I think his Cap hit is prohibitive for the Flyers. And I could see Columbus wanting JVR, and one of Schenn or Couturier for him. So I personally wouldn't do it. My argument is with those that say he's not a top Winger. He certainly is.
- MJL

Define top winger for me because I disagree.

Define top winger for me because I disagree.
- flyers20032002

He is one of the top goal scoring wingers, not one of the top wingers. His point totals show that.

Define top winger for me because I disagree.
- flyers20032002

It's obvious that he is. The guy has put up big numbers playing with nobody. Put him with Giroux, and he's 40+ in the bank. He's big and strong, skates well, shoots the puck well. He's an top talent.

He is one of the top goal scoring wingers, not one of the top wingers. His point totals show that.
- Flyers2821

You have to look at his situation in the context of defining him as a player.

He is one of the top goal scoring wingers, not one of the top wingers. His point totals show that.
- Flyers2821

I agree with that...MJL is calling him a top winger. Nash is no Marian Gaborik nor is he a Iginla in his prime.

You have to look at his situation in the context of defining him as a player.
- MJL

I am.

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You have to look at his situation in the context of defining him as a player.
- MJL

Look at Iginla then...he's never had great players around him, look at his career numbers. Top players rise above that.

I agree with that...MJL is calling him a top winger. Nash is no Marian Gaborik nor is he a Iginla in his prime.
- flyers20032002

I mean to me, it is pretty simple. To have a cap hit of 7.8 million on my team (if I was pulling the strings) you better be a consistent 90-100 points a season guy, not a 40 goal scorer guy.

I agree with that...MJL is calling him a top winger. Nash is no Marian Gaborik nor is he a Iginla in his prime.
- flyers20032002

so your saying if Nash was playing with Giroux he wouldnt score 35 goals?? Gaborik has been inconsistent yea hes having a good year but how many did he have last year

Look at Iginla then...he's never had great players around him, look at his career numbers. Top players rise above that.
- flyers20032002

Nash hasn't risen above that?

I agree with that...MJL is calling him a top winger. Nash is no Marian Gaborik nor is he a Iginla in his prime.
- flyers20032002

LOL, your right, he's better then Gaborik.

It's obvious that he is. The guy has put up big numbers playing with nobody. Put him with Giroux, and he's 40+ in the bank. He's big and strong, skates well, shoots the puck well. He's an top talent.
- MJL

Nash is a stud, no doubt, since he plays in Columbus with nobody he doesn't get his just due. The cap hit is salty, but in two years when Roo has to be resigned, Kimmo and Hartnell will be off the books. A good chance Jagr won't be playing with the Flyers in two years.

The Flyers will probably get a d-man at the trade deadline, but he'll be a short term solution. If Homer can pull off a trade without including Coots and Schenn (not likely), I do have interest in Nash.

LOL, your right, he's much better then Gaborik.
- MJL

a clear notch above

Nash is a stud, no doubt, since he plays in Columbus with nobody he doesn't get his just due. The cap hit is salty, but in two years when Roo has to be resigned, Kimmo and Hartnell will be off the books. A good chance Jagr won't be playing with the Flyers in two years.

The Flyers will probably get a d-man at the trade deadline, but he'll be a short term solution. If Homer can pull off a trade without including Coots and Schenn (not likely), I do have interest in Nash.
- ravishingone

So in a few years your sitting with Nash and Giroux taking up 16 million or more in cap space when G signs his deal.

So in a few years your sitting with Nash and Giroux taking up 16 million or more in cap space.
- Flyers2821

Nobody is arguing the Cap issues. Taking on his Cap hit and how good of a player he is, is two different conversations.

So in a few years your sitting with Nash and Giroux taking up 16 million or more in cap space.
- Flyers2821

nothing wrong with that.. not saying i would do it but redwings have there top 2 taking up 13...plus the cap will continue to go up per say and with the new cba who knows whats gonna happen

I have zero interest in taking on the cap hit, but Nash is an outstanding plyr...a pwr forward if there ever was one.

nothing wrong with that.. not saying i would do it but redwings have there top 2 taking up 13...plus the cap will continue to go up per say and with the new cba who knows whats gonna happen
- Slammed81

The Cap going up is very much in doubt.

nothing wrong with that.. not saying i would do it but redwings have there top 2 taking up 13...plus the cap will continue to go up per say and with the new cba who knows whats gonna happen
- Slammed81

13 mill and 16 mill is a big difference when you are talking about 2 players.

The Cap going up is very much in doubt.
- MJL

not what i read either way it isnt alot

so your saying if Nash was playing with Giroux he wouldnt score 35 goals?? Gaborik has been inconsistent yea hes having a good year but how many did he have last year
- Slammed81

sigh, everyone knows Nash can score, we're not disputing that...he has scored 30+ goals several times in his career. To classify him as a top player I would say the following has to be looked at:

1.) Points Per Game needs to be ~1+
2.) Takes care of the puck/plays well defensively
3.) Can carry a team
4.) Scores Big Goals

I don't think Nash fits that bill. The only thing that makes him look like a top player is his salary. He takes shifts off, is lazy in his own end, and is overpaid.

13 mill and 16 mill is a big difference when you are talking about 2 players.
- Flyers2821

yea if there both putting 80 pts its not much of a difference in saying that i wouldnt make the move just sayin... Nash is capable of 80 pts with G

Am I the only one who thinks Bobby Ryan would be the absolute ideal fit with G? His cap hits nearly 3 mill less than Nash and you could overpay for him to get him out of Anaheim and you'd give up less. Not to mention, I am sure as a NJ native and a Flyers fan growing up he would be PUMPED to come to Philly.

Maybe I am crazy, but he seems like the absolute ideal fit to get G a legit goal scorer for the future.

yea if there both putting 80 pts its not much of a difference in saying that i wouldnt make the move just sayin... Nash is capable of 80 pts with G
- Slammed81

For 16 million they better be combining for 180-200 points a year. Not 160