Barkann, who is monumentally stupid, apparently missed the puking Bryz of Weds through Friday and was insinuating he wasn't really sick because last night he was on the bench to see Bob play. He seemed to think Bryz was in the two prior games. I'm just tired of every goal Bryz giving up being "soft" and Bob being SO much better that Bryz (really? You think so now?) and every loss being the fault of the goalies and none of the wins. Win as a team, lose as a team.

I feel like the forwards are all so caught up in their scoring woes that they've completely forgotten about the other end and that is screwing up everyone. The support has been atrocious from outlets on out. You can't hang around the blueline and not expect turnovers when the D is being pressed on their way out. You can't completely forget where you are on the ice on the PK so all of you are clustered like peewees in the slot.
- bodiva88

Defense is a team effort. And I completely agree with you. It just seems like everyone is looking around and waiting for the next guy to make the play. They are all collapsing in, instead of stepping up and pressuring the puck. It's become painfully obvious that teams know that it's taking the Flyers 3,4, and sometimes 5 opportunities to score where as it's taking them 1. The past two games it seemed like huge chuncks of time were spent in the offensive zone and somehow miraculously the Flyers were outscored during those stretches. It's not a good formula.

i see what you did there

yes but saying everything is sunshine and lollipops when it isn't is also wrong
- 2Real

I think moderation (pardon the pun) is needed. With their record since the ASG, it's obvious all is not right. They're not as bad as the most negative posters would claim and they're not as good as the most positive posters would claim. The most correct posters on this thread have been from the Rangers' and Red Wings' fanbases.

So what's our consensus?
- BulliesPhan87

I have let loose my dogs of war into the Wasteland.

here's the quote
"Never forget what you are, for surely the world will not. Make it your strength. Then it can never be your weakness. Armor yourself in it, and then it will never be used to hurt you."
- 2Real

Is this a bryz quote?

Is this a bryz quote?
- funmaster18

no game of thrones

I think moderation (pardon the pun) is needed. With their record since the ASG, it's obvious all is not right. They're not as bad as the most negative posters would claim and they're not as good as the most positive posters would claim. The most correct posters on this thread have been from the Rangers' and Red Wings' fanbases.
- Flyskippy

so the way i see it is... we have 2 extremes on this site:
very positive people and very negative people

so i think it's safe to say the truth is somewhere in the middle

the flyers have a bright future with many lingering shadows

I have let loose my dogs of war into the Wasteland.
- Flyskippy

Cry havoc! and let slip the dogs of war!

I know this is gonna have peeps want me sent out to get my head checked but here we go. As of right now despite a sudden rash of losses, I personally feel good about this team going forward. Yes they are struggling, yes the goalies have not always looked good, yes lavy has me shaking my head at times etc etc.

Here's the thing guys. This is a YOUNG team. It was accepted before the start of the season that they would go through growing pains. Despite all these losses they still sit in 4th place of the Eastern Conference. They are on pace to still hit 100 points. We have some very talented players on this team that with time will be perennial allstars. Right now the biggest problem is PK and overall team defense. These two things could easily get fixed in a hurry. No trades aren't going to be the end all.

I got aggravated on the other thread because a poster made the remark that this team took both weekends off. I'm sorry but if you feel that way go jump on NY's bandwagon. This team battled hard in these games. Maybe Timmonen was right that there were guys that half assed it out there but overall this team gave a full effort.


For all Timmonen tongue lashing he was the one who could not keep a puck in a the line and then took the penalty. Who is he to talk?
Anyway Joe keep drinking the koolaid but things are not as rosy as you see it. I like to call a spade a spade and I do not like what I am seeing as the team is heading for disaster. Sure hope I am wrong.

We keep railing about missing Pronger but I think another guy this team could use in a big way right now is Blair Betts. Couturier having to center for Sestito and Rinaldo is not in this team's best interest imo. That's not knocking cooter either. He's going to be an elite center. For goodness sakes he's 18 y/o and holding his own in the NHL that has to make you feel good. But getting back to the 4th line they can't keep rolling all rookies on that line. Maybe Homer can pick up a center at the deadline to fill that gap. Then you have the issue of where to put couturier, I'm not sure but as this season goes on it's looking more and more like Danny Briere is oddman out at center to me. If he could play wing I think that utilizes some of the other players a lot better.

This team is built to compete now but win for the future. IF you can't understand that then don't watch the game and go play XBOX. The Flyers front office has done a terrific job accumulating this amount of young talent and being able to compete with them. I know it sucks right now to watch them lose. But you have to see the silver lining with this team. This isn't the team from last year that was favored to win the cup at midseason and swan dived in the second half. The adversity this young group is going through will temper them into a championship caliber team down the line. Will it be this year? Probably not but going forward you have to feel good about, Giroux, Schenn, Couturier, Read etc. I mean even Rinaldo and Sestito are going to be top-notch in their roles. Coburn, Carle and Mezy are all still young too. Maybe Kimo isn't the guy to lead that D-corps. I know when Pronger is in there they look better, just saying.

Keep your head up flyer fans this team has tremendous upside you even had a wings fan pop in to tell you as much.
- JoeRussomanno

no game of thrones
- 2Real

When does it start back up?

ALL OUT WAR
- 2Real

I'm tired, can't we have part way out war?

When does it start back up?
- funmaster18

April, I think. Soon!

So what's our consensus?
- BulliesPhan87

When does it start back up?
- funmaster18

i think april

I'm tired, can't we have part way out war?
- BulliesPhan87

sure go be the cannon fodder i mean the front line

April, I think. Soon!
- bodiva88

Nice. The end was cool, but wasn't happy with some of the decisions they made with one of the main characters

I wish everyone would stop attacking every new poster as though he were an alt. You don't know, so stop the stupid speculation.

Address the guys you have on here with respect and leave the modding to the mods.
- bodiva88

Shouldn't it go both ways?

I'm tired, can't we have part way out war?
- BulliesPhan87

Shouldn't it go both ways?
- MBFlyerfan

every action has an equal opposite reaction

so the way i see it is... we have 2 extremes on this site:
very positive people and very negative people

so i think it's safe to say the truth is somewhere in the middle

the flyers have a bright future with many lingering shadows
- 2Real

Nope. I have voiced my doubts about the goalies. Remember when we agreed (wince) about getting Bryz instead of going with Bob and a backup?

The truth might be in the middle but I don't see this site as being polarized. Even the semi-positive get lumped into the "extreme" category. The extreme negative posts are quite evident on a daily basis - as is the absence of many used-to-be regular posters who have found other ways to have intelligent discourse.

Nope. I have voiced my doubts about the goalies. Remember when we agreed (wince) about getting Bryz instead of going with Bob and a backup?

The truth might be in the middle but I don't see this site as being polarized. Even the semi-positive get lumped into the "extreme" category. The extreme negative posts are quite evident on a daily basis - as is the absence of many used-to-be regular posters who have found other ways to have intelligent discourse.
- Flyskippy

because people disagree about a top doesn't make them unintelligent
disagreeing is part of life

Nope. I have voiced my doubts about the goalies. Remember when we agreed (wince) about getting Bryz instead of going with Bob and a backup?

The truth might be in the middle but I don't see this site as being polarized. Even the semi-positive get lumped into the "extreme" category. The extreme negative posts are quite evident on a daily basis - as is the absence of many used-to-be regular posters who have found other ways to have intelligent discourse.
- Flyskippy

Time to start the "dump bob in the minors get rask or snider movment'!!!!

Time to start the "dump bob in the minors get rask or snider movment'!!!!
- flyers4487

YEA EVERYONE GET YOUR PITCHFORKS RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE

YEA EVERYONE GET YOUR PITCHFORKS RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
- 2Real

- MBFlyerfan

RALLY THE TROOPS WE GOT SOMETHING TO FIGHT FOR

Nice. The end was cool, but wasn't happy with some of the decisions they made with one of the main characters
- funmaster18

I haven't (and wont) read the books, so I have no dog in that fight.