We're at the point where they can't put one player before the team. It's not fair to the other players to try and spoon feed him some wins, if he's not playing well enough to justify putting him in the lineup. I don't disregard the point that he is going to have to play his way out of it. But playing less starts then Bryzgalov didn't stop Bobrovksy from playing well and earning more playing time.
- MJL

Bob has a chip on his shoulder; Bryz is constantly looking over his shoulder. They are 2 different roles and they will result in 2 completely different mentalities. Bob thought he would be the goalie of the future, only to see the Flyers drop a life-long contract on Bryz and more-or-less guarantee that Bob will be trade bait or a life-long backup. He has every reason in the world to play loose and take chances that can pay off big-time.

Bryz, on the other hand, is thrown into the shark tank with the ruthless media and fans. He was expected to walk into Philly and be the next Parent. Unfair expectations or not, he hasn't lived up to them yet and is clearly feeling the pressure from fans, media, and management as well.

But to your first point: why can't we afford to put the player before the team? Regardless of the team's current performance, this year was more or less a rebuilding year. If there was ever a year to try and get your goalie going, it would be in the same year in which your starting lineup has 4-6 rookies coming in and out of the lineup with your top defenseman being lost for the year. Like it or not, this team is not posed to make a Cup run. Why not work out the kinks with the most important position in hockey (goalie) and be poised for a 2012-2013 cup run???

so do I.

He has to be better but he's had some tough luck as well. I thought maybe after the 1st Ottawa game last week he was righting the ship but it wasn't to be.

Maybe a big win at home this week with the crowd in his corner will do the trick, I'm certainly hoping that will happen.
- Buts16

he'll need to be lights out to get the crowd in his corner. right now, the crowd is waiting for the bad goal right out of the gate.

i really hope he comes around, but it very likely might not happen this season. i can also see this relationship souring quickly.
- hammarby31

this yr just might be a wash. it might take until nxt yr for him to adjust as it has for some other FAs. don't know who it was, but some ex-plyr - beezer or JR - cited some examples of goalies who took a whole season to adapt.

he'll need to be lights out to get the crowd in his corner. right now, the crowd is waiting for the bad goal right out of the gate.
- hammarby31

Yep. And EVERY goal is a bad goal in many people opinions right now.

Bob has a chip on his shoulder; Bryz is constantly looking over his shoulder. They are 2 different roles and they will result in 2 completely different mentalities. Bob thought he would be the goalie of the future, only to see the Flyers drop a life-long contract on Bryz and more-or-less guarantee that Bob will be trade bait or a life-long backup. He has every reason in the world to play loose and take chances that can pay off big-time.

Bryz, on the other hand, is thrown into the shark tank with the ruthless media and fans. He was expected to walk into Philly and be the next Parent. Unfair expectations or not, he hasn't lived up to them yet and is clearly feeling the pressure from fans, media, and management as well.

But to your first point: why can't we afford to put the player before the team? Regardless of the team's current performance, this year was more or less a rebuilding year. If there was ever a year to try and get your goalie going, it would be in the same year in which your starting lineup has 4-6 rookies coming in and out of the lineup with your top defenseman being lost for the year. Like it or not, this team is not posed to make a Cup run. Why not work out the kinks with the most important position in hockey (goalie) and be poised for a 2012-2013 cup run???
- steelydan

???

So Bob has it easier because nothing is expected of him?

And if Bryz couldn't take the shark tank, he should have stayed with the desert dogs
undue pressure?

this yr just might be a wash. it might take until nxt yr for him toadjust as it has for some other FAs. don't know who it was, but some ex-plyr - beezer or JR - cited some examples of goalies who took a whole season to adapt.
- isaiah520

it's happened to lots of other guys...but fans and seemingly the media in this town have no patience after 15 years of a goalie carousel and that's understandable.

this yr just might be a wash. it might take until nxt yr for him to adjust as it has for some other FAs. don't know who it was, but some ex-plyr - beezer or JR - cited some examples of goalies who took a whole season to adapt.
- isaiah520

The contract pretty much says he is the guy for the foreseeable future. And I really do think Bob is gone at the deadline or at the very least this off season. He is one guy the Flyers can deal from a position of strength.

Yep. And EVERY goal is a bad goal in many people opinions right now.
- MBFlyerfan

every goal is not considered a bad goal, the .89% is what's making him look bad

Yep. And EVERY goal is a bad goal in many people opinions right now.
- MBFlyerfan

that's true - just look at some of the dopey comments on other boards. he's getting ripped to shreds for everything that gets by him.

hahahahaha....the packers are pissing their 15-1 season right down the toilet.

every goal is not considered a bad goal, the .89% is what's making him look bad
- puckhead17

You are right, every goal isn't a bad goal. But you cant deny that there are a large contingent of fans who see it that way.

It's really a formula involving a lot of components. The Flyers have gone from being a decent defensive team, to being a poor defensive team, in the last month or so.
- MJL

and I think that's a formula that spells disaster for Bryzgalov considering he never showed he could play well behind a poor defensive team.

You are right, every goal isn't a bad goal. But you cant deny that there are a large contingent of fans who see it that way.
- MBFlyerfan

I wouldn't care if it was he or Tim Thomas here in Philly, no matter who came in here signing for a boatload of cash & performing subpar would hear it just the same regardless, (I believe)

hahahahaha....the packers are pissing their 15-1 season right down the toilet.
- hammarby31

Yea PLINd31 is gonna let us know all about it in an hour or so.

hahahahaha....the packers are pissing their 15-1 season right down the toilet.
- hammarby31

They sure are. And the fact that they're doing it against the Giants is making it worse (at least for me).

Not even a discussion on Jody Shelley could upset PLind right now.

The contract pretty much says he is the guy for the foreseeable future. And I really do think Bob is gone at the deadline or at the very least this off season. He is one guy the Flyers can deal from a position of strength.
- MBFlyerfan

well, in a dream world scenario, we could talk to Stevie Y or Snow...it's the stuff dreams are made of

They sure are. And the fact that they're doing it against the Giants is making it worse (at least for me).

- BringBack25

i don't hate the giants. just their fans - not plind of course. i really don't care that the giants are going to win this game. it's hilarious to me for some reason.

Not even a discussion on Jody Shelley could upset PLind right now.
- BoomGoesTheCoburn

god i hate the giants

I wouldn't care if it was he or Tim Thomas here in Philly, no matter who came in here signing for a boatload of cash & performing subpar would hear it just the same regardless, (I believe)
- puckhead17

Hey Puckhead, In Philly

You are right, every goal isn't a bad goal. But you cant deny that there are a large contingent of fans who see it that way.
- MBFlyerfan

Also here's another, I remember when John Vanbiesbrouk (spelled wrong I know), came in here for 2 years & they blasted him for that series loss against Toronto, (giving up 9 goals in 6 games?)

And he was a past all star, who only signed for 2 years, (or 3?)

Hey Puckhead, In Philly
- JoeRussomanno

No puckhead in Jersey

No puckhead in Jersey


- puckhead17

I never said Jersey....

god i hate the giants
- flyerscup2011

Hate or not, you have to respect what the Giants are doing right now. Completely manhandling what was thought to be the best team in the NFL - at home, with the refs in their pockets (maybe a bit of an exaggeration, but some of the calls today have been horrendous).

Also here's another, I remember when John Vanbiesbrouk (spelled wrong I know), came in here for 2 years & they blasted him for that series loss against Toronto, (giving up 9 goals in 6 games?)

And he was a past all star, who only signed for 2 years, (or 3?)
- puckhead17

OT short side goals will do that, fair or not...especially since he lost against cujo, who was the other big name goalie available in the offseason of 98.