As a person cheering for the otherside last night, I actually thought Kulemin was one of your best forwards. I haven't seen enough TO games but looks like there is actually 3 solid lines, however, that #1 center really is a requirement(Besides goaltending), no offence to Bozak.
Anyway you can pillage Staal and Ward from Carolina? - pugnacious.serf
As a person cheering for the otherside last night, I actually thought Kulemin was one of your best forwards. I haven't seen enough TO games but looks like there is actually 3 solid lines, however, that #1 center really is a requirement(Besides goaltending), no offence to Bozak.
Anyway you can pillage Staal and Ward from Carolina? - pugnacious.serf
He's JUST starting to break out again. He was lost for most of the season. Once he gets firing on all cylinders he should be a 25 goal guy with strength for the 2nd line... but boy did he have an abysmal start of the season.
People just seem to forget that a lot of the top guys play in top pairings. Chara has a shot blocking machine in Seidenberg and the best goalie in the world behind him.
Phaneuf has .900% goaltending and Keith Aulie. - Brian Huddle
Aulie I think will get better, but it may take several years to realize that. There are mumblings that Holzer has all the characteristics the Leafs could use right now, right down to the German-bumhole-mean-streak. Eliotte Friedman was saying there are a few teams scouting him that feel his ready for a shot at the NHL.
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Jan 18 @ 10:15 AM ET
He went after Foligno, but the refs broke it up.
Pissed me off. Just let them go, get it out of the way. - Brian Huddle
foligno wouldnt of fought tho.. you could see it in his face
he looked up aand saw who it was and backed off pretty damn quick.. rosehill could of gone after him but would of been ejected for instigating.. such a stupid rule
Aulie I think will get better, but it may take several years to realize that. There are mumblings that Holzer has all the characteristics the Leafs could use right now, right down to the German-bumhole-mean-streak. Eliotte Friedman was saying there are a few teams scouting him that feel his ready for a shot at the NHL. - p_zub
But with Holzer I think he's a 4-5 guy.
Aulie when he reaches his potential is still more 3-5 than a true #2.
If anyone's gonna be a #2 for him it's gonna have to be Schenn or Blacker, IMO. Those are the guys with that upside.
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Jan 18 @ 10:16 AM ET
Clean defensive hit. Those types of bailout hip checks are needed to slow things down and prevent concussions. You live by the sword and die by the sword. Phaneuf defended himself but it did nothing for his team, only one who seemed to get it was Burke and Brown. - stevecarpetman
lol you think that hit on Phaneuf was clean? the one from Foligno? actually?
Aulie I think will get better, but it may take several years to realize that. There are mumblings that Holzer has all the characteristics the Leafs could use right now, right down to the German-bumhole-mean-streak. Eliotte Friedman was saying there are a few teams scouting him that feel his ready for a shot at the NHL. - p_zub
He's very ready. The Marlies are a competitive team, and on a lot of nights, he's their best player. That D-core belongs to him. He'll deserve an NHL promotion sooner rather than later.
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Jan 18 @ 10:18 AM ET
Oh gawd..whats this kid doing here?
When you beat us in the playoffs then you can start yapping....right now you are 0 -4....hit the road. - Fakepartofme
Do you guys live in the past or what?
That was what, 8/9 years ago? You haven't been in the playoffs since, so you're making it pretty hard for us to do that.
If I was Brian Burke, I would be quietly sending video of Ottawa's second goal to the league office. The fact that referees are full-time employees, you'd think they would know the rules a little better, especially when it happens right in front of them.
That being said, the Leafs need to find a way to win these games, a few dirty goals would have done the trick.
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Jan 18 @ 10:19 AM ET
Do you guys live in the past or what?
That was what, 8/9 years ago? You haven't been in the playoffs since, so you're making it pretty hard for us to do that. - Jordo
have you been in? i recall you guys being in the same position as our poop team.
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Jan 18 @ 10:20 AM ET
If I was Brian Burke, I would be quietly sending video of Ottawa's second goal to the league office. The fact that referees are full-time employees, you'd think they would know the rules a little better, especially when it happens right in front of them.
That being said, the Leafs need to find a way to win these games, a few dirty goals would have done the trick. - Cimo
(frank) it lets start cross checking some teeth out and running the goalies.
nothing is dirty anymore - even racial slurs guys get no punishment, let the games begin
Agreed, more players get hurt trying to avoid a hit instead of absorbing a hit. Dion is lucky he didn't land on his head. The last thing the Leafs need is another injury to one of their top four D.Also, Gunnarsson was your leader with TOI last night. That should be an obvious problem. Tim Gleason would be a great fit in TO although I know there is a little "history" with Kulemin. - pugnacious.serf
You saw lots of these bailout hits in the 70's. They kept players honest. Dion tried to jump clear and miscalculated. You can not launch at someone and then stop. This move makes people think twice before launching. If you make players think before they act maybe their acts will change.
My big beef is with the fans that say the Leafs got out coached that Maclean is a better coach.
I worded it wrong. May bad - PTVinnyMac
alright, now that you changed it.....
Maclean is proving to be an excellent coach. Wilson is proving he is not able to push the right buttons to get consistency in his teams play on a regular basis. There is no tenacity in the Leafs game-the forecheck is non existent.
Wilson has simply run out of steam....it happens to many good coaches. Carlyle is a Cup winner without a job.
Not to mention, absolutely no way should Kadri be sat in favour of Rosehill. Kadris speed and skill could have been a difference maker, Rosehill's 5 minutes of ice time was an absolute waste.
Not sure if this has been brought up yet, but as Leaf fans aren't you pissed that Dion was so selfish as to fight Foligno in a game where they are leading 2-1? A super important game for a team fighting tooth and nail for the playoffs at that?
I mean it's not like Foligno is a heavyweight. Any number of Leaf players could have taken him on and made him accountable. Why did it have to be the captain and best Dman?
Ottawa will take that trade off every time.
Then, of course, it was Spezza's line the scored the tying goal with Dion in the box. Now the Sens were doing some line juggling last night, but you have to think that would have been Dion's matchup. Instead someone else is out there on D against the Sens #1 center and they get scored on.
And Brian Burke cheering Dion on from stands? I would think most GM's would be pissed if their all-star #1 D is taking on a guy on the other team's 3rd line in an important game they are up 2-1. I often wonder if Burke cares more about his 'image' than about the Leafs actually becoming a bona-fide contender.
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Jan 18 @ 10:23 AM ET
yup, Ottawa's bribery of the refs is better than toronto's bribery of the schedule makers.
Forget the fact that we play like half our games in back-to-back situations. - Schenn-Sational!
Trust me, if you've watched Ottawa at all this season, you'll know this isn't the case. We are the most penalized team in the league, and not anywhere close to the dirtiest.
foligno wouldnt of fought tho.. you could see it in his face
he looked up aand saw who it was and backed off pretty damn quick.. rosehill could of gone after him but would of been ejected for instigating.. such a stupid rule - Dozzer
You're right, Foligno probably wouldn't have fought Rosehill. But anyone near his weight class/fighting experience could have taken on Foligno. Surely, there must have been somone else on the bench (other than Phaneuf and Rosehill) who would have taken him on?
And let's be honest here. I wasn't like Foligno crosschecked someon in the face, or hit someon maliciously from behind. It wasn't the type of hit that you need to send out your goon to retaliate. Any player on the Leaf team would have sufficed.
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Jan 18 @ 10:25 AM ET
Not sure if this has been brought up yet, but as Leaf fans aren't you pissed that Dion was so selfish as to fight Foligno in a game where they are leading 2-1? A super important game for a team fighting tooth and nail for the playoffs at that?
I mean it's not like Foligno is a heavyweight. Any number of Leaf players could have taken him on and made him accountable. Why did it have to be the captain and best Dman?
Ottawa will take that trade off every time.
Then, of course, it was Spezza's line the scored the tying goal with Dion in the box. Now the Sens were doing some line juggling last night, but you have to think that would have been Dion's matchup. Instead someone else is out there on D against the Sens #1 center and they get scored on.
And Brian Burke cheering Dion on from stands? I would think most GM's would be pissed if their all-star #1 D is taking on a guy on the other team's 3rd line in an important game they are up 2-1. I often wonder if Burke cares more about his 'image' than about the Leafs actually becoming a bona-fide contender. - Charliebox
what was the penalty for on Dion, nobody knows.
2 minutes for fighting a guy who cheap shotted you, yeah, im ok with dion taking the 2 minutes considering Spezza was standing in the crease on top of Reimer causing interference, if the refs had any clue how the game works.
A. they would have not called a penalty on phaneuf for fighting after being cheap shotted.
B. they would have called the penalty on Spezza for goaltender interference.
all in all, im glad dion went and faught foligno and i hope that he is targetted every time we play the leafs and we make him bleed from the ears.
Not sure if this has been brought up yet, but as Leaf fans aren't you pissed that Dion was so selfish as to fight Foligno in a game where they are leading 2-1? A super important game for a team fighting tooth and nail for the playoffs at that?
I mean it's not like Foligno is a heavyweight. Any number of Leaf players could have taken him on and made him accountable. Why did it have to be the captain and best Dman?
- Charliebox
No.
Rosehill tried stepping up and the refs stopped it. As the Captain he leads by example, and finishing his beef is just part of the game. If someone kills Kessel with a dirty hit, you're damn right I want Dion jumping in... that's part of his game. No more of this B.S. pansy hockey where you walk away.
Scrivens has better mobility and reflexes to Reimer. I'm just not sure where things are between the head for him. - Brian Huddle
Scrivens is more sound as was displayed in his Columbus game, but I think he still thinks of himself as a kid which can effect his confidence and allow him to blame himself. Toronto media circus doesn't help that.
