True, we swept the Sharks when he was in net...but looking at his numbers over the last few years, he was a pretty damn good goalie (12W/12L currently this season):
Recent Career
Year Team GP GS MIN W L T OTL EGA GA GAA SA SV SV% SO
2008-09 SJ 62 62 3686 41 12 0 8 0 150 2.44 1663 1513 .910 7
2009-10 SJ 71 71 4194 44 16 0 10 2 170 2.43 2168 1998 .922 3
- Murph76

Those are regular season stats. Luongo's look the same, and he is the main reason the Canucks have not Won the cup. I dont understand why everyone is so hard on Emery. Landeskog's goal was a snipe and so was Jones' so whats the problem? Keith turned the puck over on the second and the first was awful d-zone.

Stats, smats. The guy gives up bad goals at critical points in the game. Always has, always will. We've had (have?) more than our fair share of those guys in recent years.
- Hal9000y2k

It didn't work out for Mike Singletary the head coach, but what he said remains paramount...

"I want winners...i want people that want to win".

Sadly, it doesn't look like Stan Bum Man fits into that profile. He's too busy sniffing what Mc D had for dinner last night. He has time to sort it out...but ACTIONS..not platitudes are what count from here on out.

Stats, smats. The guy gives up bad goals at critical points in the game. Always has, always will. We've had (have?) more than our fair share of those guys in recent years.
- Hal9000y2k

Ok, so do Crawford and Emery at this point though. A Nabakov/Emery tandem could be pretty good...no? @ nickmo2699, I would want Emery to stay...not Crawford.

In this day of overstatification (?what?) I'm surprised face-offs wins / loses aren't broken down by zone. Or at least more readily available if they are kept.
- Hal9000y2k

They are, kind of. Not by zone, but PP/PK. Most PK are defensive zone, and most PP offensive zone. It's not perfect, but it gives you an idea.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/pl...Name=faceOffPercentageAll

Ok, so do Crawford and Emery at this point though. A Nabakov/Emery tandem could be pretty good...no? @ nickmo2699, I would want Emery to stay...not Crawford.
- Murph76

I'll never give up on Crawford. His D corps has been crud in front of him lately, and granted he hasn't been sharp, i'll still take him over just about any other goalie outside of Miller or Brodeur.

John Jaeckel: Interesting Late Night Tip
- John Jaeckel

JJ,

What was that you were saying earlier about the shelf life of a coach?

I'll never give up on Crawford. His D corps has been crud in front of him lately, and granted he hasn't been sharp, i'll still take him over just about any other goalie outside of Miller or Brodeur.
- philco28

Agree to disagree I suppose

Rick Telander's article in the Sun Times today is a MUST READ!

http://www.suntimes.com/s...-deserves-some-blame.html

JJ, I was just thinking this a few days back. This is no surprise, and although the defense is suspect this team is still not as bad as it has played that they lose 6 in a row. I believe the offense needs to go back to a defense first mentality. It seems to me from observing that too many guys are focusing on the stat sheet rather than keeping the puck out of their own net. What we need badly for this team is someone like John Madden, not exactly John Madden as he is too slow at this stage of his career but someone on offense like him on offense to be more defensive minded. Our goaltending is not suspect as most think, its the over working of our number 1 line of keith and seabiscuits. If anything we could use a burish, as well as someone on defense that can put the beat down on teams. I would say two bruisers on defense, and if they cost more than what we wanna spend, too bad get them otherwise we might as well call it a day. Our team as is, is too soft too compete. And we sure as heck can't afford to throw John Scott out every game as he does nothing but start a fight.

Agree to disagree I suppose
- Murph76

I agree with Philco half-way...not ready to give up on Crow...this year. I have advocated since his immature response to a second goal in a Nashville game (just before the break) that he needed a seat behind Emery--but not out the door. It's the boys in front coughing up the puck and lazily pinching who have taxed Crow's confidence more than anything. Not sure why the D men would be (allegedly) pissed at Crawford---he can't cover the defensive zone all by himself. I certainly don't want to see a goalie demonstrating on the ice, but in the locker room, GREAT! Give those guys some grief and set expectations high. A little defiance goes a long way for a goalie...ask Fuhr or Sawchuk (don't wait for reply) or Hall or Roy.

Nabokov as the answer? Only if he coaches special teams or can take shifts from Bickell/Scott...

Rick Telander's article in the Sun Times today is a MUST READ!

http://www.suntimes.com/s...-deserves-some-blame.html
- hawks2010

Where is Hockey City?

Rick Telander's article in the Sun Times today is a MUST READ!

http://www.suntimes.com/s...-deserves-some-blame.html
- hawks2010

Does this guy usually write on the Hawks? I've never seen his name before..

Rick Telander's article in the Sun Times today is a MUST READ!

http://www.suntimes.com/s...-deserves-some-blame.html
- hawks2010

telander and must read -- like jumbo and shrimp

Where is Hockey City?
- Al

Next county over from the Emerald City, has that yellow road.

Personaly I would love to see a line of Shaw-Meyers-Burrish

Does this guy usually write on the Hawks? I've never seen his name before..
- pri$ey

Former SI feature writer...

Not a beat writer but a local guy who is a feature writer for Times...

Next county over from the Emerald City, has that yellow road.
- Leerock

On the way to Xanudu...

Personaly I would love to see a line of Shaw-Meyers-Burrish
- blkhwkfn

I'd to see a line of Hossa-Gaborik and Iginla but that's just me.

The last thing I ask everyone is to form your own opinions. Everyone has jumped down my throat and called me a "polyanna" because I disagree that the sky is falling. Am I not allowed?

I have to agree with JJ. You're credibility is shot. You were the same guy constantly saying wait until Christmas and if things aren't going well, then changes can be made. Crawford's play, the defense, the losing streaks . . . that was all part of the process and this team would turn it around by then. Now you are saying wait until the end of the season.

This team has lost six games in a row, eight games in a row on the road, they are the only team in the entire league - and think about some of the miserable teams we are talking about - that doesn't have a shutout. They are near the very bottom in the league is goals given up and goals against average as well as being near the bottom with the PK. And this is just scratching the surface of their problems. Yet, you haven't seen enough to think they need to do something.

Furthermore, you're last comment is laughable because whenever anyone does form their own opinion, you are one of the first ones on here making your snide remarks like, "What do you know, the sky didn't fall today" or "Wow the Hawks won and nobody had to get traded." You fight for the right to voice your own opinion - which you are entitled to - but then try to make everyone else out to be panicking or impatient when they don't agree with your "let's wait until Christmas . . . uh . . . no, I mean let's wait until the All-Star break . . . er . . . I mean let's wait until the end of the season before we do anything" outlook.

I'd to see a line of Hossa-Gaborik and Iginla but that's just me.
- Leerock

I'd like to see Hull, Esposito and Maki.

Ain't gonna happen either.

Ok, so do Crawford and Emery at this point though. A Nabakov/Emery tandem could be pretty good...no? @ nickmo2699, I would want Emery to stay...not Crawford.
- Murph76

I don't see the point in a "meet the new goalie, same as the old goalie" approach. I generally think Bowman has to be given more (a little) time before he can be fairly evaluated but letting Niemi get away still makes my blood boil. Another poster noted Singletary's quote about winners. I don't think this can be emphasized enough. Some guys are winners and some guys are losers. Talent level has little to do with which category a guy falls into. It's internal. Niemi found a way to win. If he gave up 5 goals it was usually a game where to Hawks scored 6. If he gave up 1 the Hawks scored 2. Playing hockey is difficult when you don't have confidence in your goalie. And here we are, AGAIN, with a #1 waving at 60 ft. wrist shots and constantly losing his net and a backup with a hip that could explode anytime that the jury is still out on. For this alone, if I see Bowman on the steet he's getting a noogie! There's a "grass is greener" undertone on these threads that drives me nuts. Our guys suck. The players we let go all belong in the HOF. Blah, blah, blah.... If this post throws me in that category, so be it.

Does this guy usually write on the Hawks? I've never seen his name before..
- pri$ey

No he doesn't...but it's a slow day in the baseball and football world so why not trot over a take a peak a team Blackhawk. He must have heard that all is not well.

Nothing in that article that a regular on this blog could not do.

Team identity...yeah it is a problem. 6-8 of the forwards have no clue what their role is. Other than Toews, Hossa, Kane and Sharp, it's a constant elevator trip between the 1st and 4th line for the remaining forwards.

Even Morrison in his 4 games has gotten ride on Q-vator line assembly.

On what basis do any of you think bringing a player or 2 in here is going to help the last 2 months?

It takes alot game and practice time for any new guy to find his role and "chemistry" with new players if it happens at all. And finding a role on this team is even harder.

Nabokov?? Are you kidding me?? They bring a new goalie at this point...Craw and Emery are finished here and the rest team psyche may never recover!!

Folks there is no "save the Hawks a$#@$ss" trade out there. They either pull out of this nose dive with what they got or they limp along the rest of the season. At this point 95 points looks like it is slipping away.

I'd like to see Hull, Esposito and Maki.

Ain't gonna happen either.
- StLBravesFan

Pappin-Martin-D. Hull

I agree with Philco half-way...not ready to give up on Crow...this year. I have advocated since his immature response to a second goal in a Nashville game (just before the break) that he needed a seat behind Emery--but not out the door. It's the boys in front coughing up the puck and lazily pinching who have taxed Crow's confidence more than anything. Not sure why the D men would be (allegedly) pissed at Crawford---he can't cover the defensive zone all by himself. I certainly don't want to see a goalie demonstrating on the ice, but in the locker room, GREAT! Give those guys some grief and set expectations high. A little defiance goes a long way for a goalie...ask Fuhr or Sawchuk (don't wait for reply) or Hall or Roy.

Nabokov as the answer? Only if he coaches special teams or can take shifts from Bickell/Scott...
- HealthyScratch1

Definitley not the answer on his own, and maybe not the answer at all...things suck for this team from the top on down, as many have said (including Crawford with all his undeniable softies IMO).

[quote=bogiedoc]No he doesn't...but it's a slow day in the baseball and football world so why not trot over a take a peak a team Blackhawk. He must have heard that all is not well.

Nothing in that article that a regular on this blog could not do.

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I have to give him credit for getting through a whole article without mentioning that he played football for Northwestern (?). When you consider the NW sports era he played in, that's a bit like bragging that you were first in your GED class at Marion Correctional. That move he pulled on Probert in the bar (challenging his sobriety) showed what an incredible stroke Telander is...and then he used the story as a lead in to his obit story about Probert in the Sun-Times. Even Murdoch would retch...