2011
Ottawa Mika Zibanejad
Ottawa Stefan Noesen
toronto Tyler Biggs
Ottawa Matt Puempel

Players in bold currently on NHL roster (Sens or leafs)

did this kinda quickly, hope I did not miss anyone, please feel free to correct if any info missing

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Ottawa & toronto first rounders since Ottawa returned to the NHL.


1992
Ottawa Alexei Yashin
toronto Brandon Convery

1993
Ottawa Alexandre Daigle
toronto Kenny Jonsson

1994
Ottawa Radek Bonk
toronto Eric Fichaud

1995
Ottawa Bryan Berard
toronto Jeff Ware

1996
Ottawa Chris Phillips

1997
Ottawa Marian Hossa

1998
toronto Nikolai Antropov
Ottawa Mathieu Chouinard

1999
toronto Luca Cereda
Ottawa Martin Havlat

2000
Ottawa Anton Volchenkov
toronto Brad Boyes

2001
Ottawa Jason Spezza
toronto Carlo Colaiacovo
Ottawa Tim Gleason

2002
Ottawa Jakub Klepis
toronto Alexander Steen

2003
Ottawa Patrick Eaves

2004
Ottawa Andrej Meszaros

2005
Ottawa Brian Lee
toronto Tuukka Rask

2006
toronto Jiri Tlusty
Ottawa Nick Foligno

2007
Ottawa Jim O'Brien

2008
toronto Luke Schenn
Ottawa Erik Karlsson

2009
toronto Nazem Kadri
Ottawa Jared Cowen

2011
Ottawa Mika Zibanejad
Ottawa Stefan Noesen
toronto Tyler Biggs
Ottawa Matt Puempel

Players in bold currently on NHL roster (Sens or leafs)


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- Doppleganger

I'm not sure what your point is.

I'm not sure what your point is.
- prock

your LTP buddy Schenn-Sational, brought up the point that a player drafted by Ottawa surely will be better than one drafted by the leafs. So thought it would be interesting to look back at each teams selections since Ottawa returned to the NHL.

Not trying to make a point, because each team has it's share of hits and misses.

your LTP buddy Schenn-Sational, brought up the point that a player drafted by Ottawa surely will be better than one drafted by the leafs. So thought it would be interesting to look back at each teams selections since Ottawa returned to the NHL.

Not trying to make a point, because each team has it's share of hits and misses.
- Doppleganger

Okay. So, no point. Fair enough.

Okay. So, no point. Fair enough.
- prock

I guess someone, like yourself, who's more knowledgeable about the current leafs roster could point out a number of former first rounders acquired through trade or free agency, that are on the current roster.

I think Steckel was a first rounder for Washington??