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hawksbuzz
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 01.29.2012

Feb 14 @ 6:23 PM ET
Nice. I like the sound of this......Everyday I wait for something to happen. Even if it's a rumor...at least there's a name involved. The team needs some shaking up.
- _diatribe_


There are too many holes on this team, it is not a contender. Enjoy the remainder of this season, they will pull out of this. Bowman will make a few minor deals that may help. I'm off to get ready to watch my Hawks lay it on the line tonight and get a big win. GO HAWKS!!
coldsteelonice
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.03.2011

Feb 14 @ 6:25 PM ET
There are too many holes on this team, it is not a contender. Enjoy the remainder of this season, they will pull out of this. Bowman will make a few minor deals that may help. I'm off to get ready to watch my Hawks lay it on the line tonight and get a big win. GO HAWKS!!
- hawksbuzz


What if they got Nash for Hammer, Stalberg, top prospect, #1 pick.

Then traded Sharp for Jack Johnson plus some more grit from LA? Or another separate trade involving Sharp.

Pure speculation, but the possibilities are so interesting!!!
hockey nut 28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Kansas City
Joined: 11.01.2006

Feb 14 @ 6:27 PM ET
Wow....do we have 7.8 million reasons until 2017-18 to do this deal?

hawksbuzz
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 01.29.2012

Feb 14 @ 6:30 PM ET
Wow....do we have 7.8 million reasons until 2017-18 to do this deal?
- hockey nut 28


If it was Malkin, yes!
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Feb 14 @ 6:35 PM ET
Why would Bowman create more holes in his lineup to trade for a player who fills no holes. If you are going to make drastic changes to the lineup it is better done on or before the draft, when more teams are involved.
- hawksbuzz


Apparently the Hawks (along with many hockey people) think Nash is a superstar. He immediately makes the Hawks tougher to defend below the circles,onthe power play and in playoff hockey situations.

If you think he's overrated or a slug, I can tell you, I've seen him play a lot more than most and that is not the case.

You have to give to get. And I would bet therefore, Bowman has other plans in the works if he gets lucky here, as I don't think he is the frontrunner. Still, I believe the Hawks are making (or made) a serious and considerable offer.
NewToHockey
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.23.2010

Feb 14 @ 6:37 PM ET
If it was Malkin, yes!
- hawksbuzz

I doubt Pitt would trade Malkin for any player in the league except maybe Toews.
NewToHockey
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.23.2010

Feb 14 @ 6:39 PM ET
Apparently the Hawks (along with many hockey people) think Nash is a superstar. He immediately makes the Hawks tougher to defend below the circles,onthe power play and in playoff hockey situations.

If you think he's overrated or a slug, I can tell you, I've seen him play a lot more than most and that is not the case.

You have to give to get. And I would bet therefore, Bowman has other plans in the works if he gets lucky here, as I don't think he is the frontrunner. Still, I believe the Hawks are making (or made) a serious and considerable offer.

- John Jaeckel

I take a day off from HB for my blood pressure's sake and come back to this?

I really hope at least the rumors are true. Even if the Hawks don't make a deal for Nash, it shows that Stan has more guts than I imagined he did.
hockey nut 28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Kansas City
Joined: 11.01.2006

Feb 14 @ 6:43 PM ET
Apparently the Hawks (along with many hockey people) think Nash is a superstar. He immediately makes the Hawks tougher to defend below the circles,onthe power play and in playoff hockey situations.

If you think he's overrated or a slug, I can tell you, I've seen him play a lot more than most and that is not the case.

You have to give to get. And I would bet therefore, Bowman has other plans in the works if he gets lucky here, as I don't think he is the frontrunner. Still, I believe the Hawks are making (or made) a serious and considerable offer.

- John Jaeckel


Would say that the Hawks would be a better team with Nash (7.8), minus whoever goes the other way, than we were with Campbell (7.1)?
hawksbuzz
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 01.29.2012

Feb 14 @ 6:45 PM ET
Apparently the Hawks (along with many hockey people) think Nash is a superstar. He immediately makes the Hawks tougher to defend below the circles,onthe power play and in playoff hockey situations.

If you think he's overrated or a slug, I can tell you, I've seen him play a lot more than most and that is not the case.

You have to give to get. And I would bet therefore, Bowman has other plans in the works if he gets lucky here, as I don't think he is the frontrunner. Still, I believe the Hawks are making (or made) a serious and considerable offer.

- John Jaeckel


Correct me if I'm wrong but did you not say that the Hawks Management told Bowman under no circumstances was he to add any more long term contracts, only expiring ones! Nash would be a nice addition, but so would a second line center, a 3-4 dman and a goaltender. These are huge holes, does Nash fill them? Adding another top end contract can only further weaken the depth.
hawksbuzz
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 01.29.2012

Feb 14 @ 6:48 PM ET
I doubt Pitt would trade Malkin for any player in the league except maybe Toews.
- NewToHockey


I know, the point I was trying to make was that at least Malkin would fill a hole. If Nash was a first line center he wouldn't be on the trade block!
yobwoc03
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Commit To The Indian, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Feb 14 @ 6:49 PM ET
Correct me if I'm wrong but did you not say that the Hawks Management told Bowman under no circumstances was he to add any more long term contracts, only expiring ones! Nash would be a nice addition, but so would a second line center, a 3-4 dman and a goaltender. These are huge holes, does Nash fill them? Adding another top end contract can only further weaken the depth.
- hawksbuzz




Maybe after yesterday's organizational meetings things changed.
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Feb 14 @ 6:54 PM ET
Why would Bowman create more holes in his lineup to trade for a player who fills no holes. If you are going to make drastic changes to the lineup it is better done on or before the draft, when more teams are involved.
- hawksbuzz

Fills no holes? Serious? Really?!

Power LW'er? On a line with 19/81? Really now?!

In a vacuum, this will not be done. There are other deals to be made. I am skeptical of how they'd manage a slightly heavier top-scale salary structure but for a guy like that, it'd have to be considered.
hawksbuzz
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 01.29.2012

Feb 14 @ 7:00 PM ET
Maybe after yesterday's organizational meetings things changed.
- yobwoc03


If there was such a meeting it would only have been to reaffirm they are staying the coarse. Q's endorsement would leave me to believe so.
SnapitUpstairs
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: CHICAGO, IL
Joined: 02.03.2012

Feb 14 @ 7:00 PM ET
Only if I was 98% certain I could acquire 1-2 other players in a separate deal. And then, yes, I would. Could be a great deal for both teams.
- John Jaeckel


>That's good news
>$$$ aside, I'm guessing that the braintrust has decided that this core and team is just too comfortable with itself
>I would love to see a speeding steamroller with soft hands wearing the Indianhead
>Hungry players win -- whether that hunger is for a first-time championship or for another -- it's the hungry player that wins
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Feb 14 @ 7:04 PM ET
Are any of the suspects sitting out tonite (don't know if CBJ is playing or not)?
hawksbuzz
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 01.29.2012

Feb 14 @ 7:06 PM ET
Fills no holes? Serious? Really?!

Power LW'er? On a line with 19/81? Really now?!

In a vacuum, this will not be done. There are other deals to be made. I am skeptical of how they'd manage a slightly heavier top-scale salary structure but for a guy like that, it'd have to be considered.

- blackhawk24


Thats a nice line, although Sharp would do the trick. Now with what you gave up what is left? A Black Hole!!!! 20 mill on one line, one third your payroll?
TrueGrit
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: FL
Joined: 07.19.2011

Feb 14 @ 7:06 PM ET
As a division rival, along with Detroit, the Hawks will have to pay a larger premium than others to acquire Nash. It has been a fun exercise, but in the end CLB will use offer to extort more from others.

I do not doubt the offer is real, or that the Hawks are very interested, just think probability is small for Hawks.

Not to pee on anyones parade.
RetiredGoalie
Joined: 03.01.2010

Feb 14 @ 7:08 PM ET
I'll give you this. If what I hear the Hawks offered is true, then Columbus would get two guys who give them elements they don't currently really have. They'd get another guy who could be a superstar in 3-4 years (or at least a decent NHL player), and they'd get another guy who is boom or bust (but more likely bust).

Basically, the hawks have offered at least three guys who are good to very good NHL players now or in the future. And there could be picks involved.

The Hawks could afford it under the cap and yet Columbus would free up some cap space.

I will also reiterate, this offer tells me the Hawks would not be done. Because the deal would create or make worse a hole on the Hawks.

- John Jaeckel


Leddy or Hjalmarrson and Stalberg (elements they don't have) Kruger (possible superstar) Beach (boom or bust)?
djd
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Osoyoos, BC
Joined: 02.11.2008

Feb 14 @ 7:09 PM ET
Are any of the suspects sitting out tonite (don't know if CBJ is playing or not)?
- StLBravesFan


Nash on the ice as I type this.
Glenman12
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake County, IL
Joined: 01.13.2010

Feb 14 @ 7:09 PM ET
Are any of the suspects sitting out tonite (don't know if CBJ is playing or not)?
- StLBravesFan


theyre playing the Blues and according to Yahoo Nash is in the lineup..
TrueGrit
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: FL
Joined: 07.19.2011

Feb 14 @ 7:09 PM ET
I am just hoping that Keith can score as many goals as Aaron Johnson this year.
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Feb 14 @ 7:11 PM ET
Apparently the Hawks (along with many hockey people) think Nash is a superstar. He immediately makes the Hawks tougher to defend below the circles,onthe power play and in playoff hockey situations.

If you think he's overrated or a slug, I can tell you, I've seen him play a lot more than most and that is not the case.

You have to give to get. And I would bet therefore, Bowman has other plans in the works if he gets lucky here, as I don't think he is the frontrunner. Still, I believe the Hawks are making (or made) a serious and considerable offer.

- John Jaeckel


He is an ultimate power forward if he uses his size...Can stickhandle in a phone booth and has soft hands.

Can't find that package with his size...In his prime years at 27...
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Feb 14 @ 7:13 PM ET
Leaking Nash news out now is suspicious if they really wanted to deal Carter.

Now Carter will be an after thought and they could be wearing him...

Nash trade talk should have been saved for the Draft.
nathanjf
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Quebec, QC
Joined: 11.25.2010

Feb 14 @ 7:15 PM ET
I'll give you this. If what I hear the Hawks offered is true, then Columbus would get two guys who give them elements they don't currently really have. They'd get another guy who could be a superstar in 3-4 years (or at least a decent NHL player), and they'd get another guy who is boom or bust (but more likely bust).

Basically, the hawks have offered at least three guys who are good to very good NHL players now or in the future. And there could be picks involved.

The Hawks could afford it under the cap and yet Columbus would free up some cap space.

I will also reiterate, this offer tells me the Hawks would not be done. Because the deal would create or make worse a hole on the Hawks.

- John Jaeckel



Bolland, Leddy, Saad, Beach?

NewToHockey
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.23.2010

Feb 14 @ 7:22 PM ET
Leaking Nash news out now is suspicious if they really wanted to deal Carter.

Now Carter will be an after thought and they could be wearing him...

Nash trade talk should have been saved for the Draft.

- Al

Given how the year has gone in Columbus, could this be their GM taking a final swing at saving his job?
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