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habby
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Maybe because he won best defenceman of the year, that's how they get paid these days-Alex Kovalev
Joined: 08.31.2006

Feb 3 @ 9:11 AM ET
It was the easy answer.
- hscesq

It's still interesting when you consider how bad the PP has been. It's a big improvement 5 on 5.
Fredobface
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Pacioretty is a gamebreaker, you need guys like that -DD, QC
Joined: 12.09.2008

Feb 3 @ 9:11 AM ET
(frank)ing love Cole.
- hscesq


Cammy?
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Feb 3 @ 9:11 AM ET
Seriously? That's your list?

Habs are really bad this year, but when you break down #s it's not as desperate as some people think. I realize the easy answer to what i'm about to say is "That doesn't mean much", but Mtl is going to score more goals this season than last season. That's total goals. That's with an awful PP.

- habby


Add Price to the list, IF he's asking for a reasonable cap hit.

There is nothing on defense that could or even should be considered a #1 or #2 defenseman.

There is nothing at center that can consistently play the role of a true #1 center.

I don't care about the number of goals they score. This team is simply too weak at key positions.

Blow. It. Up.
Rtt19
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 08.09.2011

Feb 3 @ 9:12 AM ET
At this point, I'd trade just about anyone.

Keep Pacioretty, Cole, Bourque, Gorges and Kostitsyn.

I don't give a poop about the others.

- Pecafan Fan


I would put Price on that list, if he wants to stay...
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Feb 3 @ 9:13 AM ET
Surprising
- Fredobface


I know.

But he'll probably won't cost much and that dumb (frank) consistently finds a way to score 20 goals per season no matter what poop center and limited PP time he's given.
habby
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Maybe because he won best defenceman of the year, that's how they get paid these days-Alex Kovalev
Joined: 08.31.2006

Feb 3 @ 9:14 AM ET
Add Price to the list, IF he's asking for a reasonable cap hit.

There is nothing on defense that could or even should be considered a #1 or #2 defenseman.

There is nothing at center that can consistently play the role of a true #1 center.

I don't care about the number of goals they score. This team is simply too weak at key positions.

Blow. It. Up.

- Pecafan Fan

I'm not gonna defend PK's play this season, but to blindly say he should be traded and that he still doesn't have great potential, especially when you're not going to get fair value for him, is crazy.

I agree with a lot of what you're saying, but "blow it up" is extreme and unnecessary. Plus we both know it won't happen.
habby
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Maybe because he won best defenceman of the year, that's how they get paid these days-Alex Kovalev
Joined: 08.31.2006

Feb 3 @ 9:14 AM ET
Now do goals against.
- stormey

I've been saying from day 1 this team had big problems on D. With or without Markov.
Fredobface
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Pacioretty is a gamebreaker, you need guys like that -DD, QC
Joined: 12.09.2008

Feb 3 @ 9:15 AM ET
Hey....he's on pace for 40 points in a contract year. How do you let that walk???
- stormey


No, I like him because he's the only spectacular guy we have. Granted he only plays one game out of four, but afterall it's a show and once in a while he gives us one.

It surprises me that Asp likes him.
hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Feb 3 @ 9:16 AM ET
No, I like him because he's the only spectacular guy we have. Granted he only plays one game out of four, but afterall it's a show and once in a while he gives us one.

It surprises me that Asp likes him.

- Fredobface

Matty Darche baby!!!!
Fredobface
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Pacioretty is a gamebreaker, you need guys like that -DD, QC
Joined: 12.09.2008

Feb 3 @ 9:16 AM ET
I know.

But he'll probably won't cost much and that dumb (frank) consistently finds a way to score 20 goals per season no matter what poop center and limited PP time he's given.

- Pecafan Fan


And he rarely costs goal when he's on the ice. His play in his own zone is not as bad as it used to be.
habby
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Maybe because he won best defenceman of the year, that's how they get paid these days-Alex Kovalev
Joined: 08.31.2006

Feb 3 @ 9:16 AM ET
I know.

But he'll probably won't cost much and that dumb (frank) consistently finds a way to score 20 goals per season no matter what poop center and limited PP time he's given.

- Pecafan Fan

People need to get over where he was drafted and just look at the player, he's a 2nd or 3rd line player who going to score 20+. If he costs under 4 mil per you keep him.
Rtt19
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 08.09.2011

Feb 3 @ 9:16 AM ET
Matty Darche baby!!!!
- hscesq

Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Feb 3 @ 9:16 AM ET
I'm not gonna defend PK's play this season, but to blindly say he should be traded and that he still doesn't have great potential, especially when you're not going to get fair value for him, is crazy.

I agree with a lot of what you're saying, but "blow it up" is extreme and unnecessary. Plus we both know it won't happen.

- habby


They're not going to get a real top line center unless they give something in return.

If the cost is Subban and say, Plekanec + pick, then so be it. I don't give a poop.

I know they won't blow it up, but that's what needs to be done.
habby
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Maybe because he won best defenceman of the year, that's how they get paid these days-Alex Kovalev
Joined: 08.31.2006

Feb 3 @ 9:17 AM ET
The duck, the wolf, a tennis ball on the way? so many choices, must be tough to start your day.
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Feb 3 @ 9:17 AM ET
No, I like him because he's the only spectacular guy we have. Granted he only plays one game out of four, but afterall it's a show and once in a while he gives us one.

It surprises me that Asp likes him.

- Fredobface


I've always been beig on the guy. He could score 40, but he won't and until someone else can score 20-25, they need them more than he needs them.
Rtt19
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 08.09.2011

Feb 3 @ 9:17 AM ET
People need to get over where he was drafted and just look at the player, he's a 2nd or 3rd line player who going to score 20+. If he costs under 4 mil per you keep him.
- habby


4 years 16 million sound good?
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Feb 3 @ 9:18 AM ET
They're not going to get a real top line center unless they give something in return.

If the cost is Subban and say, Plekanec + pick, then so be it. I don't give a poop.

I know they won't blow it up, but that's what needs to be done.

- Pecafan Fan



can they really blow it up more than it's already blown up? not sure they can get any worse really....
BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB
Joined: 07.15.2009

Feb 3 @ 9:18 AM ET
Keep Emelein just for his hits..
hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Feb 3 @ 9:18 AM ET
The duck, the wolf, a tennis ball on the way? so many choices, must be tough to start your day.
- habby

I didn't ban him. I'm just deleting his nonsense - i.e. 95% of his posts.
habby
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Maybe because he won best defenceman of the year, that's how they get paid these days-Alex Kovalev
Joined: 08.31.2006

Feb 3 @ 9:18 AM ET
They're not going to get a real top line center unless they give something in return.

If the cost is Subban and say, Plekanec + pick, then so be it. I don't give a poop.
I know they won't blow it up, but that's what needs to be done.

- Pecafan Fan


Depending who it is, I agree with this. Although it would be nice if they found a way to do it without subban. i think Plek, picks and prospects can get it done, especially when you consider why a team would be trading an actual #1 centre.
BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB
Joined: 07.15.2009

Feb 3 @ 9:19 AM ET
I didn't ban him. I'm just deleting his nonsense - i.e. 95% of his posts.
- hscesq

DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Feb 3 @ 9:19 AM ET
It's still interesting when you consider how bad the PP has been. It's a big improvement 5 on 5.
- habby


it goes hand in hand. i think the 5 on 5 improvement is directly related to the PP struggles. we were never as bad a 5-on-5 team these past few years. we just didn't rely on even strength play as much because the PP generated so much of our offense. now that well is dry, and the goals, no matter how bad we are, still have to come from somewhere.
habby
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Maybe because he won best defenceman of the year, that's how they get paid these days-Alex Kovalev
Joined: 08.31.2006

Feb 3 @ 9:19 AM ET
4 years 16 million sound good?
- Rtt19

too much.
hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Feb 3 @ 9:19 AM ET
4 years 16 million sound good?
- Rtt19

A bit less.
Jayden
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 07.30.2010

Feb 3 @ 9:20 AM ET
Keep Emelein just for his hits..
- BingoLady


wells aid
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