i'll buy that....but he definitely brings a physical prescence and is only a 3rd line forward

that being said, the Flyers have 5 guys then who are YOUNG forwards that project into that realm. they DON'T, however, have any top 3 projected blue liners on their team or in the hole.

in any of these trades that could happen, the flyers need to use legit commodities they have to get the ones they don't.
- eshake

The Flyers have legit commodities that they can use to get top 3 projected blueliners on their team without giving up any of the young forwards. Their called draft picks.

It makes sense if you think realllly hard about it. He makes less than the guy who makes more. Because of that, he is good trade bait. You trade him for a guy who has a huge cap hit and it would likely off set.
- jak521

The Jets have really been the Flyers (and Bobrovsky's) kryptonite. Minus those two starts, Bobrovsky's stat line would read: 1.92 GAA, .934 SV.

I agree. He's not exactly getting any sort of understanding from fans. It doesn't matter what he's getting paid, he was never going to be the second coming of Martin Brodeur coming into this season. If anyone were expected as such, that's your own problem.
- Schenn2shine

I agree with some of your post. But as a fan you would expect Bryz to have a gaa under 3 and a sv% above .900

The media has not been kind to Brygalov at all. Which is kind of strange since he is always very friendly and accommodating with them.

The media in this town blows.........(perhaps this is all I should have said)
- MBFlyerfan

Bob in my opinion has more reason to relaxed. Bob deserves all the credit in the world to be playing well but he's not exactly under pressure either.

I agree with some of your post. But as a fan you would expect Bryz to have a gaa under 3 and a sv% above .900
- stveshdy

There is a lot of hockey to be played

The Jets have really been the Flyers (and Bobrovsky's) kryptonite. Minus those two starts, Bobrovsky's stat line would read: 1.92 GAA, .934 SV.
- BoomGoesTheCoburn

That's a good point, but I still don't remember BOB "stealing" any games. He played awesome against Pit in the last game we faced them, but other than that I wouldn't say he's been leaps and bounds better than Bryz.

The other thing is they could be showcasing BOB as potential trade bait at the deadline. Not sure what the market is for him, but with all the trade speculation, I wouldn't be surprised if that was a factor.

You never know what Lavy is thinking. Last years goalie carousel was ridiculous. He even went to the extreme and played Leighton who I believe only had 1 NHL game all season. LOL.
- stveshdy

It was an embarrassing.

There is a lot of hockey to be played
- Schenn2shine

There is, but you would still expect him to be better.

There is a lot of hockey to be played
- Schenn2shine

I agree. Im not saying his numbers wont get better but you can understand the frustration with some fans over his numbers. He signed a huge deal and people are questioning it, which may be unfair cause its still early.

I agree. Im not saying his numbers wont get better but you can understand the frustration with some fans over his numbers. He signed a huge deal and people are questioning it, which may be unfair cause its still early.
- stveshdy

I see this everytime he starts to get hot....Lavy sits him and puts bob in!

At Giant in Exton
- keatondixon

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Bob in my opinion has more reason to relaxed. Bob deserves all the credit in the world to be playing well but he's not exactly under pressure either.
- Schenn2shine

Bobo's playing to be noticed. He doesn't want to be a second stringer. I'm sure he'd like nothing more than to be moved to a team where he could be the #1 again.

Bobo's playing to be noticed. He doesn't want to be a second stringer. I'm sure he'd like nothing more than to be moved to a team where he could be the #1 again.
- 77rams

And when the time comes the Flyers better cash in big time (with that trade).

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- bodiva88

lol i would have laughed if it was a maple leafs one!

I agree. Im not saying his numbers wont get better but you can understand the frustration with some fans over his numbers. He signed a huge deal and people are questioning it, which may be unfair cause its still early.
- stveshdy

I understand the criticism of his play, but not the questioning of this contract. He should and needs to be better. He was brought in to be "the guy" and he knew that. He's played much better throughout his career. I don't buy into the nonsense that it's a bigger market, yadda yadda. He's a professional athlete and understands what it's like to be one. He just flat out needs to be better.

As far as the rest of his deal goes, it's wayyyy too early to be thinking it was a bad signing.

Do you think trading Read will bring back a top 3 defenseman?
- Marc D

not on his own, no. this was more to the "WHY WOULD WE EVER TRADE JvR" point....more specifically the JvR for Schenn talks

Point of order on Hasek. Brett Hull's foot was in the goal crease in 1999. The Sabre's should've won the cup that year. Also, no matter how bad the Sabres were Hasek almost always put up incredible numbers in the playoffs. Bryz has a long way to go to match Hasek's playoff stats (65games won, 2.02 gaa, .925sv%), most of which was earned on a team you admit was generally bad.

Also, while the Flyers forwards are more talented than Phoenix, Im not so sure about the defense (esp. with Pronger out). How is Bryz's replacement doing in Phoenix this year? Mike Smith is putting up CAREER NUMBERS. Their offense still sucks but noone can deny that defensively that team is playing well. He didn't need a "grace period" to fit in with his new team.

I honestly don't believe Bryz's performance will improve until the defense improves. Bob can play behind a leaky defense, Bryz can't. Either way the Flyers aren't winning anything without team defense improving.
- Flyers_01

I used Hasek as an example. IMO he was a helluva goalie. I think on his best day Bryz can be 2/3's that guy which is A LOT.

IMO Tampa made a big mistake letting Smith go. However Bryz got the yotes into the playoffs let's see if Smith can do that.

Not everyone needs a "grace period" when joining a new team but to act like athletes haven't struggled initially when changing jerseys is ignorance. To keep it in Perspective, guys like Khabibulin, and Belfour both went through this. In contrast Patrick Roy looked washed up before being traded from Montreal. IF it can happen to these guys it can happen to Bryzgalov. Bringing up his lousy numbers when he was on a team that was clearly outclassed by the other is absurd at best, especially when Bryzgalov's replacement has already had a 5 goal give away against the redwings himself.

The Flyers have legit commodities that they can use to get top 3 projected blueliners on their team without giving up any of the young forwards. Their called draft picks.
- MJL

not worth as much unless they are high draft picks, which you'd have to give up MORE of, then people will just complain about not having them anymore.

Bob in my opinion has more reason to relaxed. Bob deserves all the credit in the world to be playing well but he's not exactly under pressure either.
- Schenn2shine

I wouldn't go that far. Sure, Bryzgalov is in the spotlight (as his contract dictates) but Bobrovsky is a guy who was anointed as the Flyers future just over a year ago. He played extremely well as a rookie, was part of a goaltending cluster(frank) in the playoffs, and then relegated to the bench.

Now, I'm not disagreeing with the signing of Ilya, but by all accounts Bobrovsky doesn't want to be a bench-warmer (and why should he?). He's a competitive 23-year-old who has already had a taste of being the "guy." In limited time, he undoubtedly wants to show the organization that he has a rare skill-set; and that in itself creates a certain degree of pressure.

and just to be clear..i was ing at people just complaining all the time...no matter what the reason

The Jets have really been the Flyers (and Bobrovsky's) kryptonite. Minus those two starts, Bobrovsky's stat line would read: 1.92 GAA, .934 SV.
- BoomGoesTheCoburn

Niity owned them.

I wouldn't go that far. Sure, Bryzgalov is in the spotlight (as his contract dictates) but Bobrovsky is a guy who was anointed as the Flyers future just over a year ago. He played extremely well as a rookie, was part of a goaltending cluster(frank) in the playoffs, and then relegated to the bench.

Now, I'm not disagreeing with the signing of Ilya, but by all accounts Bobrovsky doesn't want to be a bench-warmer (and why should he?). He's a competitive 23-year-old who has already had a taste of being the "guy." In limited time, he undoubtedly wants to show the organization that he has a rare skill-set; and that in itself creates a certain degree of pressure.
- BoomGoesTheCoburn

Stated much more eloquently that I had

I agree. He's not exactly getting any sort of understanding from fans. It doesn't matter what he's getting paid, he was never going to be the second coming of Martin Brodeur coming into this season. If anyone were expected as such, that's your own problem.
- Schenn2shine

No one expected him to be Marty, but they expected him to be better than he has been.

I understand the criticism of his play, but not the questioning of this contract. He should and needs to be better. He was brought in to be "the guy" and he knew that. He's played much better throughout his career. I don't buy into the nonsense that it's a bigger market, yadda yadda. He's a professional athlete and understands what it's like to be one. He just flat out needs to be better.

As far as the rest of his deal goes, it's wayyyy too early to be thinking it was a bad signing.
- funmaster18

I honestly believe that Bryzgalov is trying to do to much. He is trying to be the savior for this team and putting too much pressure on himself to be "the guy". He needs to just play hockey and relax. Have fun and confidence when your number is called that night.