That's Laviolette fault, if it's really a fault at all.
- Schenn2shine

Exactly. That's the point I was trying to make. The Flyers signed a goon in the off season but now the coach doesn't want to use him for the intended purpose. So either Lava is trying to send Homer a subtle message or he is truly taking the high road in regards to liberties taken on his players. I'm confused either way. Waste of a contract. Waste of a roster spot.

Exactly. That's the point I was trying to make. The Flyers signed a goon in the off season but now the coach doesn't want to use him for the intended purpose. So either Lava is trying to send Homer a subtle message or he is truly taking the high road in regards to liberties taken on his players. I'm confused either way. Waste of a contract. Waste of a roster spot.
- rockychocbill

I assume the high road. Laviolette normally takes this route but this isn't to say you're dead wrong. Laviolette doesn't throw his players under the bus or a war of words with coaches and players from other teams.

Exactly. That's the point I was trying to make. The Flyers signed a goon in the off season but now the coach doesn't want to use him for the intended purpose. So either Lava is trying to send Homer a subtle message or he is truly taking the high road in regards to liberties taken on his players. I'm confused either way. Waste of a contract. Waste of a roster spot.
- rockychocbill

Laviolette did put him out at the end of the game with Clutterbuck. Cluttrbuck got pulled off. I think Cluttrbuck taking liberties is being exaggerated somewhat. If Laviolette felt like his players were being abused, he would of acted sooner on it. The Coaches mind was on winning the game, and rightfully so.

Still?

Shelley and Clutterbuck were never on the ice together in the 3rd period. In fact there was one shift where Clutterbuck started his shift with 2:53 left in the 3rd. There was a stoppage of play, at 2:45 left. Shelley was put out by Laviolette. Conveniently for Clutterbuck, his Coach pulled him off the ice. That's an 8 second shift for Clutterbuck. Awful short for some reason. Shelley can't control when he's on the ice, or what the other Coach does. As as I posted earlier, Clutterbuck has had 5 fights in his NHL career, and hasn't fought since the 09/10 Season. I haven't seen a lot of Clutterbucks games, but that means one of two things. Either he's a clean hitter, so he doesn't get into a lot of issues as far as fighting. Or he's not willing to fight and answer challenges. The game has changed. A player can run around and not have to answer for it. Blame Shelley all you want. But it's misinformed.

And once Clutterbuck went off the ice with 2:45 left, Clutterbuck never got another shift. But Shelley did. So maybe, there was a deterrant there?

So it appears to me that S2S opinion is being contradicted, but it seems as he's the one who has it right here.
- MJL

Well I suppose if the entire board agrees on one opinion, that one opinion is correct.

Either way, thank you for pointing this out and it wasn't just my opinion. You're the one and only person who was willing to see where I was coming. Again, thanks.

Still?
- funmaster18

It's been going on as long as Shelley has been a Flyers. Not going to change anytime soon. I almost wish the Flyers would just be done with it.

Laviolette did put him out at the end of the game with Clutterbuck. Cluttrbuck got pulled off. I think Cluttrbuck taking liberties is being exaggerated somewhat. If Laviolette felt like his players were being abused, he would of acted sooner on it. The Coaches mind was on winning the game, and rightfully so.
- MJL

I'll have to take your word for it, as I was attending another game and didn't see anything past the first 10 minutes. You did post the shift information earlier so if Lava sent out Shelley and ClutterSeveralli tip toed to the bench, then I retract my earlier statement re: Lava. But I still think we could have done much better than Shelley in the off season. That opinion will NEVER change.

It's been going on as long as Shelley has been a Flyers. Not going to change anytime soon. I almost wish the Flyers would just be done with.
- MJL

+1

Exactly. That's the point I was trying to make. The Flyers signed a goon in the off season but now the coach doesn't want to use him for the intended purpose. So either Lava is trying to send Homer a subtle message or he is truly taking the high road in regards to liberties taken on his players. I'm confused either way. Waste of a contract. Waste of a roster spot.
- rockychocbill

Seravelli?

Seravelli?
- MBFlyerfan

mos def

I'll have to take your word for it, as I was attending another game and didn't see anything past the first 10 minutes. You did post the shift information earlier so if Lava sent out Shelley and ClutterSeveralli tip toed to the bench, then I retract my earlier statement re: Lava. But I still think we could have done much better than Shelley in the off season. That opinion will NEVER change.
- rockychocbill

You know, I have never challenged anyone's opinion that stated that an enforcer is not needed, and the Flyers should use that spot differently. With how things are moving in the League, that is a completely legitimate opinion. I've only stood up and offered my opinion when I read that Shelley can't play in the NHL in a 4th line role, or that he sucks. Because that's obviously not true. He showed that last night, and in being in the NHL for a decade.

You know, I have never challenged anyone's opinion that stated that an enforcer is not needed, and the Flyers should use that spot differently. With how things are moving in the League, that is a completely legitimate opinion. I've only stood up and offered my opinion when I read that Shelley can't play in the NHL in a 4th line role, or that he sucks. Because that's obviously not true. He showed that last night, and in being in the NHL for a decade.
- MJL

I completely agree. Don't want him on the team but he's capable of playing in the NHL on a 4th line role. I just wouldn't sign him, especially for what he's making.

Any new rumors today??

Any new rumors today??
- griouxmvp2012

It's only a matter of time!

You know, I have never challenged anyone's opinion that stated that an enforcer is not needed, and the Flyers should use that spot differently. With how things are moving in the League, that is a completely legitimate opinion. I've only stood up and offered my opinion when I read that Shelley can't play in the NHL in a 4th line role, or that he sucks. Because that's obviously not true. He showed that last night, and in being in the NHL for a decade.
- MJL

I know you haven't. I just wish he was playing 4th line for a different team is all.

It's only a matter of time!
- MJL

Lol I cant take it no more all this speculation in the past week and still no move

Changing gears, I thhink Gus has looked good overall since coming back.

Lol I cant take it no more all this speculation in the past week and still no move
- griouxmvp2012

Well, you'll always have speculation. You won't always have a move.

Lol I cant take it no more all this speculation in the past week and still no move
- griouxmvp2012

Don't worry about it. Stamkos will be filling the net for the O&B any day now.

Changing gears, I thhink Gus has looked good overall since coming back.
- funmaster18

He's gotten better since his first game progressively. He size scares me though. He makes Timonen and Carle look big.

Don't worry about it. Stamkos will be filling the net for the O&B any day now.
- MJL

Well I know that's not true

Well I know that's not true
- griouxmvp2012

I guess you haven't heard the latest then?

Exactly. That's the point I was trying to make. The Flyers signed a goon in the off season but now the coach doesn't want to use him for the intended purpose. So either Lava is trying to send Homer a subtle message or he is truly taking the high road in regards to liberties taken on his players. I'm confused either way. Waste of a contract. Waste of a roster spot.
- rockychocbill

Well he can't fully serve his purpose because nobody wants to or cares to fight him. He doesn't need to be here, they've done very well without him in the lineup.

He's gotten better since his first game progressively. He size scares me though. He makes Timonen and Carle look big.
- MJL

I know! But he's a great depth guy to have. I'm anxious to see what the flyers do, if anything, to bolster the blue line.

I guess you haven't heard the latest then?
- MJL

Don't need to cuz I know it's false