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niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Dec 23 @ 8:18 AM ET
Hope to see ya in the morning buddy. Good prediction. Love how Dubi scored in this game. This is why I don't make predictions because I don't want to make myself look like a jackass. Good job big dawg.
- adwolf130


PA should have been benched for letting him skate right by him without taking the body. Nabby needs to make that save.. terrible effort.
Spartiarti
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 09.04.2008

Dec 23 @ 8:19 AM ET
I never said anything about Bailey being better than Dubi.. I said that comparing Dubi to Moulson and Grabner were stupid. I said Bailey has played a lot better this year and I would rather him than Anisimov.. and still feel that way. Bailey played very well last night. He was not on the ice for any Rangers goals and tried to set up the guys on his lines a few times. If you reread my posts I said he had developed into an excellent 2 way player and to WATCH HIM... obviously you did not watch him for a minute b/c he had at least 3 solid back checks that saved easy goals.
- niteislander


Dubi is good hockey player. But lets be real here. Streit blew his defensive coverage and Nabby has to make that save.

Dont worry about Bailey. Bailey has plenty of more upside. Dubi plays with Richards and Callahan on first line. Bailey gets put on line AHL wallace (instead of Nino) and Matt Martin. bailey will be an 75-80 point players in the nhl in next few years.
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Dec 23 @ 8:20 AM ET
I can't believe how bad Reasoner has been. I can't kill anyone on this except Reasoner himself. He always had a reputation as a solid NHL player. He put up 32 points last year and at times was called the best player for the Panthers. He has generated about 3 scoring chances all year and doesn't do anything away from the puck that is any value. It's incredible how terrible he has been.

I'm not a big Capuano guy and wasn't since they hired him. He did a good job in Bridgeport and taught Scott Gordon's system pretty well and the Isles players fit in well when they were called up with the zillion injuries.

There are NHL guys out there now for the first time in a while and I'm disappointed the Isles haven't made a move. Carlye, Andy and Terry Murray, Therrian to name a few are available and all have reputations for bringing discipline and structure.

The Isles are dreadful in their own zone and it's not just the d-men. The forwards make glaring mistakes in their coverage and as a unit, they have no cohesive exit from their own zone. Tough to create offense with speed or on the rush (which should be a strength) when you have to battle just to get the puck to center ice. Teams have figured the Isles out. Force them to dump and chase and the chances against will be few and far between.

I don't dislike Capuano but when there are choices out there that are obvious improvements to your team they have to be made when things are going poorly.

Terry Murray had 2 bad months as Kings coach (no one mentions he lost Simmonds, Ryan Smyth, Handzus and Mike Richards was hurt) and they couldn't score and he is out.

Come on Wang and Snow. I know Cappy is a decent human being and you like him but we need to win.

- Isles316

Reasoner sucks. He's 100% useless. He does nothing well. For all those people who said he was an "upgrade" over Konopka, I say "really?" Konopka would have been 10 times more valuable to this team this season than Reasoner's been.

As for the coaching thing, none of those guys you mentioned are going to want the Isles job. Its a bad job. No coach with any NHL credibility is going to take the Isles job. The only guys who are willing to take the Isles job are AHL guys trying to break into the NHL and personally, I've had enough of those types of coaches.

The team is run like s**t by a bad owner. The front office has a circus-like perception. The team has no long-term plan for its future with respect to where they'll be playing in 2015. No coach is going to want to jump into that mess. Those guys would be better served waiting for another NHL job to open up or go be analysts somewhere. Better to stay with Cappy, create some semblance of consistency and continuity, and hope that the arena mess gets straightened out sooner rather than later.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Dec 23 @ 8:21 AM ET
Dubi is good hockey player. But lets be real here. Streit blew his defensive coverage and Nabby has to make that save.

Dont worry about Bailey. Bailey has plenty of more upside. Dubi plays with Richards and Callahan on first line. Bailey gets put on line AHL wallace (instead of Nino) and Matt Martin. bailey will be an 75-80 point players in the nhl in next few years.

- Spartiarti


I am not a fan of how Streit has been playing.. but I don't blame him on that goal. PA has to friggin play the body. You had him already past JT.. hit him and the play is done. The announcers said he "powers his way through" .. through what PA swiping at the puck.. joke. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOBmYVSXfnY
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Dec 23 @ 8:23 AM ET
Dubi is good hockey player. But lets be real here. Streit blew his defensive coverage and Nabby has to make that save.

Dont worry about Bailey. Bailey has plenty of more upside. Dubi plays with Richards and Callahan on first line. Bailey gets put on line AHL wallace (instead of Nino) and Matt Martin. bailey will be an 75-80 point players in the nhl in next few years.

- Spartiarti

That is one of the boldest statments I've read on these boards. I completely disagree with it, but its bold. You get props for boldness.
GioRock
New York Rangers
Location: Teaneck, NJ
Joined: 03.02.2009

Dec 23 @ 8:23 AM ET
Merry Christmas!!!!
Dan Petriw
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 12.03.2006

Dec 23 @ 8:24 AM ET
Dubi is good hockey player. But lets be real here. Streit blew his defensive coverage and Nabby has to make that save.

Dont worry about Bailey. Bailey has plenty of more upside. Dubi plays with Richards and Callahan on first line. Bailey gets put on line AHL wallace (instead of Nino) and Matt Martin. bailey will be an 75-80 point players in the nhl in next few years.

- Spartiarti



seriously whatever your smoking pass me some of it...stop using the who their playing with excuse...if bailey played his ass off like jt he wouldn't be on the third line
BringBackBalky
New York Islanders
Location: Island Park, NY
Joined: 06.23.2009

Dec 23 @ 8:25 AM ET
You can't change coaches every ten minutes. They just hired this guy 13 months ago. Continuity and consistency are needed if you want to have success. Its no coincidence that the Isles have had about 13 coaches since Al Arbour left after the 93-94 season and the fact that the team has sucked for nearly all of that time.

Winning teams don't change coaches every two years. They find a guy and stick with him. Truth is, no coach worth hiring and replacing Cappy with wants the Isles job. There is too much uncertainty with the club's future address and the organization is run like s**t. Keep Cappy until a legitimate NHL-tested and proven candidate can be hired to replace him. I don't want to see any more AHL guys using the Isles as their first shot at the NHL.

- Jethro09


I agree. I wouldn't change the coach for just another fill in or inexperienced coach. I'd only do it for an established coach who would want the challenge. However, as you stated, no one would accept such challenge here.
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Dec 23 @ 8:25 AM ET
I am not a fan of how Streit has been playing.. but I don't blame him on that goal. PA has to friggin play the body. You had him already past JT.. hit him and the play is done. The announcers said he "powers his way through" .. through what PA swiping at the puck.. joke. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOBmYVSXfnY
- niteislander

Nabokov has to stop that f-ing shot. He's the culprit on that one. It was an outside shot, no screen, no deflection and it beat Nabokov to the far side. He's got to make that save. Nabokov also has to make that save on Del Zotto's goal. Gaborik's goal was the only one that Nabokov was blameless on, his team fell asleep in front of him on that one.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Dec 23 @ 8:25 AM ET
Reasoner sucks. He's 100% useless. He does nothing well. For all those people who said he was an "upgrade" over Konopka, I say "really?" Konopka would have been 10 times more valuable to this team this season than Reasoner's been. As for the coaching thing, none of those guys you mentioned are going to want the Isles job. Its a bad job. No coach with any NHL credibility is going to take the Isles job. The only guys who are willing to take the Isles job are AHL guys trying to break into the NHL and personally, I've had enough of those types of coaches.

The team is run like s**t by a bad owner. The front office has a circus-like perception. The team has no long-term plan for its future with respect to where they'll be playing in 2015. No coach is going to want to jump into that mess. Those guys would be better served waiting for another NHL job to open up or go be analysts somewhere. Better to stay with Cappy, create some semblance of consistency and continuity, and hope that the arena mess gets straightened out sooner rather than later.

- Jethro09



Konopka led the league in fighting majors. For the same reason NHL fans were screaming at Mario for being a hypocrite with Cooke on his team and whining about other teams play.

Wang is very vocal about being agains fighting in hockey. Every time they have owner meetings he is one of the owners trying to abolish it from the game. He did not want to be viewed as a hypocrite by having the guy who LED the nhl in fighting majors. Reasoner is a bum... one of 4 terrible signings this summer (Pandolfo, Rolston and Wallace are the others).
BringBackBalky
New York Islanders
Location: Island Park, NY
Joined: 06.23.2009

Dec 23 @ 8:26 AM ET
That is one of the boldest statments I've read on these boards. I completely disagree with it, but its bold. You get props for boldness.
- Jethro09


Anyone can put comments in bold. Just hit the capital B button when replying!
dtaild
New York Rangers
Location: Cranford, NJ
Joined: 04.16.2007

Dec 23 @ 8:26 AM ET
Dubi is good hockey player. But lets be real here. Streit blew his defensive coverage and Nabby has to make that save.

Dont worry about Bailey. Bailey has plenty of more upside. Dubi plays with Richards and Callahan on first line. Bailey gets put on line AHL wallace (instead of Nino) and Matt Martin. bailey will be an 75-80 point players in the nhl in next few years.

- Spartiarti

Dubi's actually been on 4th line for past dozen games give or take. Unless he turns his game around, aside from the shuffling every game, Dubi will continue to spend his time on the 4th line
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Dec 23 @ 8:28 AM ET
Dubi is good hockey player. But lets be real here. Streit blew his defensive coverage and Nabby has to make that save.

Dont worry about Bailey. Bailey has plenty of more upside. Dubi plays with Richards and Callahan on first line. Bailey gets put on line AHL wallace (instead of Nino) and Matt Martin. bailey will be an 75-80 point players in the nhl in next few years.

- Spartiarti


I don't know about that.. but he is a good 2 way player. Focus on that b/c he is not to blame as a lot of people on these boards try to blame him.. he stopped at least 3 goals by his back checking last night. I don't see him ever being a POWER on offense though... I see him as a PK / 3rd line center guy.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Dec 23 @ 8:30 AM ET
Dubi's actually been on 4th line for past dozen games give or take. Unless he turns his game around, aside from the shuffling every game, Dubi will continue to spend his time on the 4th line
- dtaild


Dubi is a good hockey player. He is not as great as Ranger fans think.. but not as bad as Islander fans think too. If you think the guy is going to score 30 goals a year you are kidding yourself.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Dec 23 @ 8:33 AM ET
The guy I think I was angriest with last night is Okposo. If he played this game like he plays when We are in Minnesota it is a BIIIIG diference. He just drives me nuts... He had one good play when the rangers assumed it was an icing but in general I saw Zero hustle and effort.
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Dec 23 @ 8:35 AM ET
Konopka led the league in fighting majors. For the same reason NHL fans were screaming at Mario for being a hypocrite with Cooke on his team and whining about other teams play.

Wang is very vocal about being agains fighting in hockey. Every time they have owner meetings he is one of the owners trying to abolish it from the game. He did not want to be viewed as a hypocrite by having the guy who LED the nhl in fighting majors. Reasoner is a bum... one of 4 terrible signings this summer (Pandolfo, Rolston and Wallace are the others).

- niteislander

And that's exactly the problem with the Isles: the owner is clueless on how to run a hockey team. If you don't like fighting in hockey, THEN DON'T BUY A F-ING HOCKEY TEAM! Fighting is part of the game. Deal with it. Konopka was a fighter, but he also was a better defensive player and face off guy than Reasoner. The bottom line: the team would be a more competitive and better team with Konopka over Reasoner.

This is exactly why Wang is a joke of and a terrible owner. He is the reason this team is viewed as a laughingstock. I'm done with this guy. I hope he sells the team to someone who will run the team the right way, whether its in NY or somewhere else.
Spartiarti
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 09.04.2008

Dec 23 @ 8:38 AM ET
That is one of the boldest statments I've read on these boards. I completely disagree with it, but its bold. You get props for boldness.
- Jethro09



i just see as his development being mishandled. Guy was a superstar in junior and when you see him on ice, he is strong in the corners and probably one of best passers on the team. problem is who is on the team he can pass to. when ullstrom started to play with him you could see it.

Here is good example. Claude Giroux - the leagues top point getting.
Drafted in 2006. sent a year in juniors and won gold in World juniors. Now in year 3 of his career he is top of the league. im not saying he will become Giroux but Islanders rush all the prospects and perception is they are busts.

Bailey is 21 and even crazier is Nino is 19. nino had two great scoring chance against winnipeg othe rnight playing with bailey. Why would capuano put wallace with bailey tonight and then put nino on 4th line. its stupidity.

would it hurt to play nino on PP in from of net? or give Bailey some top mins?

last i check we werent in top of standing and protecting this lead.
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

Dec 23 @ 8:40 AM ET
Dubi's actually been on 4th line for past dozen games give or take. Unless he turns his game around, aside from the shuffling every game, Dubi will continue to spend his time on the 4th line
- dtaild


Dubinsky played himself onto the fourth line. Scored a nice goal(finally) last night but he really can't be talked about, glowingly, this season.
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Dec 23 @ 8:41 AM ET
Hope to see ya in the morning buddy. Good prediction. Love how Dubi scored in this game. This is why I don't make predictions because I don't want to make myself look like a jackass. Good job big dawg.
- adwolf130




Have fun with it fellas, but just be able to take it back...don't get as pissy as you usually do when I pay your board a visit the next time the Isles beat the Rangers
ISLES1119
New York Islanders
Location: LONG ISLAND!!!!, NY
Joined: 10.14.2010

Dec 23 @ 8:43 AM ET
i just see as his development being mishandled. Guy was a superstar in junior and when you see him on ice, he is strong in the corners and probably one of best passers on the team. problem is who is on the team he can pass to. when ullstrom started to play with him you could see it.

Here is good example. Claude Giroux - the leagues top point getting.
Drafted in 2006. sent a year in juniors and won gold in World juniors. Now in year 3 of his career he is top of the league. im not saying he will become Giroux but Islanders rush all the prospects and perception is they are busts.

Bailey is 21 and even crazier is Nino is 19. nino had two great scoring chance against winnipeg othe rnight playing with bailey. Why would capuano put wallace with bailey tonight and then put nino on 4th line. its stupidity.

would it hurt to play nino on PP in from of net? or give Bailey some top mins?

last i check we werent in top of standing and protecting this lead.

- Spartiarti


It is because Capuano is a genius and everything he makes turns into gold! I would love to see Bailey and Nino play together. It probably won't happen until next year. I just don't understand what Capuano is doing. It is time to fire him and get a better coach. Hire Trottier!
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Dec 23 @ 8:45 AM ET
Nabokov has to stop that f-ing shot. He's the culprit on that one. It was an outside shot, no screen, no deflection and it beat Nabokov to the far side. He's got to make that save. Nabokov also has to make that save on Del Zotto's goal. Gaborik's goal was the only one that Nabokov was blameless on, his team fell asleep in front of him on that one.
- Jethro09


I'm not so upset with that loss...I didn't think they played too bad, but maybe I'm alone there. Went up against a good team that's firing on all cylinders, and if not for a bonehead coaching decision with nearly 2 minutes left, the game would have probably come down to the last second. Too much time in their own zone, but they kept it to the outside for the most part.
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Dec 23 @ 8:48 AM ET
It is because Capuano is a genius and everything he makes turns into gold! I would love to see Bailey and Nino play together. It probably won't happen until next year. I just don't understand what Capuano is doing. It is time to fire him and get a better coach. Hire Trottier!
- ISLES1119


It happened in the last game in Winnipeg. I'm not sure why Capuano changed that and put Tim friggin Wallace on the line. Bailey set Nino up for two good chances right in front against the Jets...Pavalec just somehow stopped them both.
wereallislanders
New York Islanders
Location: smithtown, NY
Joined: 07.19.2007

Dec 23 @ 8:51 AM ET
the part of MSG that was done over looks good
Spartiarti
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 09.04.2008

Dec 23 @ 8:52 AM ET
I'm not so upset with that loss...I didn't think they played too bad, but maybe I'm alone there. Went up against a good team that's firing on all cylinders, and if not for a bonehead coaching decision with nearly 2 minutes left, the game would have probably come down to the last second. Too much time in their own zone, but they kept it to the outside for the most part.
- UIF



many bonehead coaching decisions and soft defense on our part was reason why isles lost. Effort was there. Tavares line was great. Our PP went 2-3. our PK was perfect. Problem instead of having 3 very good lines and tough 4th line.Capuano made Nino a 4thline and put a less skilled grinder wallace to play on 3rd line.
So basically we had 2 good lines and 2 mix bag lines.

The good thing is we have chance a redemption on tuesday.
Spartiarti
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 09.04.2008

Dec 23 @ 8:55 AM ET
I know you guys love to coin me the ultimate bailey fan but its just that i know hockey.

How many times a game do you see Bailey make a great drop pass or perfect pass to someone and they either fumble it or were out of position to receive it.

I love Nielsen but i wouldnt hurt to try bailey with grabs and ko just for a game.
Or at least keep Nino with Bailey.

With a young guy like Nino, if he finds back of the net he will start to go on tear.
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