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kingbrehm
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Ferguson
Joined: 01.16.2011

Jan 19 @ 4:22 PM ET
well, seeing as how i can do that move i am pretty sure it takes more than that to be on the top line, that being said, the dude is absolutely insanely fast out there, could def move up from the fourth line and get more minutes to create havok to for the other team on the for check, definitely worthy of more minutes than he has been getting all year long
- ruttager17


Yeah I can pull that move off in my beer league too, just not against the Dallas Stars.

Eager needs more like 10-12 minutes a game instead of the 4-5 he has been getting at times this year.
GuyLaDouche
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hockeybuzz is against breast e
Joined: 04.30.2011

Jan 19 @ 4:25 PM ET
Yeah I can pull that move off in my beer league too, just not against the Dallas Stars.

Eager needs more like 10-12 minutes a game instead of the 4-5 he has been getting at times this year.

- kingbrehm

agreed. he has outproduced guys that for some mysterious reason are continuing to get a lot of minutes. Intangibles or not, if a guys producing he should be rewarded, not punished.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jan 19 @ 4:26 PM ET
Barker re-signing who the (frank) made that bullpoop up?
Zombie
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Canada, AB
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jan 19 @ 4:26 PM ET
don't think anyone ever said that. think back to all the previous winners. how many didn't have a dominant center?

frankly, id rather see a package where they trade down to get an extra 1st rounder and get more defensive help.

- GuyLaDouche


Bruins don't have a dominant center
GuyLaDouche
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hockeybuzz is against breast e
Joined: 04.30.2011

Jan 19 @ 4:27 PM ET
Bruins don't have a dominant center
- Zombie

They have Krejci and Bergeron and now Seguin, who leads them in points this year. Maybe not one of them is truly dominant, but come on man. You're splitting hairs. They have centers most other teams would kill for.
GuyLaDouche
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hockeybuzz is against breast e
Joined: 04.30.2011

Jan 19 @ 4:29 PM ET
Bruins don't have a dominant center
- Zombie

Let me put it this way: their 4th line center has 6 less points than our best.
Pilgor09
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Planet Zontar
Joined: 06.03.2010

Jan 19 @ 4:30 PM ET
don't think anyone ever said that. think back to all the previous winners. how many didn't have a dominant center?

frankly, id rather see a package where they trade down to get an extra 1st rounder and get more defensive help.

- GuyLaDouche

Boston didn't.

And as soon as a team wins a cup people suddenly overate the players.

Detroit won with Datsyuk and Filpulla as there centers. Sakic and Tanguay. Krejci and Bergeron. Toews and Bolland.

Sj have been busts with Thorton, Couture and Pavelski. That is arguably the strongest tandem of centers in the league.

New Jersey was winning with Scott Gomez as there #1 center....
Pilgor09
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Planet Zontar
Joined: 06.03.2010

Jan 19 @ 4:32 PM ET
Barker re-signing who the (frank) made that bullpoop up?
- Lahey

Richard.
GuyLaDouche
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hockeybuzz is against breast e
Joined: 04.30.2011

Jan 19 @ 4:35 PM ET
Boston didn't.

And as soon as a team wins a cup people suddenly overate the players.

Detroit won with Datsyuk and Filpulla as there centers. Sakic and Tanguay. Krejci and Bergeron. Toews and Bolland.

Sj have been busts with Thorton, Couture and Pavelski. That is arguably the strongest tandem of centers in the league.

New Jersey was winning with Scott Gomez as there #1 center....

- Pilgor09

I addressed this above.

Datsyuk??? He's arguably the best player in the (frank)ing league.

Sakic?? He's not dominant?

Thornton? Different ball of wax. Not dominant at all in the playoffs. Boston traded him for a reason.

NJ also had a guy named Patrick Elias. Maybe you've heard of him?

Come one man. Why even argue this? You're not gonna win a Cup without at least ONE great center. I never said two. You're the one who brought that up.

EDIT: Detroit. yeah, they had another center for a while. What was that guys name...
jeremyn
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 02.09.2011

Jan 19 @ 4:36 PM ET
Okay, didn't see anybody do this, so lets see why it all points to Pronger:

It's been since 2009 since a current oiler has passed the 43 point plateau (the dreaded #44 unattainable thanks to #44 Pronger). Hemsky and Horcoff both got more. Souray was the other...but not current. Penner did it in 09-10, but again, not a current oiler.

Souray: #44, has one good year, then injuries amount and whines about management making one of the oilers top D since Pronger non-existant.

Last year, any time anyone got near it, or on pace to pass it, they got injured.

This year, Eberle gets injured when stuck on 43 points. Nuge and Hall also on pace to pass it also get injured.

This year, Corey Potter...#44, slices up Taylor Hall when he is on fire to put him out for an unknown amount of time.

Seems like something out of a Final Destination Movie or something.
kingbrehm
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Ferguson
Joined: 01.16.2011

Jan 19 @ 4:37 PM ET
I addressed this above.

Datsyuk??? He's arguably the best player in the (frank)ing league.

Sakic?? He's not dominant?

Thornton? Different ball of wax. Not dominant at all in the playoffs. Boston traded him for a reason.

NJ also had a guy named Patrick Elias. Maybe you've heard of him?

Come one man. Why even argue this? You're not gonna win a Cup without at least ONE great center. I never said two. You're the one who brought that up.

EDIT: Detroit. yeah, they had another center for a while. What was that guys name...

- GuyLaDouche


RNH is a good start
kingbrehm
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Ferguson
Joined: 01.16.2011

Jan 19 @ 4:39 PM ET
Okay, didn't see anybody do this, so lets see why it all points to Pronger:

It's been since 2009 since a current oiler has passed the 43 point plateau (the dreaded #44 unattainable thanks to #44 Pronger). Hemsky and Horcoff both got more. Souray was the other...but not current. Penner did it in 09-10, but again, not a current oiler.

Souray: #44, has one good year, then injuries amount and whines about management making one of the oilers top D since Pronger non-existant.

Last year, any time anyone got near it, or on pace to pass it, they got injured.

This year, Eberle gets injured when stuck on 43 points. Nuge and Hall also on pace to pass it also get injured.

This year, Corey Potter...#44, slices up Taylor Hall when he is on fire to put him out for an unknown amount of time.

Seems like something out of a Final Destination Movie or something.

- jeremyn


And Theo Peckham (#24) (frank)ed Eric Belanger (#20) in the ass which is the true injury Belanger has... and #24 + #20 = #44.
GuyLaDouche
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hockeybuzz is against breast e
Joined: 04.30.2011

Jan 19 @ 4:44 PM ET
RNH is a good start
- kingbrehm

I agree. He looks special. Thing is if they have the chance to grab one that's highly skilled and also big, why not? If anything, he could be traded down the road to grab that last missing link: ie a true #1 dman.
Pilgor09
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Planet Zontar
Joined: 06.03.2010

Jan 19 @ 4:44 PM ET
I addressed this above.

Datsyuk??? He's arguably the best player in the (frank)ing league.

Sakic?? He's not dominant?

Thornton? Different ball of wax. Not dominant at all in the playoffs. Boston traded him for a reason.

NJ also had a guy named Patrick Elias. Maybe you've heard of him?

Come one man. Why even argue this? You're not gonna win a Cup without at least ONE great center. I never said two. You're the one who brought that up.

EDIT: Detroit. yeah, they had another center for a while. What was that guys name...

- GuyLaDouche

My point was you only need 1 dominant centre. We have Rnh. Draft the best player available
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jan 19 @ 4:47 PM ET
My point was you only need 1 dominant centre. We have Rnh. Draft the best player available
- Pilgor09

You also said a black man could drive a zombani
Fotiu666
Calgary Flames
Location: Personal Trainers hate me., AB
Joined: 06.28.2006

Jan 19 @ 4:48 PM ET
I think it's a good sign for Oilers fans that Hall has embraced the city and gone for the "Edmonton Look".

(Seriously that injury is scary though, and I do like Hall)
GuyLaDouche
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hockeybuzz is against breast e
Joined: 04.30.2011

Jan 19 @ 4:51 PM ET
My point was you only need 1 dominant centre. We have Rnh. Draft the best player available
- Pilgor09

Mine too. I never said it had to be two.

The only thing I wonder is..is Yakupov truly that player though? Looked like it through the 1st part of the season but, I wonder. I also think we're at the point where BPA may start to take passenger seat against drafting for positional needs. Oilers need some size up front. No question about it. They get pushed around a lot.

If Yakupov goes to the Jackets, which it looks like he may well, then do you take Grig?
Zombie
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Canada, AB
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jan 19 @ 4:52 PM ET
They have Krejci and Bergeron and now Seguin, who leads them in points this year. Maybe not one of them is truly dominant, but come on man. You're splitting hairs. They have centers most other teams would kill for.
- GuyLaDouche


Krejci and Bergeron are solid, but real no better then Horcoff from his prime.

Theirs no secret formula to winning a cup (ie this many good players in this specific position). You, need as many good/great players as possbile + solid depth + lots of luck.
Killbot460
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Compton, AB
Joined: 08.06.2010

Jan 19 @ 4:52 PM ET
My point was you only need 1 dominant centre. We have Rnh. Draft the best player available
- Pilgor09


if the oilers had RNH, Hall, Eberle, Yakupov in the top 6 i would have the biggest boner in the world
Killbot460
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Compton, AB
Joined: 08.06.2010

Jan 19 @ 4:54 PM ET
Krejci and Bergeron are solid, but real no better then Horcoff from his prime.

Theirs no secret formula to winning a cup (ie this many good players in this specific position). You, need as many good/great players as possbile + solid depth + lots of luck.

- Zombie


you need depth for sure, Imo you need a big and fast team now days, but mostly great defence and your tendy has to play on his head the whole playoffs
GuyLaDouche
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hockeybuzz is against breast e
Joined: 04.30.2011

Jan 19 @ 4:55 PM ET
Krejci and Bergeron are solid, but real no better then Horcoff from his prime.

Theirs no secret formula to winning a cup (ie this many good players in this specific position). You, need as many good/great players as possbile + solid depth + lots of luck.

- Zombie

I would argue either is better than Horc has ever been and just as responsible defensively. I would take either over Horc in a heartbeat. and Seguin looks like the real deal. Boston has center depth we can only dream about.

and why does everyone keep bringing up the number? I said ONE great center. I never said anything about needing two.
Killbot460
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Compton, AB
Joined: 08.06.2010

Jan 19 @ 4:56 PM ET
Mine too. I never said it had to be two.

The only thing I wonder is..is Yakupov truly that player though? Looked like it through the 1st part of the season but, I wonder. I also think we're at the point where BPA may start to take passenger seat against drafting for positional needs. Oilers need some size up front. No question about it. They get pushed around a lot.

If Yakupov goes to the Jackets, which it looks like he may well, then do you take Grig?

- GuyLaDouche


The oilers could be in trouble if they don't add size in the top 6... look at all the teams that do well in the playoffs last few years, they had some size.

i would take the best player thats left if we have a top 3 pick
Copper n Blue
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Omicron Persei 8
Joined: 11.04.2006

Jan 19 @ 4:58 PM ET
For it being a very big, ugly scar, it does look like the docs did a great job sewing it up.
- Maxbone


It looks a hell of a lot better than the gnarly scar I have down my entire arm. (bad mountain bike accident) I'm guessing, based on the photo, that discoloring won't even be too bad. They did nice, tight stitching which will reduce scaring a lot. That photo gives me the heeby jeeby's. That's way to close to the eye.
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jan 19 @ 4:58 PM ET
Mine too. I never said it had to be two.

The only thing I wonder is..is Yakupov truly that player though? Looked like it through the 1st part of the season but, I wonder. I also think we're at the point where BPA may start to take passenger seat against drafting for positional needs. Oilers need some size up front. No question about it. They get pushed around a lot.

If Yakupov goes to the Jackets, which it looks like he may well, then do you take Grig?

- GuyLaDouche


Yes, take Grigorenko if we hypothetically pick 2nd and he is the BPA. Then we trade Paajarvi and our 2nd rounder for another 1st rounder and that teams 2nd rounder. Take a Dman then.

Boom.

But for real, I think drafting for positional need isn't smart. You don't take Cam Barker first overall when Oveckin and Malkin are on the board if you need D.
jeremyn
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 02.09.2011

Jan 19 @ 4:58 PM ET
And Theo Peckham (#24) (frank)ed Eric Belanger (#20) in the ass which is the true injury Belanger has... and #24 + #20 = #44.
- kingbrehm


Quick, someone with a Pronger jersey, go into the Oilers Dressing Room and burn it.

Something has to end the curse.

I swear to god if Eberle gets hurt tonight, I'll hunt him down myself.
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