Lessee ...

Fall behind early ... Check.
Give up go-ahead goal late in second ... Check.
Give up goal right after tying game in third ... Check.

Flyers Hockey.

What's the difference WHEN he was bad? If you let in several weak goals you had a bad game. I'm not happy with the way the Flyers played this game. Too many give-aways, poor team defense, but they were in the game, Bryz let in at least two very week goals at very bad times. I don't think it's out of the question to say he is the major contributor in this loss.
- Dkos

What I'm trying to explain is simply this. Bryzgalov let in a couple of goals that he has to make the save on. We all know that. But he also made a lot of quality saves, that you don't just ignore. Is it good enough? No, it's not.

Like I said a couple pages back- its too easy to blame the netminder, when flicking between the game and xbox.

To sit here and not see two goalies get aired out by poop play two days in a row and not want to look closer at the problem is very telling.

No Bryzgalov did not have his best game but neither did the Flyers in failing to close on golden opportunities in the other end. Everyone swears up and down in this town if Carter(myself included) scores on that open netter in Game 6 of the SCF's that there's a cup parade at least a game 7. However now because we like the guys up front no one wants to hold them accountable. Just the same as no one wants to run a hate Bob campaign for yesterday. It's conveniant to blame one guy and not the other that's for damn sure.
- JoeRussomanno

Well, Morganti bashed him pretty bad, I guess he doesn't know puck from duck for it.

What's the difference WHEN he was bad? If you let in several weak goals you had a bad game. I'm not happy with the way the Flyers played this game. Too many give-aways, poor team defense, but they were in the game, Bryz let in at least two very week goals at very bad times. I don't think it's out of the question to say he is the major contributor in this loss.
- Dkos

Aren't you answering your own question here?

tpanotchCSN Tim Panaccio
not sure if #flyers have humongous big SB party planned after Lost Weekend

this is why i can't stand panotch
- funmaster18

he acts like a middle school girl sometimes ( no offense to middle school girls)

It's irrelevant how much money you throw at him. It's not going to change the odds on the number of quality chances the Flyers give up, which are way too many, from being tilted in their favor. If you think otherwise go down to the casinos and bet big money constantly on roulette and tell me how wealthy you end up.
- JoeRussomanno

Rangers gave up alot of quality chances too. They have the better goalie

It wasn't so much the bad goals that bothered me as much as it was the timing of the bad goals. They were back breakers. Bryz made some big saves as well, but those bad goals, the 5 seconds left one and the short side shot from the circle really hurt.

This epidemic of defensive breakdowns and poor team defense is starting to wear very thin.

Sure the Flyers came back a few times but it never felt to me like they really had a chance to win. The Rangers are just clearly a better team from the goalie on out. They play their system better than the Flyers play theirs, and Henrik is there to erase any mistakes more times than not.
- MBFlyerfan

Well said. The Rangers play as a team. The Flyers did not today.

All Im gonna say is the Flyers play more like the Rangers do defensively and Bryz's numbers will look more like Lundqvist's. This team played great defensively two years ago through the playoffs and made it to the finals with Boucher and Leighton. Bryzgalov is a much better goalie than either but that doesn't mean you play like poop in front of him and expect to win every game either.
- JoeRussomanno

No question and thats been the problem most of the season, I just thought three of those goals (two at the least) were stoppable today. He has to make those saves today when your playing the 1st place team in the division.

5 more goals against Flyers today.Hartnel Simmonds for Schneider Ballard must be looking good now.
- vancouverdawg

that deal will never look good

tpanotchCSN Tim Panaccio
not sure if #flyers have humongous big SB party planned after Lost Weekend

this is why i can't stand panotch
- funmaster18

4real?? That's atrocious for a guy his age. He's beyond jaded.

Rangers gave up alot of quality chances too. They have the better goalie
- Richieattack18

and the Flyers missed three open nets. I'm sorry but missing a gaping wide open net at point blank bothers me a whole lot more than a goalie struggling to stop shots by some of the better forwards in the league.

Just saw the 2nd and 3rd Ranger goals.

Yikes.

that deal will never look good
- Marc D

You can have all the good forwards you want but no goaltending and defense ,you will not be going far.

What I'm trying to explaian is simply this. Bryzgalov let in a couple of goals that he has to make the save on. We all know that. But he also made a lot of quality saves, that you don't just ignore. Is it good enough? No, it's not.
- MJL

You don't feel a little worried about the Flyers' goaltending?

4real?? That's atrocious for a guy his age. He's beyond jaded.
- rockychocbill

he's not even jaded
he just thinks he's funny

5 more goals against Flyers today.Hartnel Simmonds for Schneider Ballard must be looking good now.
- vancouverdawg

Ha ha. I live in VanCity dude. Ballard is on the bubble for going to play with the Wolves in Chicago.

and the Flyers missed three open nets. I'm sorry but missing a gaping wide open net at point blank bothers me a whole lot more than a goalie struggling to stop shots by some of the better forwards in the league.
- JoeRussomanno

The bottom line is that it is all encompassing. The missed opportunities, the team defensive breakdowns and turnovers. And the bad goals let in. They are all equally responsible for the loss today. I look at the entire game and team. I look at each play and see what really happened, and at all the culprits that are culpable. And not just pick and choose who I want to blame, while ignoring the rest.

You can have all the good forwards you want but no goaltending and defense ,you will not be going far.
- vancouverdawg

simmonds would be perfect for the canucks
but send edler back then we can talk

You can have all the good forwards you want but no goaltending and defense ,you will not be going far.
- vancouverdawg

So if we had schneider maybe we lose 4-2 instead of 5-2. No thanks I'll keep these guys until the right deal comes along.

simmonds would be perfect for the canucks
but send edler back then we can talk
- Marc D

Edler is a UFA after the season I believe.

Ha ha. I live in VanCity dude. Ballard is on the bubble for going to play with the Wolves in Chicago.
- rockychocbill

He has been one of the better D for the last four games now that he is playing on his proper side. Try turning your tv on.

Just drink up

simmonds would be perfect for the canucks
but send edler back then we can talk
- Marc D

Not a chance pal .

Edler is a UFA after the season I believe.
- stveshdy

he'll get a big paycheck no doubt.

I'd take him over Matt Carle, and I am a fan of Carle (even with the turn over, he is an assist machine)
Edler has one more year at 3.25M, then UFA.
Van will lock him up to a long term deal without doubt.

Edler is a UFA after the season I believe.
- stveshdy

One more year after this.He is going nowhere.