You do know as soon as the TDL comes and goes, there'll be the dissatisfied fans who begin looking to draft day trades we have to make, right?
- BulliesPhan87

I don't know why I come here. So few people want to see the team that's there and talk about the games. It's all GM all the time. And that's the one role in a hockey team I never fantasized about having.

Voracek certainly has shown that he has a lot more jam than he was given credit for. It would help his value if he started to pot a few. But I'm really pleased with the progress he's made this year.

I don't know why I come here. So few people want to see the team that's there and talk about the games. It's all GM all the time. And that's the one role in a hockey team I never fantasized about having.
- bodiva88

This time of year, it's contagious. Regardless of any scenario, the key is not making a bad deal. No deal is better than a bad one. And yes, fire is hot

I'd have no problem with acquiring Hal Gill. He has been very good in the post-season with Montreal. He and Gorges were the one's responsible for shutting down Crosby and Ovechkin when they made their ECF run in 2010.
- LordStanley88

Hal Gill is the one who decides whether or not Crosby wins a Cup.

Voracek is better than both combined he's staying JVARGH fakes injuries he can shove off
- 2Real

Just stop......

If it's Schenn it's because Burke wants JvR.

Johnson, if not for JvR, might be had for a Voracek package. The Kings need offense.
- Jsaquella

Voracek and their second round pick back.

What about Flyers fans makes you think getting a young defenseman that will get better is the way they'll want to go? They still think Carle is the same player he was when he got here. Every player stays in their minds as he was when he arrived.

I kind of wish we could keep the mid-career defensemen we've already been through growing pains with (Carle and Coby). Keep the young guys who's growing pains will be at least our own guys growing pains (Gusty and MAB). Keep the guy who needed a change of scenery (Meszaros) and find someone to replace the fully mature player we sadly will likely not see again (Pronger). But do you do that now? Or when Timmo's deal is up?
- bodiva88

You do it when the opportunity arrives. Carle will cost alot more than JJ.

I don't like JJ for 4 million...the sound of that makes me want to gag

I don't know why I come here. So few people want to see the team that's there and talk about the games. It's all GM all the time. And that's the one role in a hockey team I never fantasized about having.
- bodiva88

Sorry Bo. Know what you mean. Ive been sucked into it a lot haha. Need to get back to the old days of posting random crazy poop.

There are topics here that go on and on. Forsberg. J-Bow. Kovy. Carter/Richards. Stamkos. You name it.

Whats new my sweet sassy lass?

I don't like JJ for 4 million...the sound of that makes me want to gag
- Flyers4Life88

And here I thought we had a chance.

Just stop......
- steelydan

he is better

I don't like JJ for 4 million...the sound of that makes me want to gag
- Flyers4Life88

ok would you rather have jbow?

What about Flyers fans makes you think getting a young defenseman that will get better is the way they'll want to go? They still think Carle is the same player he was when he got here. Every player stays in their minds as he was when he arrived.

I kind of wish we could keep the mid-career defensemen we've already been through growing pains with (Carle and Coby). Keep the young guys who's growing pains will be at least our own guys growing pains (Gusty and MAB). Keep the guy who needed a change of scenery (Meszaros) and find someone to replace the fully mature player we sadly will likely not see again (Pronger). But do you do that now? Or when Timmo's deal is up?
- bodiva88

I'll probably get laughed off the net but if we can keep the guys we have on the Blueline and just build that would be perfect in my book. People say they are tired of this guy or that and want someone they think will be the knight in shining armor.
Its like married people getting divorced because they can't deal with the issues already entwined in a marriage when the partner isn't the issue. Hope I didn't get too deep there trying to do a paper for school and talking hockey throws me out of character

anyway yes we have gone through some growing pains with this group and there is a lot more to sports than swapping in and out parts. Sometimes trades work wonderfully for teams but a lot of times they don't. Does the defense need help? yes but I don't want to overturn half the roster to get it. This is a young team that needs to grow. For all we know MAB and Gustafson could be Beast and Howe in 3-4 years then what? I'm sorry but under no circumstances do I want to trade Couturier or Schenn at this point. I do not want to trade JVR either. IF we must trade one of them it better be good gosh darn deal. Team just needs to grow IMHO and their franchise goalie needs perhaps some more time to adapt. People just need some patience.

I'll probably get laughed off the net but if we can keep the guys we have on the Blueline and just build that would be perfect in my book. People say they are tired of this guy or that and want someone they think will be the knight in shining armor.
Its like married people getting divorced because they can't deal with the issues already entwined in a marriage when the partner isn't the issue. Hope I didn't get too deep there trying to do a paper for school and talking hockey throws me out of character

anyway yes we have gone through some growing pains with this group and there is a lot more to sports than swapping in and out parts. Sometimes trades work wonderfully for teams but a lot of times they don't. Does the defense need help? yes but I don't want to overturn half the roster to get it. This is a young team that needs to grow. For all we know MAB and Gustafson could be Beast and Howe in 3-4 years then what? I'm sorry but under no circumstances do I want to trade Couturier or Schenn at this point. I do not want to trade JVR either. IF we must trade one of them it better be good gosh darn deal. Team just needs to grow IMHO and their franchise goalie needs perhaps some more time to adapt. People just need some patience.
- JoeRussomanno

My mother warned me about you educated folk

My mother warned me about you educated folk
- flyer_nutter

Trust me I'm doing it for the piece of paper b/c I have the spine of an 80 year old man. Otherwise blue collar work would be all me

I don't like JJ for 4 million...the sound of that makes me want to gag
- Flyers4Life88

I think the potential of the cap hit being a bargain is much greater then the risk of it being an overpayment

Trust me I'm doing it for the piece of paper b/c I have the spine of an 80 year old man. Otherwise blue collar work would be all me
- JoeRussomanno

So you're saying you're a bendy one.

Ohh baby!

So you're saying you're a bendy one.

Ohh baby!
- flyer_nutter

quite the contrary I don't bend well

ok would you rather have jbow?
- 2Real

Absolutely not, Schultz from Washington, 25 y.o. playoff experience...idk if he's been in the lineup for the caps or not lately

quite the contrary I don't bend well
- JoeRussomanno

Scolio?

I was born with that. Gotten much better. Cant notice and no issues.

Scolio?

I was born with that. Gotten much better. Cant notice and no issues.
- flyer_nutter

No, car accident blew out 5 discs in my neck and back.
Good to hear your better. I wouldn't wish these issues on anyone.

I'll probably get laughed off the net but if we can keep the guys we have on the Blueline and just build that would be perfect in my book. People say they are tired of this guy or that and want someone they think will be the knight in shining armor.
Its like married people getting divorced because they can't deal with the issues already entwined in a marriage when the partner isn't the issue. Hope I didn't get too deep there trying to do a paper for school and talking hockey throws me out of character

anyway yes we have gone through some growing pains with this group and there is a lot more to sports than swapping in and out parts. Sometimes trades work wonderfully for teams but a lot of times they don't. Does the defense need help? yes but I don't want to overturn half the roster to get it. This is a young team that needs to grow. For all we know MAB and Gustafson could be Beast and Howe in 3-4 years then what? I'm sorry but under no circumstances do I want to trade Couturier or Schenn at this point. I do not want to trade JVR either. IF we must trade one of them it better be good gosh darn deal. Team just needs to grow IMHO and their franchise goalie needs perhaps some more time to adapt. People just need some patience.
- JoeRussomanno

I, for one, agree with you 100%! Excellent perspective. It's amazing how antsy in their pantsy people get about trades, and I'm sorry if names like Gill, Allen, or Gleason (G.A.G) never quite piqued my interest. Stay the course, Flyers!

Absolutely not, Schultz from Washington, 25 y.o. playoff experience...idk if he's been in the lineup for the caps or not lately
- Flyers4Life88

not dressing. just a lug.

No, car accident blew out 5 discs in my neck and back.
Good to hear your better. I wouldn't wish these issues on anyone.
- JoeRussomanno

sorry to hear that. my c2/3 damaged the nerve when I was in my accident...nasty headaches most every day. hope you're better off.

I, for one, agree with you 100%! Excellent perspective. It's amazing how antsy in their pantsy people get about trades, and I'm sorry if names like Gill, Allen, or Gleason (G.A.G) never quite piqued my interest. Stay the course, Flyers!
- countreeman28

I wouldn't mind having any of those guys but not at the expense of anything more than a Phantom or late round pick.

Oh meant to say this earlier but at the game last night I saw Carle give a few nice shots behind the play- i.e he is not soft. Does he play bonecrushing hockey? No but his style of play is necessary. If we didn't have him things would be worse than they are. Yes he had a couple bad plays last night but so what? it happens just like once in a while the goalie is gonna give up one he wished he had back. People just gotta go with it at this point. I think not just flyer fans but sports fans in general are conditioned to be in this trade mentality.
Granted there is times for trades but right now this group of players has a ton of potential. We might not see it coming this year, but believe me we are sitting on a gold mine of a hockey team people.