rivers, despite a rough year
- FlyerMike18

You know I almost ripped his Fathead off my man cave wall this season.

More than once.

....And players health is the worse because of it. The NHL is surely in a tough spot when it comes to this subject.

The NHL can only react after the fact. Players on the ice can act immediately, and even better, act to prevent such things in the first place...but the rules just don't allow it anymore.
- MBFlyerfan

That's why i think we'll see it swing back in the other direction a little bit. Not like the broad street bully days but they can start with throwing out the instigator penalty.

That's why i think we'll see it swing back in the other direction a little bit. Not like the broad street bully days but they can start with throwing out the instigator penalty.
- JoeRussomanno

I think removing the instigator would be enough. Then Shanahan could police the guys who show blatant lack of respect for other players. And isn't that what this really is about, the lack of respect many of these players seem to have for each other?

That's why i think we'll see it swing back in the other direction a little bit. Not like the broad street bully days but they can start with throwing out the instigator penalty.
- JoeRussomanno

if they throw out the instigator penalty, do you think we will see more instances of guys throwing legal checks and then having to fight another guy or less?

if they throw out the instigator penalty, do you think we will see more instances of guys throwing legal checks and then having to fight another guy or less?
- wilsonecho91

I think that nonsense is something Shanny can do something about. You don't want guys taking runs at people, but on the flip side, I hate seeing a guy throw a good clean check and them having someone try to fight him. And it seems that this kind of thing has increased a lot since the instigator rule was put in.

It strikes me as cowardly.

B/c that's exactly what the other team is doing with Clutterbuck. They wanna dance around the big guys and take shots at everyone else then you send your big guys against who they leave out there.
- JoeRussomanno

Why risk a suspension on another unsuspecting player because your mad at another player?

I think that nonsense is something Shanny can do something about. You don't want guys taking runs at people, but on the flip side, I hate seeing a guy throw a good clean check and them having someone try to fight him. And it seems that this kind of thing has increased a lot since the instigator rule was put in.

It strikes me as cowardly.
- MBFlyerfan

yeah, there's a fine line there. I don't like it either. But if you take out the instigator, will you see even more of it? that would seem to be counterproductive.

For the most part I had problem with the way Clutterbuck played last night. He threw a lot of good checks.

But....he did run some guys, In my opinion that is when a player skates a long way across the ice to deliver a hit that has no bearing on the play.

That is when the team needs to take care of it.

For the most part I had problem with the way Clutterbuck played last night. He threw a lot of good checks.

But....he did run some guys, In my opinion that is when a player skates a long way across the ice to deliver a hit that has no bearing on the play.

That is when the team needs to take care of it.
- MBFlyerfan

yeah, there's a fine line there. I don't like it either. But if you take out the instigator, will you see even more of it? that would seem to be counterproductive.
- wilsonecho91

I dont know. You would think the players would know the difference. But over the past few years, as respect has gotten lower and lower.......

It didn't seem like that was a regular thing before the instigator was put in to place.

if they throw out the instigator penalty, do you think we will see more instances of guys throwing legal checks and then having to fight another guy or less?
- wilsonecho91

probably more, but so what? get your fight game up then. Besides you can only get in so many fights before they throw you out of the game.

You got me on that one. Some Muppets movie?

- rockychocbill

probably leight by now, but these are from the short spoof film "hardware wars". it was on showtime between features a bunch back in the late 70s/early 80s. fantastic. i have it on vhs. i'm sure you can find clips on youtube if you're curious.

Why risk a suspension on another unsuspecting player because your mad at another player?
- Schenn2shine

WHy is anyone risking a suspension? Furthermore, if shelley is suspended no one is missing him.

WHy is anyone risking a suspension? Furthermore, if shelley is suspended no one is missing him.
- JoeRussomanno

Coaches are fined for what you are asking.

probably leight by now, but these are from the short spoof film "hardware wars". it was on showtime between features a bunch back in the late 70s/early 80s. fantastic. i have it on vhs. i'm sure you can find clips on youtube if you're curious.
- hammarby31

speaking of which, what was the name of that short that "Josh, you asleep" came from? i just remember a pile of leaves.

- Schenn2shine

good

Coaches are fined for what you are asking.
- Schenn2shine

oh no don't fine me 25k out of my 5 mil a year salary. And when was the last time that happened?

probably leight by now, but these are from the short spoof film "hardware wars". it was on showtime between features a bunch back in the late 70s/early 80s. fantastic. i have it on vhs. i'm sure you can find clips on youtube if you're curious.
- hammarby31

Not leight. Never heard of it. Until now.

oh no don't fine me 25k out of my 5 mil a year salary. And when was the last time that happened?
- JoeRussomanno

So that's a crazy idea to you? Throw away money for a meaningless move? As crazy as this sounds, the rich would like to stay rich.

- Schenn2shine

1:14 of that clip is priceless. I remember watching that game.

Who's better? Mike Vick or Philip Rivers.
- rockychocbill

For the most part I had problem with the way Clutterbuck played last night. He threw a lot of good checks.

But....he did run some guys, In my opinion that is when a player skates a long way across the ice to deliver a hit that has no bearing on the play.

That is when the team needs to take care of it.
- MBFlyerfan

As long as it's not a blindside and/or targeted hit to the head I have no problem with it either. S2S probably posted the best example of it with the Seabrook clip.

So that's a crazy idea to you? Throw away money for a meaningless move? As crazy as this sounds, the rich would like to stay rich.
- Schenn2shine

okay the conversation run its course, when we have to grasp at straws such as contemplating what the rich want to do.

- hammarby31

WTSerevalli was that?

Did Shelley fight Clutterbuck today? I hope he sent him a nice text and settled this issue from last night.

Anything new?