Nope. 1 year left on his deal after this one.
- Jsaquella

I'm glad Lupul handled it the way he did.
- bodiva88

ALL of these NHL players are good guys. In stark contrast to the parolee convention that was the NFL Pro Bowl.

If there is an amnesty rule put in for next season I would buy-out Briere, Timonen, and Pronger. Offer Timonen and Briere 1 year deals at a cheaper cap hit, so they get paid, and then get paid again. I doubt either guy would test free agency if the Flyers offered them contracts after they bought them out, and that could clear major cap space...

The question is, woud you guys buy out Bryzgalov?

If there is an amnesty rule put in for next season I would buy-out Briere, Timonen, and Pronger. Offer Timonen and Briere 1 year deals at a cheaper cap hit, so they get paid, and then get paid again. I doubt either guy would test free agency if the Flyers offered them contracts after they bought them out, and that could clear major cap space...

The question is, woud you guys buy out Bryzgalov?
- RooNosHockey

Would Snider want to buy out 3 huge contracts, and possibly a 4th?

If there is an amnesty rule put in for next season I would buy-out Briere, Timonen, and Pronger. Offer Timonen and Briere 1 year deals at a cheaper cap hit, so they get paid, and then get paid again. I doubt either guy would test free agency if the Flyers offered them contracts after they bought them out, and that could clear major cap space...

The question is, would you guys buy out Bryzgalov?
- RooNosHockey

Not after one season I wouldn't. I also don't really see the point in buying out Briere or Timonen. It just doesn't sit right with me. From a financial standpoint it would seem like a thing to do, but on a personnel/personal level, it would just make the team look bad in my opinion.

True, but Homer has a crap load of draft picks this year and you have to figure he will want to sign a few of them, plus when you lose players like Jagr and Carle, they have to be replaced. All I am saying is Prongers situation hurts them 2 ways not just on the ice. It hurts them in the off-season with spending, and it eats up a contract spot.

Maybe in the off-season with a New CBA deal in the works, an amnisty clause might be able to be used on him...
- RooNosHockey

They don;t have to sign any of the draft picks. They only signed 2 of this year's class, and one of them slid. They can slide an 18 year old who returns to junior and the contract doesn't count.

Pronger's contract is a mild headache in terms of taking up a single contract slot.

If there is an amnesty rule put in for next season I would buy-out Briere, Timonen, and Pronger. Offer Timonen and Briere 1 year deals at a cheaper cap hit, so they get paid, and then get paid again. I doubt either guy would test free agency if the Flyers offered them contracts after they bought them out, and that could clear major cap space...

The question is, woud you guys buy out Bryzgalov?
- RooNosHockey

If there is a NBA style amnesty buyout it would be limited to one contract for the life for the CBA. You wouldn't be able to buy our four or five deals, just one.

Having a player on LTIR really hurts you in the off-season, because his salary hits the books again, and limits how much the Flyers can go over the cap to spend of UFA's. It also counts as a roster player/ contract player, and the Flyers are up against the max on that as well. It does really hurt.
- RooNosHockey

It really doesn't hurt you Cap wise. Why would you want to go way over the Cap in the Summer, only to have to make moves before the Season to geg Cap compliant. It does take up a contract space. The real issue is the uncertainty of when he's going to play again.

Would Snider want to buy out 3 huge contracts, and possibly a 4th?
- jak521

Timonen and Briere are on the last yer of thier contract. I doubt thier actual salary is anywhere near what thier cap hit is. Prongers and Bryzgalov's would be pricey, so Lets say you keep Bryz.

Timonen and Briere = 13 million in cap

Offer bith new contacts, Timonen, 1 year @ 4.5 million. Briere 3 years at 4 million. Cap Savings 4.5 million, plus Prongers 4.5 million is 9 million in cap space, with keeping the same roster. With Carle's cap and Jagr's cap you could go out and sign Suter and a top line winger... I think Snider would do it for that.

If there is a NBA style amnesty buyout it would be limited to one contract for the life for the CBA. You wouldn't be able to buy our four or five deals, just one.
- Jsaquella

Hmm. good point.

Timonen and Briere are on the last yer of thier contract. I doubt thier actual salary is anywhere near what thier cap hit is. Prongers and Bryzgalov's would be pricey, so Lets say you keep Bryz.

Timonen and Briere = 13 million in cap

Offer bith new contacts, Timonen, 1 year @ 4.5 million. Briere 3 years at 4 million. Cap Savings 4.5 million, plus Prongers 4.5 million is 9 million in cap space, with keeping the same roster. With Carle's cap and Jagr's cap you could go out and sign Suter and a top line winger... I think Snider would do it for that.
- RooNosHockey

Briere actually has 3 years after this.

Timonen and Briere are on the last yer of thier contract. I doubt thier actual salary is anywhere near what thier cap hit is. Prongers and Bryzgalov's would be pricey, so Lets say you keep Bryz.

Timonen and Briere = 13 million in cap

Offer bith new contacts, Timonen, 1 year @ 4.5 million. Briere 3 years at 4 million. Cap Savings 4.5 million, plus Prongers 4.5 million is 9 million in cap space, with keeping the same roster. With Carle's cap and Jagr's cap you could go out and sign Suter and a top line winger... I think Snider would do it for that.
- RooNosHockey

When the NHL allowed compliance buy outs coming out of the lockout, one rule was that if a player was bought out by a team, he could not rejoin that team with a new contract. I'd expect a similar rule with a NBA-style amnesty buyout

Briere actually has 3 years after this.
- MBFlyerfan

beat me to it..

When the NHL allowed compliance buy outs coming out of the lockout, one rule was that if a player was bought out by a team, he could not rejoin that team with a new contract. I'd expect a similar rule with a NBA-style amnesty buyout
- Jsaquella

Otherwise its a cap circumvention in its finest form.

Not after one season I wouldn't. I also don't really see the point in buying out Briere or Timonen. It just doesn't sit right with me. From a financial standpoint it would seem like a thing to do, but on a personnel/personal level, it would just make the team look bad in my opinion.
- MBFlyerfan

I'm not saying it could happen, but why would it make the team look bad? If they buy out Timonen and Briere those players get thier money... Full contract. Then the Flyers offer them another contract at a lower cap hit... It is actually giving the player extra money... I cant see why either guy would take that personally...

Hmm. good point.
- RooNosHockey

The NHL is not proposing anything different than the NBA clause, if it passes at all. From what's been reported enough owners seem to like it that it may come to pass, but with a new CBA, everything like that will be a chip to bargain for or to trade to secure another concession.

Briere actually has 3 years after this.
- MBFlyerfan

Your kidding. That is a long time to have a 6.5 million dollar cap hit...

beat me to it..
- jak521

Had to happen eventually......

I've speculated many times what I think the team should do. Homer's always agressive, so nothing shocks me really.

I just don't think Nash trades him while they are in the running. Bad message to the fans..I see them playing it out with this group, losing in round 2 and then trading him for a pick before 1 July if they can't get it done. It wouldn't shock me either to see Homer get Gleason for maybe a 2nd and harry Z or something like that. I don't trade JVR or Schenn unless it's for a bona fide young star Dman. Then I guess you draft another forward with your 1st pick to fill that void.
- Hextall271

You make a really important point. Unlike most other sports, it seems like hockey really utilizes the trading for a player's rights prior to free agency. I think, like you said, Nashville plays this season out and sees how negotiations go with him. If they go sour, I'm sure a lot of teams will lineup to acquire his rights. Could definitely see a package of two picks to acquire his rights. Secondly, even if you get a Suter, I'd like to see the Flyers draft a defenseman regardless. Tons of young, talented forwards on this team. Now lets get some young, talented D.

Otherwise its a cap circumvention in its finest form.
- jak521

Basically. It;s not meant so teams can get under the cap and reload. It's a get out of jail free card for a bad contract.

Your kidding. That is a long time to have a 6.5 million dollar cap hit...
- RooNosHockey

He signed an 8 year deal. This is his fifth season.

I'm not saying it could happen, but why would it make the team look bad? If they buy out Timonen and Briere those players get thier money... Full contract. Then the Flyers offer them another contract at a lower cap hit... It is actually giving the player extra money... I cant see why either guy would take that personally...
- RooNosHockey

Im saying it would make them look bad to me.

Your kidding. That is a long time to have a 6.5 million dollar cap hit...
- RooNosHockey

8 years, 52-million.

The NHL is not proposing anything different than the NBA clause, if it passes at all. From what's been reported enough owners seem to like it that it may come to pass, but with a new CBA, everything like that will be a chip to bargain for or to trade to secure another concession.
- Jsaquella

Well if its only 1 player, and knowing we have Giroux, Schenn, and Couturier... I would buyout Briere knowing his cap hit is higher and for the next 3 years and has a NMC... Thats just me though.

Plus you can still LTIR Pronger...

It really doesn't hurt you Cap wise. Why would you want to go way over the Cap in the Summer, only to have to make moves before the Season to geg Cap compliant. It does take up a contract space. The real issue is the uncertainty of when he's going to play again.
- MJL

Indeed. It's tough to plan ahead when you don't know if he'll be giving it another shot next year.

That said, I'd be awfully surprised if we saw Pronger successfully make a comeback.