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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 7 @ 12:33 PM ET
Thanks, but I'll stick to the opinions from hockey analysits that say any deal for JVR would be for a "PACKAGE" that would include Luke Schenn.

That means JVR is expected to land L.Schenn +

- RooNosHockey



Is that what that means? LOL And where have I said differently?
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Feb 7 @ 12:35 PM ET
I put the word out on Hockeybuzz. It's just easier to have people join who like different teams. I only know my cousin personally (The Leafs). Everyone else is from this site.
- Schenn2shine

so you dont know his hb name?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 7 @ 12:35 PM ET
By that logic, JVR is worth more, because he was selected 2nd overall.
- bradleyc4



Well then I think I didn't make my point clearly, becasue that isn't what I was alluding to.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 7 @ 12:35 PM ET
It's interesting his name isn't being brought up more in trade rumors. Well I guess if JVR were healthy he would. I'd rather sell high on Read than low on JVR. But neither is one I really want to trade.

But to answer your question I think he's worth a mid to late round 1st.

- hereticpride

He's also worth a lot to the Flyers at $900k a year for the production he'll give for two more years. You really need to keep that kind of productive, low-cost guy.
Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Feb 7 @ 12:36 PM ET
so you dont know his hb name?
- Crimsoninja

What team is he?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 7 @ 12:37 PM ET
Can Luke Schenn and Scott Stevens be compared? I've always known as a hard hitting stay at home defenseman but Stevens has put up some very good numbers. Nearing the end of his career the offense disappeared to his usual numbers he was still a decent defensive defenseman.
- Schenn2shine



No I don't think so. Hard to compare a young defenseman with potential, and the unknow that comes with that, to a HOF defenseman.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Feb 7 @ 12:38 PM ET
He's also worth a lot to the Flyers at $900k a year for the production he'll give for two more years. You really need to keep that kind of productive, low-cost guy.
- bodiva88

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 7 @ 12:38 PM ET
It's interesting his name isn't being brought up more in trade rumors. Well I guess if JVR were healthy he would. I'd rather sell high on Read than low on JVR. But neither is one I really want to trade.

But to answer your question I think he's worth a mid to late round 1st.

- hereticpride



I have zero interest in trading Matt Read.
Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Feb 7 @ 12:38 PM ET
No I don't think so. Hard to compare a young defenseman with potential, and the unknow that comes with that, to a HOF defenseman.
- MJL

I guess that's the type of player the Leafs have always hoped Schenn would become.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 7 @ 12:40 PM ET
I have zero interest in trading Matt Read.
- MJL

With the injury to JVR nor do I. Just answering the question.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Feb 7 @ 12:40 PM ET
What team is he?
- Schenn2shine

oil
Buts16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: big masters of the puck
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 7 @ 12:40 PM ET
He's also worth a lot to the Flyers at $900k a year for the production he'll give for two more years. You really need to keep that kind of productive, low-cost guy.
- bodiva88


I wouldn't trade Read for a 1st.

A 1st is a usually a gamble, Read isn't.

In his short time in Philly he has shown to be a very versatile player that can play all 3 positions and score probably 25+ as well play solid defense.

The kid is a keeper and quite a shrewd signing by the Flyers. I know you know this.
Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Feb 7 @ 12:42 PM ET
oil
- Crimsoninja

Oilersforlife

I lost to him in OT last night. I was leading most of the game and he tied it with a minute left.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Feb 7 @ 12:43 PM ET
I wouldn't trade Read for a 1st.

A 1st is a usually a gamble, Read isn't.

In his short time in Philly he has shown to be a very versatile player that can play all 3 positions and score probably 25+ as well play solid defense.

The kid is a keeper and quite a shrewd signing by the Flyers. I know you know this.

- Buts16

andy is a shifty dude

shades of marchand but not a scumbag, imo
lindros8888
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: hatboro, PA
Joined: 03.03.2009

Feb 7 @ 12:44 PM ET
No way in Hell Toronto sends Schenn AND their 1st for JVR and a 3rd. Maybe if JVR was playing like he was in the playoffs all this year but the fact is the guy is banged up and likely needs surgery.

If you want Toronto's 1st and Schenn it's gonna cost something like Read, a 2nd and maybe a 3rd.

- hereticpride


JVR being younger has more upside then Read.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Feb 7 @ 12:44 PM ET
Trade JVR HE SUCKS!
Buts16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: big masters of the puck
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 7 @ 12:45 PM ET
andy is a shifty dude

shades of marchand but not a scumbag, imo

- Crimsoninja


I think the Flyers could use a few scumbags that can play 10+ minutes
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 7 @ 12:45 PM ET
With the injury to JVR nor do I. Just answering the question.
- hereticpride



Even if JVR wasn't hurt, I wouldn't want to. Unless the return was too good to pass up. Too much value versus Cap hit there.
steelydan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 04.16.2009

Feb 7 @ 12:47 PM ET
Trade JVR HE SUCKS!
- Philly1980


Give it a rest......
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Feb 7 @ 12:48 PM ET
IS JVR traded yet? .... still waiting
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Feb 7 @ 12:49 PM ET
Give it a rest......
- steelydan


JVR Lover!
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Feb 7 @ 12:56 PM ET
mood?
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Feb 7 @ 12:56 PM ET
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 7 @ 12:56 PM ET
mood?
- hammarby31


kinky
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Feb 7 @ 12:58 PM ET
mood?
- hammarby31



some stupidity.

by the way, we are testing the theory again. I'm going to the game tonight
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