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Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Jan 31 @ 11:24 AM ET
Also from the article:

NO TAKERS FOR CARTER
Columbus Blue Jackets center Jeff Carter remains a fixture in the rumor mill, this time courtesy of TSN's Darren Dreger, who recently reported Carter was “100 percent available,” but added his hefty contract could prove difficult to move.

Dreger claimed the Blue Jackets were seeking the same return (a good young roster player and a first round draft pick) they gave up to the Philadelphia Flyers to land Carter, but doubted the Jackets would find many takers.

He also dismissed a rumor linking Carter to the Maple Leafs, saying they had no interest in taking on that contract.


- feelingkettle

What if we traded Voracek and our first going into this draft for Carter and then traded Carter in the off season for Weber.

Personally, if we do the Luke Schenn for JvR deal, we can all say good bye to Shea Weber.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Jan 31 @ 11:24 AM ET
Maybe he is, I have no idea. I haven't read anything otherwise.
- Schenn2shine

Jagr says he's playing. (via @davegisaac)
Jagr says he will play (via @tpanotchCSN)
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 31 @ 11:25 AM ET
Schenn's name has popped up in the rumor mill before, most recently linked to Philadelphia left winger James van Riemsdyk. If Burke is in pursuit of a top scoring forward, it will take a player like Schenn as the centerpiece in a package deal to get it done.
http://www.thehockeynews....al-seal-Schenns-fate.html

So it looks like others seem to think that any JVR/Schenn deal will require a package to come along with Schenn. I am firm that the Flyers might be able to get Schenn and a First for JVR and a 3rd.

- RooNosHockey

It would have to be a heck of a package...

Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Jan 31 @ 11:25 AM ET
Jagr says he's playing. (via @davegisaac)
Jagr says he will play (via @tpanotchCSN)

- feelingkettle


Alright
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 31 @ 11:26 AM ET
What if we traded Voracek and our first going into this draft for Carter and then traded Carter in the off season for Weber.

Personally, if we do the Luke Schenn for JvR deal, we can all say good bye to Shea Weber.

- Schenn2shine

Even if we dont do that deal.. I think we can still say good bye to Shea Weber.
Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Jan 31 @ 11:28 AM ET
Even if we dont do that deal.. I think we can still say good bye to Shea Weber.
- jak521

I don't think so. If Weber is traded during the regular season we have no chance (Which I highly doubt he will be). If Weber is traded in the off season, we have as good a chance as any team.
MrBuzzcut
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 04.04.2007

Jan 31 @ 11:28 AM ET

One thing about these prolonged gaps that pock-mark the NHL schedule: They get ya pumped for a not-so-sexy game in late January!
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jan 31 @ 11:30 AM ET
Jagr says he's playing. (via @davegisaac)
Jagr says he will play (via @tpanotchCSN)

- feelingkettle


Great. Expect him to play a period and be out by the second.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jan 31 @ 11:32 AM ET
I have to admit that I'm a little surprised Jagr isn't ready to go. Each time he's pulled his groin this season the guy has magically deemed himself healthy enough to play much sooner then we could all expect. I can understand the temptation and the sort of pressure he must put on himself to play but this is when games were actually going on. Jagr hasn't played in 10 days and the NHL has been on break for a week. I'm not looking to rush the guy but I'm just noticing that this might be the first time he isn't returning much sooner then he should.
- Schenn2shine



I felt he came back too soon the last time. I don't want him playing a game until he is 100%
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jan 31 @ 11:34 AM ET
Yea, that's kinda what happens when you have ban-happy mods.

/flex those i-net muscles

- Flyer_Nation71

Interesting assumption.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 31 @ 11:39 AM ET
I don't think so. If Weber is traded during the regular season we have no chance (Which I highly doubt he will be). If Weber is traded in the off season, we have as good a chance as any team.
- Schenn2shine

My point is that in both of your (above) scenarios.. you have him being traded.

I dont think Nashville would be that dumb.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 31 @ 11:39 AM ET
I felt he came back too soon the last time. I don't want him playing a game until he is 100%
- nastyflyergirl

Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Jan 31 @ 11:43 AM ET
My point is that in both of your (above) scenarios.. you have him being traded.

I dont think Nashville would be that dumb.

- jak521

Nashville would be dumb to not trade Weber if Weber has no intention of signing with them. Every team has their reasons for trading a player, which is why we got Pronger to begin with.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 31 @ 11:48 AM ET
Nashville would be dumb to not trade Weber if Weber has no intention of signing with them. Every team has their reasons for trading a player, which is why we got Pronger to begin with.
- Schenn2shine

Because Pronger was a 26 year old RFA, one of the best d-men in the league, and about to enter the prime of his career? What does Pronger coming from Anaheim have to do with Weber in Nashville?


Nashville would be dumb if they didnt find a way to sign him long term.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 31 @ 11:50 AM ET
Those are two pretty potent guys unavailable for the Jets tonight, especially Kane, who always seems to be a thorn whenever he plays the Flyers. I feel good about this one for some reason
- eayost


let me temper your optimism with the fact that i just realized i have a ticket to the game tonight.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jan 31 @ 11:50 AM ET

- feelingkettle


You just made my day!!!

I loved the book club growing up. Do schools still do that? I remember you got a small pizza after getting a certain amount of stickers for reading books.


hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 31 @ 11:51 AM ET
You just made my day!!!

I loved the book club growing up. Do schools still do that? I remember you got a small pizza after getting a certain amount of stickers for reading books.



- coffee junkie


do they still have schools?
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Jan 31 @ 11:51 AM ET
let me temper your optimism with the fact that i just realized i have a ticket to the game tonight.
- hammarby31


Welp, they're screwed.
Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Jan 31 @ 11:51 AM ET
Because Pronger was a 26 year old RFA, one of the best d-men in the league, and about to enter the prime of his career? What does Pronger coming from Anaheim have to do with Weber in Nashville?


Nashville would be dumb if they didn't find a way to sign him long term.

- jak521

It's as simple as whether or not Weber wants to be there or not. Weber has already refused to sign with the Preds last summer, so both sides went to arbitration, which rewarded Weber with a 1 year 7.5 million dollar contract.

Why do you think everyone is so sure he'll be traded?
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 31 @ 11:51 AM ET
You just made my day!!!

I loved the book club growing up. Do schools still do that? I remember you got a small pizza after getting a certain amount of stickers for reading books.



- coffee junkie

Good old pizza hut! Those were the days!!
Duran76
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Calmer than you are dude, PA
Joined: 07.25.2010

Jan 31 @ 11:51 AM ET
I hope Jags is truly ready. Hate to see him leave the team short-handed again.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 31 @ 11:52 AM ET
It's as simple as whether or not Weber wants to be there or not. Weber has already refused to sign with the Preds last summer, so both sides went to arbitration, which rewarded Weber with a 1 year 7.5 million dollar contract.

Why do you think everyone is so sure he'll be traded?

- Schenn2shine

Who is everyone that is so sure he will be traded.. and why are they so sure?
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jan 31 @ 11:53 AM ET
so whats the feeling in the mood?
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Jan 31 @ 11:53 AM ET
I hope Jags is truly ready. Hate to see him leave the team short-handed again.
- Duran76


That act is surely getting old, but he says it doesn't hurt.

We'll see.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 31 @ 11:53 AM ET
Welp, they're screwed.
- tangent_man


let me just apologize to the board now.
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