thought it would be valued more highly than a .gif of Dr. Spock saying "Word Up" as a pair of animated sunglasses slowly descended from the top of the gif down to cover his eyes.
- bradleyc4

you got one of those?

hard to compare us regular folks to athletes. 5 million a year and playing on a losing team is drasticaly different than our lives. I think if someone paid you 5 million, you should be able to find some way to be happy about playing in columbus. there's being happy and then there's being spoiled.
- funmaster18

But I would take 3 million to play in a winning situation. I KNOW this. Even if I have never experienced it, because I want to win first.

I KNOW this because I have numerous opportunities to play music I hate, for more money than my current situation, which is paying music I love. Ive been in both situations, and I would rather play what I like. My state of mind and inner happiness more than offsets the lesser money.

My biggest worry with Pronger is that he won't stick around and pretend to be making a comeback, a la Lappy. I think he would just retire, in which case we'd be screwed. So I also agree that he's the best guy to buy out.

But here's another (crazy probably) thought. Assuming he waived the no trade, could the flyers trade him to a team that needs help getting to the cap floor, along with enough cash to pay his salary next year. He can then retire and the team gets a 4+ mil cap benefit.

Assuming that would fly with the league, the Flyers might actually be able to get a pick or something, since it would be highly valuable to some franchises.
- TheGreat28

Pronger wouldn't have to pretend to be making a comeback to stay on LTIR. Also, why would he retire and give up the money owed to him?

Pronger would not have to try and make a comeback to stay on LTIR. Also, why would he retire and give up the moeny owed to him?
- MJL

So a the very least, we could see him suit up in pre season sometime? Whether it's this September or the following?

you got one of those?
- Don'tForgetTocchet

So a the very least, we could see him suit up in pre season sometime? Whether it's this September or the following?
- Schenn2shine

No. He doesn't have to try to make a comeback, he just needs to be medically prevented from playing hockey

But I would take 3 million to play in a winning situation. I KNOW this. Even if I have never experienced it, because I want to win first.

I KNOW this because I have numerous opportunities to play music I hate, for more money than my current situation, which is paying music I love. Ive been in both situations, and I would rather play what I like. My state of mind and inner happiness more than offsets the lesser money.
- MBFlyerfan

When Carter entered the league, he realized he could be traded anywhere until his deal declared otherwise. That is the trade off of being an NHL hockey player. I'm sure he wants to be on a winning team, but that's not that way the cookie crumbled and if he didn't forsee that as a possibility, then he shouldn't have become a professional hockey player. The point is, any amount of millions is enough to be happy playing in any NHL city, IMO. If it's not, don't be a hockey player.

So a the very least, we could see him suit up in pre season sometime? Whether it's this September or the following?
- Schenn2shine

No, it's possible Pronger never skates again for a team.

you got one of those?
- Don'tForgetTocchet

no, just wanted to get my vid in there before someone else dropped something similar

When Carter entered the league, he realized he could be traded anywhere until his deal declared otherwise. That is the trade off of being an NHL hockey player. I'm sure he wants to be on a winning team, but that's not that way the cookie crumbled and if he didn't forsee that as a possibility, then he shouldn't have become a professional hockey player. The point is, any amount of millions is enough to be happy playing in any NHL city, IMO. If it's not, don't be a hockey player.
- funmaster18

Ill just have to disagree. I feel differently.

Ill just have to disagree. I feel differently.
- MBFlyerfan

I think you are overlooking the fact that it was an inherited risk of being a hockey player. I understand your view of wanting less money to be happy, I don't disagree with that. I just think professional athletes, as well as musicians and actors, play with a totally different set of rules. My only point is if he couldn't accept the possibility of playing on a team he didn't want to be a part of, then he miscalculated his decision to be a professional athlete. 9/10 you hear a guy say "that's part of the game" after being traded.

From where I sit I would be happy getting paid 5 mil to play hockey in Camden New Jersey.

From where I sit I would be happy getting paid 5 mil to play hockey in Camden New Jersey.
- bird_dog

I would take a lot less than that to play hockey as my job, are you kidding me?

When Carter entered the league, he realized he could be traded anywhere until his deal declared otherwise. That is the trade off of being an NHL hockey player. I'm sure he wants to be on a winning team, but that's not that way the cookie crumbled and if he didn't forsee that as a possibility, then he shouldn't have become a professional hockey player. The point is, any amount of millions is enough to be happy playing in any NHL city, IMO. If it's not, don't be a hockey player.
- funmaster18

Agree with you 100%. It's not a birth right for anyone to be on a winning team. Look how many bad teams Ted Williams played on. Guy never won a Championship. By every indication I have seen Carter is miserable and has sulked his entire time in Columbus. He should grow up and try and be part of the solution, instead of the problem.

i have tickets for tomorrows game and cant make it. if interested let me know lower level in the corner not sure exact seats untill i get home but will sell them for half price.

Sure they do. The Flyers have a similar player in Coburn who is going to make 4.5M next year.
- MJL

Braydon Coburn has shown that he can be a much better offensive player than Gleason. Coburn is also a much better passer, a much better skater, is 5 inches and 10 lbs heavier than Gleason. Also 2 years younger.

I think you are overlooking the fact that it was an inherited risk of being a hockey player. I understand your view of wanting less money to be happy, I don't disagree with that. I just think professional athletes, as well as musicians and actors, play with a totally different set of rules. My only point is if he couldn't accept the possibility of playing on a team he didn't want to be a part of, then he miscalculated his decision to be a professional athlete. 9/10 you hear a guy say "that's part of the game" after being traded.
- funmaster18

That is all fine and good. But it usually doesn't happen after signing a ten year deal, when you could have gotten more to sign somewhere else, with your boss promising you that you are not going anywhere.

As I said, I just disagree.

When Carter entered the league, he realized he could be traded anywhere until his deal declared otherwise. That is the trade off of being an NHL hockey player. I'm sure he wants to be on a winning team, but that's not that way the cookie crumbled and if he didn't forsee that as a possibility, then he shouldn't have become a professional hockey player. The point is, any amount of millions is enough to be happy playing in any NHL city, IMO. If it's not, don't be a hockey player.
- funmaster18

You may be simplifying the situation. Sure it was a risk. But when you sign a long-term extension and when management has told you that you and Richie would be the future, a trade is the *last* thing you would expect. It is what it is, but anyone that doesn't feel bad for him is simply jealous of his success and is not looking at the situation with any human element. You can feel bad for the guy and still be envious of him.....

I think you are overlooking the fact that it was an inherited risk of being a hockey player. I understand your view of wanting less money to be happy, I don't disagree with that. I just think professional athletes, as well as musicians and actors, play with a totally different set of rules. My only point is if he couldn't accept the possibility of playing on a team he didn't want to be a part of, then he miscalculated his decision to be a professional athlete. 9/10 you hear a guy say "that's part of the game" after being traded.
- funmaster18

I just noticed that he has a full NTC (2012-13 through 2014-15); modified NTC (2015-16 through 2021-22). Wonder why it didn't start when the contract started.

there should be an exception rule for the plus 35 contract, because if he was healthy he would be playing.

its not like they signed him with concussion problems, he was not damaged goods by no means when he signed.

Braydon Coburn has shown that he can be a much better offensive player than Gleason. Coburn is also a much better passer, a much better skater, is 5 inches and 10 lbs heavier than Gleason. Also 2 years younger.
- jak521

Gleason is garbage.

That is all fine and good. But it usually doesn't happen after signing a ten year deal, when you could have gotten more to sign somewhere else, with your boss promising you that you are not going anywhere.

As I said, I just disagree.
- MBFlyerfan

You have to hold up your end of the bargain as well. Having team mgmt called to come escort you out of a Kenny Chesney concert because you and your bud are mangled and have been kicked out of the press box (that Eagles mgmt so kindly gave you) for being "grade A" bumholes doesnt make it easier on yourself.

there should be an exception rule for the plus 35 contract, because if he was healthy he would be playing.

its not like they signed him with concussion problems, he was not damaged goods by no means when he signed.
- mydoglicks

It's unwise to sign any player of that age to a multi-year deal, let alone an 8-year deal. You get what you pay for.

That is all fine and good. But it usually doesn't happen after signing a ten year deal, when you could have gotten more to sign somewhere else, with your boss promising you that you are not going anywhere.

As I said, I just disagree.
- MBFlyerfan

A 20 something year old kid get a 10 year deal worth 5 mil per, I think I'd shut up and thank god.

But no problem, not trying to start a debate, just wanted to weigh in with my opinion

Gleason is garbage.
- rockychocbill

No way Junior.