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docmorgan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: stall, Crosby, perry Giroux, T, BC
Joined: 01.06.2011

Jan 19 @ 8:00 PM ET
So what you're saying is you don't know how it's going to work out?
- whipper334

That's a definite maybe.
immature_male
Vancouver Canucks
Location: delta, BC
Joined: 06.15.2011

Jan 19 @ 8:07 PM ET
I have no clue who you guys are shopping or willing to trade. I have no interest in Schroeder.
- NoobasaurusRex

everyone on here always suggests ballard or raymond. i would give you almost anyone off of bottm 6, except lappy and hansen. defense you could have alberts or sulzer, or rome if throwing in fistric.

to van: Morrow and Fistric
to dal: malhotra, rome, raymond and someone off wolves or a 2/3 rd pick
NoobasaurusRex
Dallas Stars
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.18.2011

Jan 19 @ 8:13 PM ET
everyone on here always suggests ballard or raymond. i would give you almost anyone off of bottm 6, except lappy and hansen. defense you could have alberts or sulzer, or rome if throwing in fistric.

to van: Morrow and Fistric
to dal: malhotra, rome, raymond and someone off wolves or a 2/3 rd pick

- immature_male


Morrow can fetch a lot more than Raymond and some plugs.

The deal would need hodgson and tanev involved for sure. Plus Raymond.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Jan 19 @ 8:39 PM ET
Morrow can fetch a lot more than Raymond and some plugs.

The deal would need hodgson and tanev involved for sure. Plus Raymond.

- NoobasaurusRex


Than that would be a definite "no," unless the Stars threw another player in.

I know it's not all about point production, and that Morrow brings certain intangibles other than just points, but Hodgson is producing as well as Morrow currently is, as a rookie, and is looking like a future captain.

I understand it would take a lot to get the Stars to trade their captain, and I doubt Gagliardi (sp.?) wants to do Aquilini any favours anyway.
NoobasaurusRex
Dallas Stars
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.18.2011

Jan 19 @ 8:46 PM ET
Than that would be a definite "no," unless the Stars threw another player in.

I know it's not all about point production, and that Morrow brings certain intangibles other than just points, but Hodgson is producing as well as Morrow currently is, as a rookie, and is looking like a future captain.

I understand it would take a lot to get the Stars to trade their captain, and I doubt Gagliardi (sp.?) wants to do Aquilini any favours anyway.

- Fosco


I was still including one of our d men. Fistric, robidas or grossman. I know morrow hasn't had a great stats year, but playing with the sedins I think would bring him back to 30 goals a year. But like you said I highly doubt we trade our captian, especially to van.
Boinker
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.24.2010

Jan 19 @ 8:51 PM ET
Morrow can fetch a lot more than Raymond and some plugs.

The deal would need hodgson and tanev involved for sure. Plus Raymond.

- NoobasaurusRex


I wouldn't trade Hodgson for Morrow straight up in a million years let alone throwing in our best defensive prospect. If the world was going to end after this season than i might think about it. In two years Hodgson will be ten times more valuable. He's already producing more points and he's getting third line minutes. If Hodgson were on a different team he'd be getting top 6 minutes and probably leading all rookies in scoring. Not to mention his work ethic and love for the game is off the charts. Future captain. I understand what Morrow brings to the table but come on...you can't teach what Hodgson brings and that's what makes him so valuable.
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 19 @ 8:53 PM ET
Morrow can fetch a lot more than Raymond and some plugs.

The deal would need hodgson and tanev involved for sure. Plus Raymond.

- NoobasaurusRex


Make that for Loui Eriksson and Adam Burich and you might have a deal.
NoobasaurusRex
Dallas Stars
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.18.2011

Jan 19 @ 9:00 PM ET
I wouldn't trade Hodgson for Morrow straight up in a million years let alone throwing in our best defensive prospect. If the world was going to end after this season than i might think about it. In two years Hodgson will be ten times more valuable. He's already producing more points and he's getting third line minutes. If Hodgson were on a different team he'd be getting top 6 minutes and probably leading all rookies in scoring. Not to mention his work ethic and love for the game is off the charts. Future captain. I understand what Morrow brings to the table but come on...you can't teach what Hodgson brings and that's what makes him so valuable.
- Boinker


I already stated above the deal we were talking about included a d man. But its whatever I just think morrow is an all around player and leader. Worth more than a 1 dimensional fwd and some plugs. Look at what Penner got last year, a 1st and a top d prospect. Are you saying that Penner is worth more than morrow? Tanev and hodgson isn't a bad deal, just not what you guys are willing to part with. Any team that wants him will have to over pay a bit, that's just how it works.
NoobasaurusRex
Dallas Stars
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.18.2011

Jan 19 @ 9:06 PM ET
Look at the mike Richards trade, him and morrow are almost identical players. LA gave up the top prospect in the league at the time, simmonds and a 2nd.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Jan 19 @ 9:31 PM ET
Look at the mike Richards trade, him and morrow are almost identical players. LA gave up the top prospect in the league at the time, simmonds and a 2nd.
- NoobasaurusRex


Similar style of play, but Richards is 6 years younger, and has is .76 points/game over his career, where Morrow is .65 over his.

Teams may have to overpay if they want Morrow, but don't expect a similar return to what Philadelphia got for Richards.

L.A. simply payed way too much for Penner.
Boinker
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.24.2010

Jan 19 @ 9:33 PM ET
Look at the mike Richards trade, him and morrow are almost identical players. LA gave up the top prospect in the league at the time, simmonds and a 2nd.
- NoobasaurusRex


Mike Richards has a lot more value than Morrow. Age difference alone. Richards is more skilled anyways and IMO is better defensively. Morrow has more grit and arguably better leadership skills but in no way should Morrow be compared to Richards. Morrow is on a downhill slope in his career whereas Richards is in his prime for another five years.
Boinker
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.24.2010

Jan 19 @ 9:35 PM ET
I already stated above the deal we were talking about included a d man. But its whatever I just think morrow is an all around player and leader. Worth more than a 1 dimensional fwd and some plugs. Look at what Penner got last year, a 1st and a top d prospect. Are you saying that Penner is worth more than morrow? Tanev and hodgson isn't a bad deal, just not what you guys are willing to part with. Any team that wants him will have to over pay a bit, that's just how it works.
- NoobasaurusRex


Are you talking about Hodgson as a one dimensional forward? I think you need to watch more hockey other than the Stars. If he had a more explosive stride he'd be a superstar right this instance. He'll eventually get there but it'll take a few years.
NoobasaurusRex
Dallas Stars
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.18.2011

Jan 19 @ 9:46 PM ET
Are you talking about Hodgson as a one dimensional forward? I think you need to watch more hockey other than the Stars. If he had a more explosive stride he'd be a superstar right this instance. He'll eventually get there but it'll take a few years.
- Boinker


Talking about Raymond, yea he's fast and can pk, but not much else other than around 20 goals. And once again i was including I dman in the deal.
To van: morrow, Burish, robidas and a 4th
To dal: hodgson, tanev and Raymond.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jan 19 @ 9:52 PM ET
Talking about Raymond, yea he's fast and can pk, but not much else other than around 20 goals. And once again i was including I dman in the deal.
To van: morrow, Burish, robidas and a 4th
To dal: hodgson, tanev and Raymond.

- NoobasaurusRex


Like I have been saying...those players leaving your team would put you under the floor. It also puts us over. Without Ballard in the deal...it wont work.

http://www.capgeek.com/tr...=696&CompleteTradeButton=
NoobasaurusRex
Dallas Stars
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.18.2011

Jan 19 @ 9:59 PM ET
Like I have been saying...those players leaving your team would put you under the floor. It also puts us over. Without Ballard in the deal...it wont work.

http://www.capgeek.com/tr...=696&CompleteTradeButton=

- boonerbuck


The deal I had earlier was fine. Burish grossman and robidas for Ballard tanev and Raymond. A few of you liked it. Throw Ballard in the other deal and make the draft picks work.
immature_male
Vancouver Canucks
Location: delta, BC
Joined: 06.15.2011

Jan 19 @ 10:03 PM ET
Talking about Raymond, yea he's fast and can pk, but not much else other than around 20 goals. And once again i was including I dman in the deal.
To van: morrow, Burish, robidas and a 4th
To dal: hodgson, tanev and Raymond.

- NoobasaurusRex

I couldn't do hodgson and tanev. Hodgson to me should be untouchable, our next trevor. Hodgson also has more maturity than some players (no pissy kesler responses from him).

Morrow, Fistric, Burish
Raymond, Ballard, Tanev and Connauton or Sauve or Rodin and draft pick
Kaptainkesler
Joined: 02.21.2011

Jan 19 @ 10:04 PM ET
I'm hearing leafs and canucks very close to deal. My wife's 1st cousin has a source in the leafs organization. He told me about the Phanuef/Giguire deals the night before they went down. He aslo told me last sumer 2 weeks before Richards/Carter that the leafs and Flyers were close to a deal of Kadri/Kulemin for Carter. Turns out it was Richards but he was definetly close. Anyways he told me the leafs and Canucks have this on the table.
To Tor: Ballard, Schnieder, Raymond and Maholtra
To Van: Komisarik, Schenn and Kulemin.
He's a leafs fan and didn't even seem to mind it. I think its close in terms on what each team gets but seems like to many players for the deal to work
immature_male
Vancouver Canucks
Location: delta, BC
Joined: 06.15.2011

Jan 19 @ 10:07 PM ET
I'm hearing leafs and canucks very close to deal. My wife's 1st cousin has a source in the leafs organization. He told me about the Phanuef/Giguire deals the night before they went down. He aslo told me last sumer 2 weeks before Richards/Carter that the leafs and Flyers were close to a deal of Kadri/Kulemin for Carter. Turns out it was Richards but he was definetly close. Anyways he told me the leafs and Canucks have this on the table.
To Tor: Ballard, Schnieder, Raymond and Maholtra
To Van: Komisarik, Schenn and Kulemin.
He's a leafs fan and didn't even seem to mind it. I think its close in terms on what each team gets but seems like to many players for the deal to work

- Kaptainkesler

I would hold out for more for schneider, and wait until the draft. Not sure how Lack is doing in chicago, schenn would be a great steal.
Kaptainkesler
Joined: 02.21.2011

Jan 19 @ 10:09 PM ET
Morrow can fetch a lot more than Raymond and some plugs.

The deal would need hodgson and tanev involved for sure. Plus Raymond.

- NoobasaurusRex

Yeah I agree Morrow would be huge for Vancouver. But no chance you get hodgson unless you guys really sweeten the pot. I do think both teams have alot of players who fit the other teams needs.
kneughter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: “yup call came in, but as pe
Joined: 07.14.2009

Jan 19 @ 10:10 PM ET
The deal I had earlier was fine. Burish grossman and robidas for Ballard tanev and Raymond. A few of you liked it. Throw Ballard in the other deal and make the draft picks work.
- NoobasaurusRex

http://www.capgeek.com/tr...eam-29-players%5B%5D=1775
Kaptainkesler
Joined: 02.21.2011

Jan 19 @ 10:11 PM ET
I would hold out for more for schneider, and wait until the draft. Not sure how Lack is doing in chicago, schenn would be a great steal.
- immature_male

yeah we would need another goalie for sure. In my opinion the canucks are getting Schenn for Schnieder in that deal. He's having a horrible yr but I think a change of scenery may help.
Kaptainkesler
Joined: 02.21.2011

Jan 19 @ 10:12 PM ET
http://www.capgeek.com/tr...eam-29-players%5B%5D=1775
- kneughter

Kaptainkesler
Joined: 02.21.2011

Jan 19 @ 10:16 PM ET
I think if you can get Gill or Zanon for cheap.. you do it. This is to replace an almost guaranteed Salo injury. Or any other possible injuries... they could even dress Gill against a team like San jose... and Tanev against detroit. Go with 7 on some nights.

Again... I wouldn't pay more than a 2nd for Gill... or like schroeder and a 3rd for zanon. That sort of thing.

My dream guy is troy brouwer... almost impossible... but exactly what we need. Tim Jackman... Adam Burrish... Derek Dorsett... Jared Boll.. all nice possibilities.

Just my dream list.

- kneughter

I think Brouwer is possible. Wash needs a shake up. Gillis had an offer in for Brouwer at the draft. I doubt there was anyway Bowman moved him to vancouver. I think he was insurance in case they lost Laich.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jan 19 @ 10:23 PM ET
The only way I dont cry and hate Gillis for moving Hodgson is if he's a piece of a huge aquisition like Perry/Getzlaf or Weber. Then we are hoping we are solid enough with Lappy and Manny in the middle of the bottom six. Still, those would be over the top players for us.
docmorgan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: stall, Crosby, perry Giroux, T, BC
Joined: 01.06.2011

Jan 19 @ 10:28 PM ET
I'm hearing leafs and canucks very close to deal. My wife's 1st cousin has a source in the leafs organization. He told me about the Phanuef/Giguire deals the night before they went down. He aslo told me last sumer 2 weeks before Richards/Carter that the leafs and Flyers were close to a deal of Kadri/Kulemin for Carter. Turns out it was Richards but he was definetly close. Anyways he told me the leafs and Canucks have this on the table.
To Tor: Ballard, Schnieder, Raymond and Maholtra
To Van: Komisarik, Schenn and Kulemin.
He's a leafs fan and didn't even seem to mind it. I think its close in terms on what each team gets but seems like to many players for the deal to work

- Kaptainkesler

Thow in Reimer and maybe.
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