puckhead17
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Location: Old Time Hockey Joined: 08.14.2011
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Sorry, couldn't help myself
UncleButsy
I'd like to congratulate Tim Wallace of the NY Islanders for scoring his 1st career #NHL goal against the #Flyers tomorrow night - Buts16
And Dipietro for probably re-breaking his funny bone |
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Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Ignoreland, GA Joined: 11.04.2005
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Sorry, couldn't help myself
UncleButsy
I'd like to congratulate Tim Wallace of the NY Islanders for scoring his 1st career #NHL goal against the #Flyers tomorrow night - Buts16
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hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: it's been 84 years, AZ Joined: 01.02.2007
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I don't know about Subban, he has issues, it seems off the ice as well as on it - puckhead17
pass. punk. |
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BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz Joined: 07.31.2009
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And Dipietro for probably re-breaking his funny bone - puckhead17
DiPietro is really carrying that team
so the salary cap floor |
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Buts16
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: big masters of the puck Joined: 06.29.2006
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pass. punk. - hammarby31
I think they should see how Gusty does and sit tight for a bit. No need to panic.
Another injury to one the top 4 right now and all bets are off. |
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puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Old Time Hockey Joined: 08.14.2011
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pass. punk. - hammarby31
Word!
I like Schenn though, can't see Toronto moving him
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puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Old Time Hockey Joined: 08.14.2011
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DiPietro is really carrying that team
so the salary cap floor - BulliesPhan87
He's a CBA cap compliant hero |
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hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: it's been 84 years, AZ Joined: 01.02.2007
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I think they should see how Gusty does and sit tight for a bit. No need to panic.
Another injury to one the top 4 right now and all bets are off. - Buts16
agreed. but they don't have that much time to get a good read on him and whether they need to make a move. like you said, if a top 4 goes down, then holmger needs to make a move...unfortunately from a position of weakness. |
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hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: it's been 84 years, AZ Joined: 01.02.2007
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Word!
I like Schenn though, can't see Toronto moving him - puckhead17
not really familiar with his game, so i can't say. i'd be surprised to see toronto move such a highly valued young player. then again, it's burke. anything's possible. |
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stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 06.28.2010
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I think they should see how Gusty does and sit tight for a bit. No need to panic.
Another injury to one the top 4 right now and all bets are off. - Buts16
Agreed. Lets see what little Gustafsson can do. The Flyers could use help on the blueline but im not willing to trade any current roster player for it. I would be willing to trade one pick and a player from the Phantoms. |
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bodiva88
Referee Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices. Joined: 07.01.2007
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Sorry, couldn't help myself
UncleButsy
I'd like to congratulate Tim Wallace of the NY Islanders for scoring his 1st career #NHL goal against the #Flyers tomorrow night - Buts16
Oh man. I don't think even the Flyers' ability to give people their first goals will work for Timmy. He's already played against the Flyers. His first Pens callup. |
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bodiva88
Referee Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices. Joined: 07.01.2007
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I didn't really get the chance to listen carefully to the Hartnell interview. But he did say that Jagr gets on him in practice if he thinks he's not working hard enough and it really affects him. He wants to do everything he can to keep playing with those two.
He also said he'd kind of wondered what Jagr would be like, having done what he's done and been the player he's been. But when he got here he's just always happy and funny and a great guy to be around. (I think we can kind of see that from the glimpses we've had.) |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Just as an update on the Flyers Cap situation. The moves made today of sending down Walker and recalling Gustafsson, has raised the Flyers Cap number of what they can afford . As the roster stands now, the Flyers can take on a full season Cap hit of $4,529,256 |
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stveshdy
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Joined: 06.28.2010
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I didn't really get the chance to listen carefully to the Hartnell interview. But he did say that Jagr gets on him in practice if he thinks he's not working hard enough and it really affects him. He wants to do everything he can to keep playing with those two.
He also said he'd kind of wondered what Jagr would be like, having done what he's done and been the player he's been. But when he got here he's just always happy and funny and a great guy to be around. (I think we can kind of see that from the glimpses we've had.) - bodiva88
You think they eat breakfast together? |
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isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it" Joined: 12.26.2006
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Schenn has a chance to be a very, very good defenseman. What makes him one dimensional? - MJL
dont see him as any kind of offensive threat, whether it is on the rush, from the point or playmaking. that would be ok if the cost wasnt going to be very hi, which it likely would.
i certainly see him as a solid def dman who will be an effective decision-maker/ crease clearer, but i wouldn't trade jvr or schenn for that kind of dman. |
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eshake
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Philly, PA Joined: 06.20.2009
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It's far too early to say he's a bust. He's struggled, but he's still a talented kid. The cost would like be prohibitive for me. - Jsaquella
is it really certain to think, after the last 3 years, that JvR has any better chance to become a top 3 forward as Luke Schenn has to be a top pairing Dman that can consistently skate 20+ quality minutes?
both players have all the tools.
the FLyers need D right now for their cup run, and moving forward. i'd take Schenn for JvR |
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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dont see him as any kind of offensive threat, whether it is on the rush, from the point or playmaking. that would be ok if the cost wasnt going to be very hi, which it likely would.
i certainly see him as a solid def dman who will be an effective decision-maker/ crease clearer, but i wouldn't trade jvr or schenn for that kind of dman. - isaiah520
So he has no potential whatsoever in the future offensively? It seems as though his offensive numbers have progressed each Season. Do the pro scouts concur with your analysis. How about his physical game, or his ability to make a first pass and move the puck?
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puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Old Time Hockey Joined: 08.14.2011
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is it really certain to think, after the last 3 years, that JvR has any better chance to become a top 3 forward as Luke Schenn has to be a top pairing Dman that can consistently skate 20+ quality minutes?
both players have all the tools.
the FLyers need D right now for their cup run, and moving forward. i'd take Schenn for JvR - eshake
ouch, eeeeeeeeeeeeee, no
not JVR not yet
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eshake
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Location: Philly, PA Joined: 06.20.2009
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ouch, eeeeeeeeeeeeee, no
not JVR not yet - puckhead17
they are both the same age? why not "now"....? maybe later then?
in theory both could get better. RIGHT NOW, where Schenn is at, he'd help the Flyers more than having JvR RIGHT NOW |
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puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Old Time Hockey Joined: 08.14.2011
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they are both the same age? why not "now"....? maybe later then?
in theory both could get better. RIGHT NOW, where Schenn is at, he'd help the Flyers more than having JvR RIGHT NOW - eshake
saying I'm not ready to give up on JVR yet, we have Mez, Coburn & Carle all under 30, there could be other options, I love Luke Schenn, (said it B4), but I'm not moving JVR now.
He's playing hurt all this season, I want to see what he can do healthy & at this state of maturity. |
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puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Old Time Hockey Joined: 08.14.2011
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they are both the same age? why not "now"....? maybe later then?
in theory both could get better. RIGHT NOW, where Schenn is at, he'd help the Flyers more than having JvR RIGHT NOW - eshake
also, not ready to pay a #5 D man $3.6 million a year, as he would be arguably #5 here right now |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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saying I'm not ready to give up on JVR yet, we have Mez, Coburn & Carle all under 30, there could be other options, I love Luke Schenn, (said it B4), but I'm not moving JVR now.
He's playing hurt all this season, I want to see what he can do healthy & at this state of maturity. - puckhead17
I'm not ready to give up on JVR either. I'd move him in the right deal though. We have Carle for this year only as of right now.
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eshake
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Location: Philly, PA Joined: 06.20.2009
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saying I'm not ready to give up on JVR yet, we have Mez, Coburn & Carle all under 30, there could be other options, I love Luke Schenn, (said it B4), but I'm not moving JVR now.
He's playing hurt all this season, I want to see what he can do healthy & at this state of maturity. - puckhead17
i don't necessarily think that trading JvR for any asset you may feel makes your team immediately (and potentially, in the long run) better is "giving up on him".
I would never see leadership ability from JvR...i see tons of leadership potential in Luke Schenn. |
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puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Old Time Hockey Joined: 08.14.2011
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i don't necessarily think that trading JvR for any asset you may feel makes your team immediately (and potentially, in the long run) better is "giving up on him".
I would never see leadership ability from JvR...i see tons of leadership potential in Luke Schenn. - eshake
I do agree on the leadership aspect, & yes, I'd move JVR for a more fully rounded proven commodity like Bobby Ryan, or maybe Ryan Suter, but otherwise, no, I hold on to him at this stage |
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eshake
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Location: Philly, PA Joined: 06.20.2009
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also, not ready to pay a #5 D man $3.6 million a year, as he would be arguably #5 here right now - puckhead17
well, if Pronger wasn't hurt, you'd be paying your #5 4million....
Schenn is totally 2nd line material on the Flyers right now, with comparable and complimentary skills with all of our top 4.
he'd be the perfect pair w/ Carle... |
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