He's been good in the KHL. I don't buy that he's some bonafied Kipper replacement.
- Brian Huddle

You're probably right .

Regardless of who won the trade ,Montreal needed Cami out of that dressing room !

Thats a load of cap space that can be gained in a flash...The Habs cap situating not near as bad as some make it out to be..
- Fruitcakenipple

I wonder if they have the guts to send him down next season.
They'll probably try everything before going the AHL route.

My wants? A PF and a real checking player.

I have confidence that goaltending will pick up. Surprisingly Reimer is like 16th in the NHL in ES Save%. It's his PK numbers that kill him. For him, it's about timing. He hasn't had the same reaction time he had pre-concussion.

I too believe the D will be fine, once they get some help from the forwards whoa re god awful in coming back to support.
- Brian Huddle

I don't think Reims is done by any means... But the Leafs are not good enough yet to win with average goaltending. I worry that Reimer and or Gus will not remove the Bad-goalness from their games in time for us to make the playoffs.

I feel bad for senstroll's dog...I hope he didn't kick him too hard...
- TheMike12

That game was horseSh!t, my dog deserved every bit of that kicking

No miracles coming from Burke this year...

He doesn't have the cap space to take on bad contracts and get a good prospect/player thrown in.

Even if the Leafs had the players or prospects to land a real #1 goalie or a #1 center... they can't take on the salary this year.

I'm not even sure I want Burke to make any major deals. We aren't going to contend anyway, let's not mortgage the future. The timing is not right.

I don't think Reims is done by any means... But the Leafs are not good enough yet to win with average goaltending. I worry that Reimer and or Gus will not remove the Bad-goalness from their games in time for us to make the playoffs.
- PTVinnyMac

I think cleaning up some defensive crap can help. How many times do we see a puck in the back of the net because a forward couldn't win a puck battle at the blueline/take a hit to get it out and the play went back down deep and in behind the tendy?

Even if the Leafs had the players or prospects to land a real #1 goalie or a #1 center... they can't take on the salary this year.

I'm not even sure I want Burke to make any major deals. We aren't going to contend anyway, let's not mortgage the future. The timing is not right.
- GoneFullRetard

Leafs can add something like 5.5 at the deadline. And if he needs more, I'm willing to bet he could find a way.

I don't think cap space is the issue.

Haven't bothered to read the tread but......the goal Spezza scored was a real piss off......watching him pin Riemers leg down with his skate and get the goal was maddening...........Both Riemer and gus appear to be solid back up goalies, 100% Burke will be adding a goaltender, Toronto will be Chasing FLA for the 8th spot the rest of the way, don't think they will catch NJ,Pitt, WAS, OTT, ..

That game was horseSh!t, my dog deserved every bit of that kicking
- senstroll

Using steel toed boots probably wasn't the best idea though.

Using steel toed boots probably wasn't the best idea though.
- AdamFrench

I don't think Reims is done by any means... But the Leafs are not good enough yet to win with average goaltending. I worry that Reimer and or Gus will not remove the Bad-goalness from their games in time for us to make the playoffs.
- PTVinnyMac

Reims is pretty bad. Read the scouting report, high glove all night long. It seems like he flips to his back hand with his glove all the time. He needs to work on that.

Reims is pretty bad. Read the scouting report, high glove all night long. It seems like he flips to his back hand with his glove all the time. He needs to work on that.
- Jordo

He tries to block with it, rather than catch. It's fixable. His game is a blocking, battling game. And when he's on he should be a .915 type tender. Nothing great, but passable.

I think cleaning up some defensive crap can help. How many times do we see a puck in the back of the net because a forward couldn't win a puck battle at the blueline/take a hit to get it out and the play went back down deep and in behind the tendy?
- Brian Huddle

Ya, you're right. I'm not saying that that doesn't happen either... But how many times after that hapens have we hung our head and said "He shoulda had that"

If Spezza sitting on Reimer injured us (Which it did game wise) then Turris broke the Leafs back. Everyone in a Leafs uniform thought Reimer shoulda had that third one and it reflected in the play after. The young team sagged. Sometimes you'll fight back from thos, most of the time not...

I am watching That's Hockey Tonight and Reimer said he was interfered with on the first two goals... That may be the case, but the first goal it was the Leafs getting a delayed penalty call for bowling over Turris and pushing him into Reimer. He should not be blaming Turris but should be blaming his own team mate.

The second goal he has a case for, but he was still out of position and the contact with Spezza came outside the crease. He should have recognized that the play was to his left. He didn't know where the puck was when it went off Daugs skate so no sympathy on that one either.
- riceroni

Spezza skated through the crease and both his skates are in the blue when the goal goes in, at least be honest, you got a goalie interference goal

Spezza skated through the crease and both his skates are in the blue when the goal goes in, at least be honest, you got a goalie interference goal
- senstroll

WHAT.....noooooo.....ok..maybe...

I'm legitimately interested to hear what the Leafs fans thought of Foligno's hit on Phaneuf.

To me, it looked like Phaneuf was coming in for the kill shot, and Foligno ducked under him. It didn't appear pre-meditated at all to me. But also to note is that Phaneuf left his feet- looks like he jumped towards him before the hit, which made it look ten times worse.

Given Marchand's recent suspension- I can understand the refs giving him a penalty (although I don't agree with it). I can't see him getting suspended though.

Leafs can add something like 5.5 at the deadline. And if he needs more, I'm willing to bet he could find a way.

I don't think cap space is the issue.
- Brian Huddle

In the off-season it won't be an issue for sure. I would look to the off-season for a trade.

This season is starting to smell like the typical Leafs-are-just-good-enough-to- get-a-poor-draft-pick type of year.

My wants? A PF and a real checking player.

I have confidence that goaltending will pick up. Surprisingly Reimer is like 16th in the NHL in ES Save%. It's his PK numbers that kill him. For him, it's about timing. He hasn't had the same reaction time he had pre-concussion.

I too believe the D will be fine, once they get some help from the forwards whoa re god awful in coming back to support.
- Brian Huddle

I agree. It seems entirely contradictatory. Burke claims to want truculence and builds a team that is just way too soft. I think the Phaneuf/Foligno battle highlights the depth of the problem. Why does the Leaf captain have to go to war with a third line skater for the Senators. The Senators can physically handle the Leafs without some of their bigger guys like Carkner, Neil or Smith even getting involved. I am not a fan of Burke, time for people to realize some grit really is essential.

I'm legitimately interested to hear what the Leafs fans thought of Foligno's hit on Phaneuf.

To me, it looked like Phaneuf was coming in for the kill shot, and Foligno ducked under him. It didn't appear pre-meditated at all to me. But also to note is that Phaneuf left his feet- looks like he jumped towards him before the hit, which made it look ten times worse.

Given Marchand's recent suspension- I can understand the refs giving him a penalty (although I don't agree with it). I can't see him getting suspended though.
- Jordo

I think it was a little low. A penalty was called and I was happy with that. Don't know whether I'd say it's suspendable, but if he doesn't get suspended I won't be upset. That being said, the instigastor call on Phaneuf for the fight later was pure stupidity.

I'm legitimately interested to hear what the Leafs fans thought of Foligno's hit on Phaneuf.

To me, it looked like Phaneuf was coming in for the kill shot, and Foligno ducked under him. It didn't appear pre-meditated at all to me. But also to note is that Phaneuf left his feet- looks like he jumped towards him before the hit, which made it look ten times worse.

Given Marchand's recent suspension- I can understand the refs giving him a penalty (although I don't agree with it). I can't see him getting suspended though.
- Jordo

The penalty should be the end of it, they fought over it and that should be the end.

Tough one to stomach.

I'll say it a thousand times... sick of seeing no forwards who will hit. I counted three last night who did-- Brown, Bozak and Lupul. Sad.

They really need some guys with some size to win puck battles at the blue line to get pucks out defensively, and guys who will come back deep and win puck battles to help the D out.
- Brian Huddle

frattin is sorely missed in that regard... but ya know.. since he wasnt scoring at a 30 goal pace he's a waste of a roster spot

rosehill mucked it up as well when he got on the ice.. give credit where its due

I'm legitimately interested to hear what the Leafs fans thought of Foligno's hit on Phaneuf.

To me, it looked like Phaneuf was coming in for the kill shot, and Foligno ducked under him. It didn't appear pre-meditated at all to me. But also to note is that Phaneuf left his feet- looks like he jumped towards him before the hit, which made it look ten times worse.

Given Marchand's recent suspension- I can understand the refs giving him a penalty (although I don't agree with it). I can't see him getting suspended though.
- Jordo

It was an illegal hit, in my opinion very cowardly... take the hit like a man.

Phanuef only left the ice (not his feet) because Foligno ducked, if he mans up and takes the hit, his feet stay planted

I'm legitimately interested to hear what the Leafs fans thought of Foligno's hit on Phaneuf.

To me, it looked like Phaneuf was coming in for the kill shot, and Foligno ducked under him. It didn't appear pre-meditated at all to me. But also to note is that Phaneuf left his feet- looks like he jumped towards him before the hit, which made it look ten times worse.

Given Marchand's recent suspension- I can understand the refs giving him a penalty (although I don't agree with it). I can't see him getting suspended though.
- Jordo

The "kill shot"? WTF are you talking about. Sorry, but I can't agree with the Sens-goggle's view. It was dirty and dangerous and INTENTIONAL and the Sens are making a habit of this against the Leafs because our team is too soft stick up for themselves.

The "kill shot"? WTF are you talking about. Sorry, but I can't agree with the Sens-goggle's view. It was dirty and dangerous and INTENTIONAL and the Sens are making a habit of this against the Leafs because our team is too soft stick up for themselves.
- GoneFullRetard

Haha, this is the exact response I expected from you.

It was an illegal hit, in my opinion very cowardly... take the hit like a man.

Phanuef only left the ice (not his feet) because Foligno ducked, if he mans up and takes the hit, his feet stay planted
- senstroll

nope. phaneuf faked it...

http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...012/01/17/grange_phaneuf/


this article isn't tooooo bias, i don't think...