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nyi18
New York Islanders
Location: nc, li , NY
Joined: 01.23.2012

Feb 3 @ 11:35 AM ET
At first, I was adamantly against moving PAP. Now, I'm warming up to it. IF and only IF he yields the Isles a solid D-man (top four minimum, no less) or a top defensive prospect (no Wisharts, only guys who are can't miss to be top four d-men) then I'll be happy to move PAP. A guy on pace to score 70 points should bring something like that back. If they can't get that, then ride out the season with PAP and try to re-sign him, if the numbers aren't absurd.
- Jethro09

I honestly don't think pa is going anywhere. He's just been too productive since joining the isles. I can see them moving nielsen before him. And goalie wise I can see them moving montoya before Nabby. Just my opinion.
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Feb 3 @ 11:38 AM ET
I honestly don't think pa is going anywhere. He's just been too productive since joining the isles. I can see them moving nielsen before him. And goalie wise I can see them moving montoya before Nabby. Just my opinion.
- nyi18



why do you think that? not arguing just curious why you think the total opposite of what i think....
Lohaus
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 10.04.2006

Feb 3 @ 11:39 AM ET
I honestly don't think pa is going anywhere. He's just been too productive since joining the isles. I can see them moving nielsen before him. And goalie wise I can see them moving montoya before Nabby. Just my opinion.
- nyi18

I think the question about him is that while he is at a bargain now, but when he becomes a FA, and putting up the numbers he has, history shows us that a team will be willing to spend more money than he is worth, is he still worth it to keep. Meaning, if you as an organzation feel that a team is willing to offer him 4 @ 4.0, would you still not see him being moved?
jimmc7722
New York Islanders
Location: TAVARES IS AN ASS!!!!, ON
Joined: 02.06.2008

Feb 3 @ 11:40 AM ET
If PA doesn't resign with the Isles, I would be surprised.

He has really come into his own here. Why leave now?

Take the money and enjoy the ride!!!

Nielsen... I can understand. The Isles should have extended him last year.

Both guys I would love to have back on this team next year.

I really can't see alot of movement this trade deadline.

Isles need to make a serious run @ one of the two Nashville defenceman, and Parise in the off season.

Do whatever it takes!!!
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Feb 3 @ 11:41 AM ET
tied for dead last in the conference, 11 pts back, 18 or 19 road games left, 25 of 33 remaining games are against teams currently sitting in a playoff spot.

sorry to burst your bubble, but the chances that the isles make the postseason are roughly the same as the chances of peyton suiting up this weekend instead of Eli.

I like the isles, fun team to watch, but if they try to buy at the deadline, garth should get his a$$ fired.

- sensarmy_11


I am just saying what GArth was saying during the interview. We are buyers not sellers. Made me laugh as well but hey we are the Islanders after all
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Feb 3 @ 11:43 AM ET
I honestly don't think pa is going anywhere. He's just been too productive since joining the isles. I can see them moving nielsen before him. And goalie wise I can see them moving montoya before Nabby. Just my opinion.
- nyi18

If they can get a decent, young D-man... Pa is gone. I think PA's play has made him more valuable than other guys Snow was willing to move (anyone not named Tavares, Moulson, or big time prospect). If Snow can get a top 4 d-man he will move just about anyone else ...especially if they are not signed long term.
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Feb 3 @ 11:44 AM ET
i guess thats just your unadulterated opinion against my unadulterated opinion.... we'll see. my thinking is that PAPs value is as high as itll ever be. i just dont see this kind of play continuing for the long term. once defenses start realizing they have to pay attention to the guy, hell plummet....just my opinion....but before you jump on me for saying that (and im not saying by any stretch of the imagination that its the same situation) if the islanders traded grabner during the offseason, the return would have been SIGNIFICANTLY higher than it would be if they traded him now.

point is, garth has to be 3 steps ahead, if he agrees with me that pap wont get better, find a GM who think he will get better. if garth agrees with you, than keep him and hope that production comes with time.

- LetsGoIsles


No I totally understand trading PAP now. I just for some reason dont see it happening unless he brings back guy who can score at this point. He is the only secondary scoring we have at the moment outside of the first line. For me Garth needs to make a package deal and get someone of importance back. This weekend will determine where we stand at the trade deadline. Contenders or Pretenders
jimmc7722
New York Islanders
Location: TAVARES IS AN ASS!!!!, ON
Joined: 02.06.2008

Feb 3 @ 11:45 AM ET
If they can get a decent, young D-man... Pa is gone. I think PA's play has made him more valuable than other guys Snow was willing to move (anyone not named Tavares, Moulson, or big time prospect). If Snow can get a top 4 d-man he will move just about anyone else ...especially if they are not signed long term.
- niteislander



Who will be moving a top 4 defenceman @ the trade deadline?

Teams trade off their FA for draft picks... they get what they can.
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Feb 3 @ 11:48 AM ET
If they can get a decent, young D-man... Pa is gone. I think PA's play has made him more valuable than other guys Snow was willing to move (anyone not named Tavares, Moulson, or big time prospect). If Snow can get a top 4 d-man he will move just about anyone else ...especially if they are not signed long term.
- niteislander



never heard of him

niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Feb 3 @ 11:50 AM ET
Who will be moving a top 4 defenceman @ the trade deadline?

Teams trade off their FA for draft picks... they get what they can.

- jimmc7722

anyone who is waaaaay out of the running... and no cap room.

(come on YANDLE!! .. lol.. fck u I can dream)
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Feb 3 @ 11:51 AM ET
rags trade Christensen for an AHL player.
t_leafs21
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Nylander - Matthews - Marner, forever, ON
Joined: 07.26.2010

Feb 3 @ 11:59 AM ET
Beat Ottawa tonight!!!
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Feb 3 @ 11:59 AM ET
Detroit lost Jimmy Howard for a couple of weeks, I would expect Nabakov to Wings rumors to get heavy.
- jimbro83



Or Philly
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Feb 3 @ 12:02 PM ET
Nabby first off ice, so most likely starting, rolston sits again, thank you cappy for using your brain. Must win both games for isles, huge four points. Especially tomorrow night. Let's go isles!
- nyi18


I don't think rolstons scratching is cappys decision....I think it's snow.
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Feb 3 @ 12:05 PM ET
I don't think rolstons scratching is cappys decision....I think it's snow.
- kindlyrick


Snow would not do that to his best friend. Cappy dont have the kahoonies to do it either and Wang has no clue. Maybe it is the hockey gods benching him.
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Feb 3 @ 12:06 PM ET
I don't think rolstons scratching is cappys decision....I think it's snow.
- kindlyrick


That's a very good sign then.

XxNYIxX
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Feb 3 @ 12:11 PM ET
I honestly don't think pa is going anywhere. He's just been too productive since joining the isles. I can see them moving nielsen before him. And goalie wise I can see them moving montoya before Nabby. Just my opinion.
- nyi18



That just doesn't make sense......

Nabokov comes CHEAP and has been in the playoffs before. Contending teams are gonna want that. Montoya makes more sense long term for the isles.

As for Fransy, he's not meant to be a second line center. He's a defensive forward. He's being misused...
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Feb 3 @ 12:15 PM ET
Snow would not do that to his best friend. Cappy dont have the kahoonies to do it either and Wang has no clue. Maybe it is the hockey gods benching him.
- kasperrko



Capuano I'm sure knows rolstons dead weight......but snow job brought him in and they felt obligated to play him. My guess is, if cappy had his way.....the fourth line woulda been ulstrom, Haley, and Rhakshani at the beginning of the season.
nyi18
New York Islanders
Location: nc, li , NY
Joined: 01.23.2012

Feb 3 @ 12:20 PM ET
why do you think that? not arguing just curious why you think the total opposite of what i think....
- LetsGoIsles

I just think with the way this team has grown with Nabby in net, and the way Nabby has become a locker room voice(we hear) that he's more likely to stay. Granted he probably will be moved before the deadline if we don't win enough games to close the gap a little. And with pa, I just think he has grown so much here, and with these guys, that he could ask for 3-3.5 for two seasons, and I wouldn't mind paying that. Again just my opinion
nyi18
New York Islanders
Location: nc, li , NY
Joined: 01.23.2012

Feb 3 @ 12:23 PM ET
That just doesn't make sense......

Nabokov comes CHEAP and has been in the playoffs before. Contending teams are gonna want that. Montoya makes more sense long term for the isles.

As for Fransy, he's not meant to be a second line center. He's a defensive forward. He's being misused...

- kindlyrick

I know teams want the experience and totally agree that he is way easier to move cuz of that. I think with Nabby it will come down to how far we are out of the po, and weather he would really want to play here for another season. All speculation, but I agree that i see him beong moved over al. I personally would love to keep nabs.
nyi18
New York Islanders
Location: nc, li , NY
Joined: 01.23.2012

Feb 3 @ 12:26 PM ET
That just doesn't make sense......

Nabokov comes CHEAP and has been in the playoffs before. Contending teams are gonna want that. Montoya makes more sense long term for the isles.

As for Fransy, he's not meant to be a second line center. He's a defensive forward. He's being misused...

- kindlyrick

And I agree with you on frans, he is being mis-used
BringBackBalky
New York Islanders
Location: Island Park, NY
Joined: 06.23.2009

Feb 3 @ 12:30 PM ET
NYI put Anton Klementyev on unconditional ($125) waivers, presumably for purposes of mutually-agreed contract termination
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Feb 3 @ 12:33 PM ET
NYI put Anton Klementyev on unconditional ($125) waivers, presumably for purposes of mutually-agreed contract termination
- BringBackBalky


Was he really any good???
BringBackBalky
New York Islanders
Location: Island Park, NY
Joined: 06.23.2009

Feb 3 @ 12:35 PM ET
Was he really any good???
- kasperrko


Using your logic, he was the next best thing which is why they're letting him go
brodydog29
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 09.24.2011

Feb 3 @ 12:35 PM ET
If PA doesn't resign with the Isles, I would be surprised.

He has really come into his own here. Why leave now?

Take the money and enjoy the ride!!!

Nielsen... I can understand. The Isles should have extended him last year.

Both guys I would love to have back on this team next year.

I really can't see alot of movement this trade deadline.

Isles need to make a serious run @ one of the two Nashville defenceman, and Parise in the off season.

Do whatever it takes!!!

- jimmc7722


Only problem is 29 other teams are going to run for the 2 D men and Parise as well. As much as the Isles are improving and have kids like Tavares to use as bargaining chips when talking to FA's they still have many problems. We have Wang running the show, no real home, and no proven coaching staff. Those 3 things alone will keep those guys away. Parise has already said he wants to compete for the cup, not compete for 8th in the conference.

We have to think more realistic in the offseason and pick up more realiable pieces this offseason like Florida did. The one thing going for the Isles is they will have A LOT of money that they HAVE to spend this offseason, plus all of the inbetween cap money but, Wang has mentiond he's not spending that until the future of the team is settled.
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