Game 7 went the way some elimination Flyer games have gone in the past. Anti-climatic/letdown. Luongo pooping the bed in all the games in Boston and the team only going 2-35 on the PP was the difference in the series imo. Boston's toughness (maybe overly so) should have actually cost them the series.
- rockychocbill

I don't believe this to be true. The Sedins were barely a factor throughout the playoffs. Not only the Bruins but the teams they faced before them pushed the Twins around.

hate for Boston >>>>>hate for Canucks
- Marc D

You would think. Maybe it's just the media here in VanCity overreacting a bit.

There was a good little bit of audio yesterday when Tony Gallagher was on a Boston radio station and they just "happened" to have Shawn Thornton outside the studio and called him in to "speak" with Tony.

- Crimsoninja

Stop posting with yourself.

Crepe. Forgot to sign in as a mod first.

I don't believe this to be true. The Sedins were barely a factor throughout the playoffs. Not only the Bruins but the teams they faced before them pushed the Twins around.
- Schenn2shine

You need to look up the stats first dude. Daniel had 20 pts in 25 gms. Henrik had 22. Hardly non-factor numbers. 68 PIM's between the two of them too. Maybe they did get pushed around but that's their game and they can play around it. Boston took many, many liberties figuring the refs wouldn't call everything and they didn't. The twins biggest playoff misgivings were being a collective -20. Some of that is on Luongo though I'm sure.

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- Crimsoninja

In due time. Will see what happens with Spags. That dream staff is basically the same as last season. But I love me some Spags.

You need to look up the stats first dude. Daniel had 20 pts in 25 gms. Henrik had 22. Hardly non-factor numbers. 68 PIM's between the two of them too. Maybe they did get pushed around but that's their game and they can play around it. Boston took many, many liberties figuring the refs wouldn't call everything and they didn't. The twins biggest playoff misgivings were being a collective -20. Some of that is on Luongo though I'm sure.
- rockychocbill

I don't have to look at the stats. I watched the games. Even Hockey Night in Canada would rag on them for not showing up some nights. It's easy to look at points after the fact and say "They played well", and they should because they are top talents in the league but on some nights teams had their way with the Sedins. Heck, in the first round against the Hawks, the Hawks were down 3-0, only for the Canucks to let them back into it, as the Hawks tied the series.

I really thought he had promise when he first came on the beat. But it sure seems like he is under the influence of the more senior writer on the beat. I've seen some real unprofessional stuff coming out on players, in reports from the "Insider"
- MJL

My feelings exactly. I hoped Seravalli would be a much needed breath of fresh air on the beat. Instead, he's become more of the same.

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- Crimsoninja

Who are these people?
Any of these guys right handed defenseman?

no matter what happens on the trade front, no one will be happy with the trade that is made.

I don't have to look at the stats. I watched the games. Even Hockey Night in Canada would rag on them for not showing up some nights. It's easy to look at points after the fact and say "They played well", and they should because they are top talents in the league but on some nights teams had their way with the Sedins. Heck, in the first round against the Hawks, the Hawks were down 3-0, only for the Canucks to let them back into it, as the Hawks tied the series.
- Schenn2shine

Daniel had 2 GWG's and Henrik had 4. The team won 15 games. Do the math. You said they were barely a factor throughout the playoffs. I'm not president of the Sedin fan club, but I also don't like how these opinions about them get perpetrated. They are who they are. Highly skilled players who don't play a highly physical game. Just like Jeff Carter or Claude Giroux.

no matter what happens on the trade front, no one will be happy with the trade that is made.
- wilsonecho91

I will. Any upgrade on D will be a good one.

no matter what happens on the trade front, no one will be happy with the trade that is made.
- wilsonecho91

I think once Gustafsson steps into the lineup they wont even make a trade. If they do make one it will be very small for depth.

Daniel had 2 GWG's and Henrik had 4. The team won 15 games. Do the math. You said they were barely a factor throughout the playoffs. I'm not president of the Sedin fan club, but I also don't like how these opinions about them get perpetrated. They are who they are. Highly skilled players who don't play a highly physical game. Just like Jeff Carter or Claude Giroux.
- rockychocbill

Collecting points is great but did the Flyers play well when they allowed the Ottawa Senators to get back into the game when we were up 4-1? Did the Flyers play well when they allowed the Hawks to get back into the game when they were up 4-2? Did the Flyers play well when they were up 2-0 at the Winter Classic? In this case with the Vancouver Canucks, They let teams back into a series when being up. I believe they were up 3-2 in the Stanley Final against the Bruins and the Bruins won. Against the Black Hawks, they should have swept them. The worst part is, the Canucks were in number seed in the West and the entire league, just to let the 8th seed to win the next 3 games to tie the series. I'm happy the Sedins had 6 game winning goals all together in 15 games that they won, but they didn't win it all after having a run away season, when they were unmatched by anyone else.

I'd hardly say they limped out of Buffalo. Ryan Miller stole two games. If the Flyers got competent goaltending, they win that series in 5
- Jsaquella

Goaltending is part of the team- that was part of the limping IMO. We had other issues too and Pronger was still questionable.

Collecting points is great but did the Flyers play well when they allowed the Ottawa Senators to get back into the game when we were up 4-1? Did the Flyers play well when they allowed the Hawks to get back into the game when they were up 4-2? Did the Flyers play well when they were up 2-0 at the Winter Classic? In this case with the Vancouver Canucks, They let teams back into a series when being up. I believe they were up 3-2 in the Stanley Final against the Bruins and the Bruins won. Against the Black Hawks, they should have swept them. The worst part is, the Canucks were in number seed in the West and the entire league, just to let the 8th seed to win the next 3 games to tie the series. I'm happy the Sedins had 6 game winning goals all together in 15 games that they won, but they didn't win after having a run away season, when they were unmatched by anyone else.
- Schenn2shine

We all know the playoffs are a war of attrition. The Canucks lost Hamhuis and then lost Rome to suspension after his hit on Horton. That was probably the turning point of the series right there. Kesler's arm was hanging by a thread by the time the finals rolled around too. Injuries are not an excuse as the saying goes, but still........... The Bruins were successful at wearing the Canucks down and the Canucks didn't capitalize on their PP chances. You can't hang the series on the Sedin's was my main point. It was a total team thing.

We all know the playoffs are a war of attrition. The Canucks lost Hamhuis and then lost Rome to suspension after his hit on Horton. That was probably the turning point of the series right there. Kesler's arm was hanging by a thread by the time the finals rolled around too. Injuries are not an excuse as the saying goes, but still........... The Bruins were successful at wearing the Canucks down and the Canucks didn't capitalize on their PP chances. You can't hang the series on the Sedin's was my main point. It was a total team thing.
- rockychocbill

Why can't I? Kesler was healthy enough to play and so were the Twins. The Bruins lost a key piece to their top line in Nathan Horton and that didn't seem to be a problem for them. I watched the games, did you? The Sedins got off to a slow start in the playoffs and on some nights were physically out matched.

My feelings exactly. I hoped Seravalli would be a much needed breath of fresh air on the beat. Instead, he's become more of the same.
- BulliesPhan87

seravalli has fallen short for me as well...

Why can't I? Kesler was healthy enough to play and so were the Twins. The Bruins lost a key piece to their top line in Nathan Horton and that didn't seem to be a problem for them. I watched the games, did you? The Sedins got off to a slow start in the playoffs and on some nights were physically out matched.
- Schenn2shine

I've gotta go now, but I will concede that the Sedin's were physically outmatched. I've already said that. They're physically outmatched every night they play, it's not their game. Slow start or not, the numbers were there and the team won 15 games. You don't do that without contributions from everyone. They are not the type of players that necessarily put a team on their back. That's more of a Kesler type. Anyhow, what's done is done, and they, like the Flyers the year before, can only hope to have learned from the experience.

I've gotta go now, but I will concede that the Sedin's were physically outmatched. I've already said that. They're physically outmatched every night they play, it's not their game. Slow start or not, the numbers were there and the team won 15 games. You don't do that without contributions from everyone. They are not the type of players that necessarily put a team on their back. That's more of a Kesler type. Anyhow, what's done is done, and they, like the Flyers the year before, can only hope to have learned from the experience.
- rockychocbill

Obviously the Canucks as a whole won some games, they were in the Cup Final and when you play as many games as they did, chances are the top line is going to collect points. It's not as if they forgot how to play Hockey.

The Flyers had the same experience as the Canucks one season before but being physical wasn't our problem. In fact in my opinion our 3 stars could have been better in Simon Gagne, Jeff Carter and Mike Richards.

I will. Any upgrade on D will be a good one.
- Schenn2shine

if they got franzen, at least we know that the PP would get a boost...he's also a good passer. I've heard skating is an issue, but the cost for him should not be excessive.

not really interested in schenn for what it would cost, because right now, he's pretty one-dimensional.

if they got franzen, at least we know that the PP would get a boost...he's also a good passer. I've heard skating is an issue, but the cost for him should not be excessive.

not really interested in schenn for what it would cost, because right now, he's pretty one-dimensional.
- isaiah520

I'm unaware of how physical Franzen is. I'd like to know.

I'm unaware of how physical Franzen is. I'd like to know.
- Schenn2shine

not really that much. he's a big guy who is more along the lines of a bob Dailey type, so will prob never be as physical as his size would seem to dictate.
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not really that much. he's a big guy who is more along the lines of a bob Dailey type, so will prob never be as physical as his size would seem to dictate.
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- isaiah520

Pass. We need Physical. I think if the Flyers really needed more offense from t defense, they could add Meszaros to the PP at anytime. In fact, Meszaros has done a fantastic job at collecting points without much PP time.

Yup. The players that he decides should be on the team. I wouldn't think any GM would ever want one of his players coming out and saying the team had a losing mentality.

From watching the latest Cammalleri clip it sounds like he's just frustrated with Cunneyworth's "simple" style of game plan.
- rockychocbill

Cammalleri's comments aren't that much different from Knuble's in Washington earlier this year. Knuble is still in DC.

not really that much. he's a big guy who is more along the lines of a bob Dailey type, so will prob never be as physical as his size would seem to dictate.
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- isaiah520

Franzen? the Mule from Detroit?