Corsi Number

"Corsi number is the number of shots directed towards the net while the player is on the ice. The number can be broken down into whose net the shots are directed towards (their own net (-) and their opponent's net (+)) similar to the plus minus statistic. The hope of course is that the Corsi plus minus would correlate well with the regular plus minus, but because the numbers will be 16x larger than plus minus numbers they'll be about 4x more accurate than the plus minus numbers."
- AlexF

So basically useless...

If people want to keep advanced stats, how about establishing some categories that differentiate between high percentage and low percentage shots on goal? 1st assists and 2nd assists? Analysis of PIM (timing and necessity) - Do you take good penalties that prevent scoring chances or do you take lazy hooking penalties in the offensive zone... (I'm looking at you Hank & Dank)...

There are much more effective ways stat guys & scouts could separate the bad from the good from the great in this league.

So basically useless...

If people want to keep advanced stats, how about establishing some categories that differentiate between high percentage and low percentage shots on goal? 1st assists and 2nd assists? Analysis of PIM (timing and necessity) - Do you take good penalties that prevent scoring chances or do you take lazy hooking penalties in the offensive zone... (I'm looking at you Hank & Dank)...

There are much more effective ways stat guys & scouts could separate the bad from the good from the great in this league.
- DrChristianTroy

How about like....just watch him play?

How about like....just watch him play?
- LeftCoaster

Only problem with that is some people are @#$%ing blind.

How about like....just watch him play?
- LeftCoaster

Have you not watched Moneyball!

Spreadsheets win Championships.

That and Jonah Hill.

Only problem with that is some people are @#$%ing blind.
- DrChristianTroy

You mean like bloggers who think Andrew Alberts is the Canuck's version of Ben Eager?

It's not just last night but a number of SO nights where Coho has been omitted. And I'm not sure what Corsi has to do with one-on-one penalty shot ability.
- AlexF

You people take things too literally.

I wasn't able to watch the Flames game, but I just noticed that Bitz still has 5 hits on the season... Only 5 hits in 4 games

Pretty sure he already had 5 hits through 3 games... Did he not throw a single hit on Saturday night?

I wasn't able to watch the Flames game, but I just noticed that Bitz still has 5 hits on the season... Only 5 hits in 4 games

Pretty sure he already had 5 hits through 3 games... Did he not throw a single hit on Saturday night?
- DrChristianTroy

Hit counting is very suspect.

A player can have a physical game and still only get credited with a hit or two.

Home team bias comes into effect as well

Hit counting is very suspect.

A player can have a physical game and still only get credited with a hit or two.

Home team bias comes into effect as well
- Mattjd123

Home team bias didn't seem to hurt Duco's hit stats.

I wasn't able to watch the Flames game, but I just noticed that Bitz still has 5 hits on the season... Only 5 hits in 4 games

Pretty sure he already had 5 hits through 3 games... Did he not throw a single hit on Saturday night?
- DrChristianTroy

No memorable hits, but he was physical behind the goal line. Also, the fact that the Sedins had the puck all night may have something to do with it.

No memorable hits, but he was physical behind the goal line. Also, the fact that the Sedins had the puck all night may have something to do with it.
- hertzman

Ugh... He's still playing with the Sedins?

Corsi is gay, can we never mention it again please?
Case in point, Raymond. Last time i check this is hockey, not a borefest such as baseball.
- Whiskey-Tango

... not that there's anything wrong with that...

I support Corsi's right to marry.

Corsi is gay, can we never mention it again please?
Case in point, Raymond. Last time i check this is hockey, not a borefest such as baseball.
- Whiskey-Tango

Usually people who can't play the game make that type of comment. Did you happen to watch the World Series last year, especially game 6? One of the most exciting games ever played that I have watched in any sport.


I get the fact that hockey has a lot more action and at a faster pace but I'm not a fan of sitting indoors to watch sports so, for me, I would rather be at a park watching baseball live, in the summer sun, drinking a beer, looking at hot girls wearing as little as possible between innings than in a cold arena. I love hockey so all I'm saying both sports have their good and bad points. Personally, I enjoy watching baseball as it relaxes me and hardly think it is boring but I have played it all my life and was pretty good at it.

Ugh... He's still playing with the Sedins?
- DrChristianTroy

Burr went back halfway through the game.

... not that there's anything wrong with that...

I support Corsi's right to marry.
- DrChristianTroy

Same.

You people take things too literally.
- hertzman

Sorry Hertz. Sometimes it's tough to get sarcasm through text.

If anyone has an Xbox, NHL12 and a Gold Membership, I have an NHL12 league going right now that at the moment has 4 spot still left open. The Teams left are the Dallas Stars, New York Islanders, Ottawa Senators and Minnesota Wild. Not the most attractive teams but I'm just trying to fill the whole league up. So far, so good. Someone joined my league as the Winnipeg Jets and has yet to play. I may boot him and give someone else the opportunity because everyone else within the last week has at least played one game.

Usually people who can't play the game make that type of comment. Did you happen to watch the World Series last year, especially game 6? One of the most exciting games ever played that I have watched in any sport.


I get the fact that hockey has a lot more action and at a faster pace but I'm not a fan of sitting indoors to watch sports so, for me, I would rather be at a park watching baseball live, in the summer sun, drinking a beer, looking at hot girls wearing as little as possible between innings than in a cold arena. I love hockey so all I'm saying both sports have their good and bad points. Personally, I enjoy watching baseball as it relaxes me and hardly think it is boring but I have played it all my life and was pretty good at it.
- CanUSA17

That game was only exciting because it was a playoff game.

That game was only exciting because it was a playoff game.
- docmorgan

And your point is? Usually the most exciting games to watch in any sport are playoff games. I hate to tell you but hockey has quite a bit of non-exciting games played during the regular season as well.

And your point is? Usually the most exciting games to watch in any sport are playoff games. I hate to tell you but hockey has quite a bit of non-exciting games played during the regular season as well.
- CanUSA17

I'm a huge baseball fan. Most of my friends don't watch until the playoffs. I can watch every Jays game... we understand the game, most people have no clue what's going on.

Whats this Corsi everyones been refering to. I have no idea what that means....
- vancity787

Corsi is a touchy subject around here. It's an advance stat that most hockey managers, including Mike Gillis, primarily now use to evaluate players and teams. Advanced stats began to be compiled publicly over the last 4 years. The teams that led the league in corsi percentages the last 4 years all went to the cup finals.

It's a touchy subject around here because advanced stats expose the average fan for what he really is when he attempts to evaluate a player. An average fan.

That's hard to for average fan to take, so advanced stats are made fun of so as to save face and convince yourself you know more about hockey than you actually do.

I'm a huge baseball fan. Most of my friends don't watch until the playoffs. I can watch every Jays game... we understand the game, most people have no clue what's going on.
- Scooby_Doo

Scooby I tend to agree with you more and more with each comment you make. I'm a Braves fan myself and pay for MLB Extra Innings every year to watch the games. Most fans who call baseball boring have never played or couldn't play. Look at soccer and how popular it is everywhere besides the US and Canada...now that is a boring sport. Hardly any scoring, games could end in a tie at 0-0, guys get kicked by a 120 lb. guy soaking wet and they act like their leg was ripped off, talk about diving.

Usually people who can't play the game make that type of comment. Did you happen to watch the World Series last year, especially game 6? One of the most exciting games ever played that I have watched in any sport.


I get the fact that hockey has a lot more action and at a faster pace but I'm not a fan of sitting indoors to watch sports so, for me, I would rather be at a park watching baseball live, in the summer sun, drinking a beer, looking at hot girls wearing as little as possible between innings than in a cold arena. I love hockey so all I'm saying both sports have their good and bad points. Personally, I enjoy watching baseball as it relaxes me and hardly think it is boring but I have played it all my life and was pretty good at it.
- CanUSA17

Actually I love playing ball, did so competatively all my life. However many sports are Awsome to play but horrid to watch, such as golf, curling, badminton and billiards.

Corsi is a touchy subject around here. It's an advance stat that most hockey managers, including Mike Gillis, primarily now use to evaluate players and teams. Advanced stats began to be compiled publicly over the last 4 years. The teams that led the league in corsi percentages the last 4 years all went to the cup finals.

It's a touchy subject around here because advanced stats expose the average fan for what he really is when he attempts to evaluate a player. An average fan.

That's hard to for average fan to take, so advanced stats are made fun of so as to save face and convince yourself you know more about hockey than you actually do.
- K-Bomb

So us fans who watch and see just how useless Raymond is are just "average". While you say Raymond is playing well just because he throws pucks at the net from the side boards. Interesting.

I'm a huge baseball fan. Most of my friends don't watch until the playoffs. I can watch every Jays game... we understand the game, most people have no clue what's going on.
- Scooby_Doo

I'm a huge Jays fan too. They were a Prince Feilder away from being a scary team this year. Now teams will just keep pitching around Bautista.