If you assume the Flyers re-sign Jagr close to what he was at this season then it becomes interesting.

Looking at the cap numbers quickly and assuming the Flyers keep a few guys out of Harry Z, Sestito, Rinaldo, Holmstrom..

It seems to perhaps come down to roughly keeping Carle or Voracek.

Out of all people, its a little shocking, but I'd rather have the help on D.
- flyer_nutter

I'm not sold on re-signing Jagr at this point. Depends on how the rest of the season plays out with him.

I may be alone in saying this but I actually dont think the Flyers should sign Jagr in the offseason unless he takes equal/less money.
- stveshdy

I'm not giving a 40 year old forward 3.5-4.0 not a chance. It looks to me like he starting to break down. Constantly leaving games early is getting annoying.

I may be alone in saying this but I actually dont think the Flyers should sign Jagr in the offseason unless he takes equal/less money.
- stveshdy

It would depend on that for sure.

Just as Plind said with his health.

Assuming they make the playoffs thats where I make my decision. If he can keep up then, and handle the physicality then give him another one year.

I'm not giving a 40 year old forward 3.5-4.0 not a chance. It looks to me like he starting to break down. Constantly leaving games early is getting annoying.
- PLindbergh31

I totally agree with you. I dont know if I would be willing to even sign him unless he takes less money. His health is a serious concern and hes not getting any younger.

I'm not giving a 40 year old forward 3.5-4.0 not a chance. It looks to me like he starting to break down. Constantly leaving games early is getting annoying.
- PLindbergh31

Flyers medical staff are no miracle workers. I dont like them and say what you will but this team has had a poop load of groin injuries over the past few seasons. I wonder if they even stretch before games.

At the same time, while it could be Jagr's age.. He hasnt played in the faster NHL for a while. He may need time to adjust again. He imo has rushed back every time and may need a bit more than a few weeks off and be good to go again.

In reality i think his age is catching up to him but Im being optimistic. Praying Kimmo doesnt hit the same wall any time soon.

I totally agree with you. I dont know if I would be willing to even sign him unless he takes less money. His health is a serious concern and hes not getting any younger.
- stveshdy

Yep. There are a bunch of useful forwards in the 3.0-4.0 range that will be available. If Jagr lights it up in the second half and remains healthy the entire time I would consider it, but I do not see either of those things happening.

Flyers medical staff are no miracle workers. I dont like them and say what you will but this team has had a poop load of groin injuries over the past few seasons. I wonder if they even stretch before games.


- flyer_nutter

Stretching? Nah, they don't do any of that. Unbelievable that the Flyers Medical staff hasn't recommended stretching to the players.

Flyers medical staff are no miracle workers. I dont like them and say what you will but this team has had a poop load of groin injuries over the past few seasons. I wonder if they even stretch before games.

At the same time, while it could be Jagr's age.. He hasnt played in the faster NHL for a while. He may need time to adjust again. He imo has rushed back every time and may need a bit more than a few weeks off and be good to go again.

In reality i think his age is catching up to him but Im being optimistic. Praying Kimmo doesnt hit the same wall any time soon.
- flyer_nutter

I made a point in another post on how Jagr said he hadn't missed a game in 7 years, and now all of a sudden he's in and out of the lineup. It's quite simple, his original groin injury never healed due to him trying to come back too quick. The guy is near the end of his career and every game is paramount to him.

Stretching? Nah, they don't do any of that. Unbelievable that the Flyers Medical staff hasn't recommended stretching to the players.
- MJL

lol

Stretching? Nah, they don't do any of that. Unbelievable that the Flyers Medical staff hasn't recommended stretching to the players.
- MJL

I made a point in another post on how Jagr said he hadn't missed a game in 7 years, and now all of a sudden he's in and out of the lineup. It's quite simple, his original groin injury never healed due to him trying to come back too quick. The guy is near the end of his career and every game is paramount to him.
- PLindbergh31

Jagr hasnt played an NHL game in years prior to this season. He is being asked to play more games in a more physical league on a consistent basis then the KHL.

Jagr hasnt played an NHL game in years prior to this season. He is being asked to play more games in a more physical league on a consistent basis then the KHL.
- stveshdy

No question about it. His three years with the Rags he played 82 games a year. But Jagr was ages 33-35 when he played in NY. He's two weeks away from being 40 years old.

No question about it. His three years with the Rags he played 82 games a year. But Jagr was ages 33-35 when he played in NY. He's two weeks away from being 40 years old.
- PLindbergh31

Plus he doesnt stretch.

If you assume the Flyers re-sign Jagr close to what he was at this season then it becomes interesting.

Looking at the cap numbers quickly and assuming the Flyers keep a few guys out of Harry Z, Sestito, Rinaldo, Holmstrom..

It seems to perhaps come down to roughly keeping Carle or Voracek.

Out of all people, its a little shocking, but I'd rather have the help on D.
- flyer_nutter

It's going to be a complicated summer. It seems the Flyers do have interest in Ryan Suter but to me Suter is the perfect replacement for a guy like Kimmo Timonen and not Chris Pronger. Shea Weber in my mind is the perfect Chris Pronger replacement. Suter isn't the physical presence Pronger and Weber are and that is what we need. If Carle isn't re-signed I have to assume the Flyers are going after one of Suter or Weber. I can't help but feel Carle will be sorely missed if the Flyers do go after one of these big timer Dmen.

No question about it. His three years with the Rags he played 82 games a year. But Jagr was ages 33-35 when he played in NY. He's two weeks away from being 40 years old.
- PLindbergh31

I see that myself (frank).

At 17-20 I could go out every night, sleep 4 hours and do it all again.

21 and wrinkles starting.. I look forward to the nights where I can get to sleep early.

Jagr hasnt played an NHL game in years prior to this season. He is being asked to play more games in a more physical league on a consistent basis then the KHL.
- stveshdy

he's also not getting the creature comforts of barrack-style living.

Plus he doesnt stretch.
- stveshdy

Not stretching is a bit of a reach, but I have zero faith in the Flyers trainers/medical team.

I see that myself (frank).

At 17-20 I could go out every night, sleep 4 hours and do it all again.

21 and wrinkles starting.. I look forward to the nights where I can get to sleep early.
- flyer_nutter

I wish I was 21 again.....

It's going to be a complicated summer. It seems the Flyers do have interest in Ryan Suter but to me Suter is the perfect replacement for a guy like Kimmo Timonen and not Chris Pronger. Shea Weber in my mind is the perfect Chris Pronger replacement. Suter isn't the physical presence Pronger and Weber are and that is what we need. If Carle isn't re-signed I have to assume the Flyers are going after one of Suter or Weber. I can't help but feel Carle will be sorely missed if the Flyers do go after one of these big timer Dmen.
- Schenn2shine

I dont know if they can replace a Pronger but it wouldnt hurt to add a physical defenseman to this team during the offseason.

I dont know if they can replace a Pronger but it wouldnt hurt to add a physical defenseman to this team during the offseason.
- stveshdy

It wouldn't hurt to do it now at the right price.

I wish I was 21 again.....
- PLindbergh31

I wish I was 17 again.

At least with your age you have the money saved up to own a house and other poop.

Im stuck in the middle. At least the ___ is good.

It's going to be a complicated summer. It seems the Flyers do have interest in Ryan Suter but to me Suter is the perfect replacement for a guy like Kimmo Timonen and not Chris Pronger. Shea Weber in my mind is the perfect Chris Pronger replacement. Suter isn't the physical presence Pronger and Weber are and that is what we need. If Carle isn't re-signed I have to assume the Flyers are going after one of Suter or Weber. I can't help but feel Carle will be sorely missed if the Flyers do go after one of these big timer Dmen.
- Schenn2shine

Every team would love Shea Weber. If he was a UFA I would make a serious run at him, trading for him is a whole different animal. The type of assets it would take to acquire him would leave gaping holes in other areas.

Loosing Bdawk was a major kick in the nuts
- bigmookalookie

And not replacing him was doing it again.

It wouldn't hurt to do it now at the right price.
- Schenn2shine

Thats the problem the asking price for a defenseman is crazy.

I wish I was 17 again.

At least with your age you have the money saved up to own a house and other poop.

Im stuck in the middle. At least the ___ is good.
- flyer_nutter

I'd like a do-over starting when I was 28.