Talking about Raymond, yea he's fast and can pk, but not much else other than around 20 goals. And once again i was including I dman in the deal.
To van: morrow, Burish, robidas and a 4th
To dal: hodgson, tanev and Raymond.
- NoobasaurusRex

Thats 20 goals with limited PP and no prime minutes. On a struggling team like Dallas he would be higher

I'm hearing leafs and canucks very close to deal. My wife's 1st cousin has a source in the leafs organization. He told me about the Phanuef/Giguire deals the night before they went down. He aslo told me last sumer 2 weeks before Richards/Carter that the leafs and Flyers were close to a deal of Kadri/Kulemin for Carter. Turns out it was Richards but he was definetly close. Anyways he told me the leafs and Canucks have this on the table.
To Tor: Ballard, Schnieder, Raymond and Maholtra
To Van: Komisarik, Schenn and Kulemin.
He's a leafs fan and didn't even seem to mind it. I think its close in terms on what each team gets but seems like to many players for the deal to work
- Kaptainkesler

That deal would technically put canucks over the cap... and its also a terrible deal for the canucks... schneider is extremely sought after by about 3 or 4 teams and komi is probably the most over paid defenseman in the league for what he brings.. he is a (frank)ing pylon out there.

Kulemin had a great year last year... and I do not expect that to happen again. Schenn is a solid defensive d man though... would love for him to be on the team in the right role... but that deal brings nothing else.

That deal would technically put canucks over the cap... and its also a terrible deal for the canucks... schneider is extremely sought after by about 3 or 4 teams and komi is probably the most over paid defenseman in the league for what he brings.. he is a (frank)ing pylon out there.

Kulemin had a great year last year... and I do not expect that to happen again. Schenn is a solid defensive d man though... would love for him to be on the team in the right role... but that deal brings nothing else.
- kneughter

To me dumping malhotra and Ballard would be awesome but not if it involves schnieder and the best player coming back is komisarek.

The only way I dont cry and hate Gillis for moving Hodgson is if he's a piece of a huge aquisition like Perry/Getzlaf or Weber. Then we are hoping we are solid enough with Lappy and Manny in the middle of the bottom six. Still, those would be over the top players for us.
- boonerbuck

2 Hockey Insiders have said Weber and Suter are going nowhere bt TDL,And Bob Mckenzie said he very highly doubts it.

2 Hockey Insiders have said Weber and Suter are going nowhere bt TDL,And Bob Mckenzie said he very highly doubts it.
- VANTEL

I was just using those players as a measuring stick. Cody goes nowhere unless...

I was just using those players as a measuring stick. Cody goes nowhere unless...
- boonerbuck

I know I was letting everyone know ,not you.

That deal would technically put canucks over the cap... and its also a terrible deal for the canucks... schneider is extremely sought after by about 3 or 4 teams and komi is probably the most over paid defenseman in the league for what he brings.. he is a (frank)ing pylon out there.

Kulemin had a great year last year... and I do not expect that to happen again. Schenn is a solid defensive d man though... would love for him to be on the team in the right role... but that deal brings nothing else.
- kneughter

We could trade raymond for kulemin and both teams would be in the same position.

I would like to see
To VAN : Brouwer and Jeff Schultz (about 5 mil)
To WSH : Raymond, Malhotra, Rome (about 5.9 mil)

We could trade raymond for kulemin and both teams would be in the same position.

I would like to see
To VAN : Brouwer and Jeff Schultz (about 5 mil)
To WSH : Raymond, Malhotra, Rome and a pick if needed (about 5.9 mil)
- immature_male

We could trade raymond for kulemin and both teams would be in the same position.

I would like to see
To VAN : Brouwer and Jeff Schultz (about 5 mil)
To WSH : Raymond, Malhotra, Rome (about 5.9 mil)
- immature_male

Washington fans wouldn't. Canucks would have to add more value—picks and/or prospects.

We could trade raymond for kulemin and both teams would be in the same position.

I would like to see
To VAN : Brouwer and Jeff Schultz (about 5 mil)
To WSH : Raymond, Malhotra, Rome (about 5.9 mil)
- immature_male

Why would Wash trade Brouwer to Van for those 3 ? He has more goals ,hits that and cost less than all three players combined?

We could trade raymond for kulemin and both teams would be in the same position.

I would like to see
To VAN : Brouwer and Jeff Schultz (about 5 mil)
To WSH : Raymond, Malhotra, Rome (about 5.9 mil)
- immature_male

People really need to stop posting trade offers. Most of you are looking clueless. Washington gave up a 1st round pick to get Brouwer, he already has 14 goals this year, and he's a player their team really needs. Why would they trade him?

Washington fans wouldn't. Canucks would have to add more value—picks and/or prospects.
- Fosco

then i would throw in picks and or prospects

2 Hockey Insiders have said Weber and Suter are going nowhere bt TDL,And Bob Mckenzie said he very highly doubts it.
- VANTEL

I can't remember where I heard it but I thought Shea Weber said he didn't want to be part of this Canucks team anyways...

I can't remember where I heard it but I thought Shea Weber said he didn't want to be part of this Canucks team anyways...
- I-own_da-Northwest

Shiddy

Shiddy
- VANTEL

seems like a reliable source to me. That guy is about as clueless as Scooby Doo

Shiddy
- VANTEL

book it

seems like a reliable source to me. That guy is about as clueless as Scooby Doo
- Kaptainkesler

I see what you did there...

book it
- immature_male

I have

People really need to stop posting trade offers. Most of you are looking clueless. Washington gave up a 1st round pick to get Brouwer, he already has 14 goals this year, and he's a player their team really needs. Why would they trade him?
- hertzman

I love it. Maybe I should update my location to include Maholtra. Hmmmmmmm

2 Hockey Insiders have said Weber and Suter are going nowhere bt TDL,And Bob Mckenzie said he very highly doubts it.
- VANTEL

Nashville's in a sticky spot. They need to make the playoffs and get to at least the second round for the extra gate those games bring in. Those two players are key pieces so they can't afford to let them go. But they will end up with diminishing returns on those assets because they aren't likely to re-sign either of them unless there's a hometown discount.

But that's what makes the situation worse. They don't have the revenues to spend to the cap which they will need to do to pay market value to their core players. They've already committed a boat load to Rinne so they'll be hard pressed to keep their other stars and still fill out the roster with guys who can legitimately help them contend for the cup. Their budget limitations are likely to prevent them from being a cap-spending team for several more years at least.

Their players can see the futility of the situation. (Weber all but said so last year which is why they didn't or couldn't re-sign him to a long term deal last summer.) So their key guys will wait the team out and test the market when they're eligible. They have nothing to lose in doing so. They can leave and make more money elsewhere, or they can take a bit less to go somewhere and possibly have a better chance to win a championship.

Preds management almost has to let their free agents walk or trade their negotiating rights as they did with Hamhuis. Trading Weber now would be a PR disaster. But seeing him leave because the team can't afford to have one greedy star rather than a balanced roster is an easier sell to the fans.

I think the only way the Canucks have a shot at getting Weber this year is if his agent tells the team he's already made up his mind that after next season he plans to do what Hamhuis did, and asks for them to make a trade with the Canucks ahead of time so they'll still get some value for him. A long shot that I don't see happening this year. More likely next year depending on how the situation plays out in the media over the summer.

He's the piece that, in my mind anyway, would round the Canucks out into a true powerhouse for a few more years. But that's conditional on him also signing with the Canucks at a discount like Hamhuis and everyone else did, so they can afford to keep Edler when he's due for renewal in two years.

Edler and Weber
Hamhuis and Bieksa
Tanev and ?????

[quote=YeOldTimer]Nashville's in a sticky spot. They need to make the playoffs and get to at least the second round for the extra gate those games bring in. Those two players are key pieces so they can't afford to let them go. But they will end up with diminishing returns on those assets because they aren't likely to re-sign either of them unless there's a hometown discount.

The problem with Nashville is Weber wants to win a cup and they have not addressed their issue of lack of offense, so why would he stay? Isn't Suter UFA this year? I would be fine with either of them

[quote=YeOldTimer]Nashville's in a sticky spot. They need to make the playoffs and get to at least the second round for the extra gate those games bring in. Those two players are key pieces so they can't afford to let them go. But they will end up with diminishing returns on those assets because they aren't likely to re-sign either of them unless there's a hometown discount.

The problem with Nashville is Weber wants to win a cup and they have not addressed their issue of lack of offense, so why would he stay? Isn't Suter UFA this year? I would be fine with either of them
- immature_male

I believe Suter has made it clear he wants to stay in the US... at least thats what someone had quoted a little while back.

Thats why I see Detroit as a possible destination... is it possible he may be traded here and then sign somewhere else in the offseason? There is a slim chance.

I dont see any of those guys as an option for this year... but definitely at the draft. When I think schneider will be dealt.

[quote=YeOldTimer]Nashville's in a sticky spot. They need to make the playoffs and get to at least the second round for the extra gate those games bring in. Those two players are key pieces so they can't afford to let them go. But they will end up with diminishing returns on those assets because they aren't likely to re-sign either of them unless there's a hometown discount.

The problem with Nashville is Weber wants to win a cup and they have not addressed their issue of lack of offense, so why would he stay? Isn't Suter UFA this year? I would be fine with either of them
- immature_male

Defense, goaltending and depth wins Championships...fact! The 80's have long since past. Look at the standings, Nashville has just as good a shot at the Cup as the Canucks at this point. Weber and Suter aren't going anywhere until the summer, if at all?

1 Detroit 47 31 15 1 63
2 Vancouver 47 28 15 4 60
3 San Jose 44 26 13 5 57
4 St. Louis 46 28 12 6 62
5 Chicago 47 28 13 6 62
6 Nashville 47 27 16 4 58
7 Los Angeles 48 23 15 10 56
8 Colorado 48 25 21 2 52

I can't remember where I heard it but I thought Shea Weber said he didn't want to be part of this Canucks team anyways...
- I-own_da-Northwest

I had heard the same thing back in the summer, I shared a table with his uncle at a retirement and mentioned this and he was genuinely shocked, then he got pissed and said I'm going to speak to that boy.

So hopefully it's BS, not that Vancouver would win a bidding war.

I had heard the same thing back in the summer, I shared a table with his uncle at a retirement and mentioned this and he was genuinely shocked, then he got pissed and said I'm going to speak to that boy.

So hopefully it's BS, not that Vancouver would win a bidding war.
- Makita

I know Suter don't wanna play here so he would be expensive, but I'm surprised if the Weber thing is true. He may have just said that to not sellout his team, or maybe he just wouldn't like the pressure...