Thats a nice line, although Sharp would do the trick. Now with what you gave up what is left? A Black Hole!!!! 20 mill on one line, one third your payroll?
- hawksbuzz

Didn't see the rest of what I wrote?

There are other deals to be made.

[quote=Al]Leaking Nash news out now is suspicious if they really wanted to deal Carter.

Now Carter will be an after thought and they could be wearing him...

1. Professional courtesy. Think Nash been a consummate pro and team guy. It is clear this team needs a restart and probably long ago discussions and parameters were set, where the team would agree to move Nash. He has been a good soldier and instead of waiting for summer, and since it is a forgone conclusion he will be moved, why not bait the hook.

2. Carter will be moved as well, maybe before Nash. If they can target a number 1 goalie (Bernier) 3 or 4 NHL ready guys and 2 or 3 prospects or drafts, would go a long way in rebuilding and restarting. IMHO.

Given how the year has gone in Columbus, could this be their GM taking a final swing at saving his job?
- NewToHockey

Most think he should have been gone aleady...Wouldn't be my choice to make a trade involving the best player on the team.

Most think he should have been gone aleady...Wouldn't be my choice to make a trade involving the best player on the team.
- Al

Exactly, wouldn't you think at this point many of these calls are over his head. And he is not working on his own?

[quote=Al]Leaking Nash news out now is suspicious if they really wanted to deal Carter.

Now Carter will be an after thought and they could be wearing him...

1. Professional courtesy. Think Nash been a consummate pro and team guy. It is clear this team needs a restart and probably long ago discussions and parameters were set, where the team would agree to move Nash. He has been a good soldier and instead of waiting for summer, and since it is a forgone conclusion he will be moved, why not bait the hook.

2. Carter will be moved as well, maybe before Nash. If they can target a number 1 goalie (Bernier) 3 or 4 NHL ready guys and 2 or 3 prospects or drafts, would go a long way in rebuilding and restarting. IMHO.
- TrueGrit

Don't misunderstand if I'm Nash and the talk is to trade Carter I'm thinking why not me first? Why would Nash want to stick around with the same MGT crew that has screwed up in many ways and hope for help to come this summer??

That said from a business stndpoint there are far few teams able to make a play for Nash now than at the Draft....And if he is dealt that takes a team out of the running for Carter....Cuz there aren't many teams able to make a deal for $5 mill or $7.8 mill players now.

Exactly, wouldn't you think at this point many of these calls are over his head. And he is not working on his own?
- TrueGrit

Maybe still doesn't make sense to not wait for the summer.

The Draft is the better time for blockbuster deals not now...

Maybe still doesn't make sense to not wait for the summer.

The Draft is the better time for blockbuster deals not now...
- Al

Do not disagree, but if you are able to acquire what you are looking for and it is a forgone conclusion you are rebuilding...then lets get it done now.

Plus, perhaps collective bargaining progress/status may be less favorable later, thus potentially slowing the process further.

I am sure you are right in your assessment, I am just of the mind that if you have made a decision, then start down that road.

Maybe still doesn't make sense to not wait for the summer.

The Draft is the better time for blockbuster deals not now...
- Al

Why is that?

Why is that?
- hockey nut 28

Seasons are over. Personnel decisions have been made. You can get the full attention of all teams. You figure teams will have fired all coaches and rehired replacements, along with GMS...just more potential dance partners.

Seasons are over. Personnel decisions have been made. You can get the full attention of all teams. You figure teams will have fired all coaches and rehired replacements, along with GMS...just more potential dance partners.
- TrueGrit

Wouldn't the dance partners be limited to where Nash is willing to go? I don't see where that would really change between now and the summer.

Do not disagree, but if you are able to acquire what you are looking for and it is a forgone conclusion you are rebuilding...then lets get it done now.

Plus, perhaps collective bargaining progress/status may be less favorable later, thus potentially slowing the process further.

I am sure you are right in your assessment, I am just of the mind that if you have made a decision, then start down that road.
- TrueGrit

I think anything out of the CBA enhances the attractive nature of mega contracts but who knows....ie ability to later get out of them.

Nothing much that happens now a days surprises me...Especially with a franchise that has made so many mistakes in the past.

hey guys i guess theres a radio station here in pitt saying we r in talks with you guys... something along the lines of lovejoy or nisk for either saad or kruger... any thoughts??

I would love to get Saad in a pens jersey... lovejoy is a 5-6 dman where nisk is a 3-4dman.. nisk isnt that bad on the pp where lovejoy can play pk...

Wouldn't the dance partners be limited to where Nash is willing to go? I don't see where that would really change between now and the summer.
- NewToHockey

Actually that list will grow too due to the off season acquisitions/free agents that other competitive teams can/will do to make space or enhance the attractiveness of the team. Keep in mind, you have to find a match, that is a team willing to give back the assets that CLB will demand.

hey guys i guess theres a radio station here in pitt saying we r in talks with you guys... something along the lines of lovejoy or nisk for either saad or kruger... any thoughts??

I would love to get Saad in a pens jersey... lovejoy is a 5-6 dman where nisk is a 3-4dman.. nisk isnt that bad on the pp where lovejoy can play pk...
- nh4442

Kruger going nowhere....

I doubt Pitt would trade Malkin for any player in the league except maybe Toews.
- NewToHockey

Are you kidding....how that team competes w/o Crosby...Malkin is man's man!

Hawks with out Toews are an after thought sub 500 team....they have nobody to fill such a void.

Kane?? Forget about it!

Like Leddy playing with Seabrook

Kruger going nowhere....
- TrueGrit

so what do you think of one of those deals? nisk or lovejoy for saad??

I like that penalty by Toews. Wish we would do that more often.

so what do you think of one of those deals? nisk or lovejoy for saad??
- nh4442

Yes,would be nice to make a deal for dman...not sure what it will take...

I like that penalty by Toews. Wish we would do that more often.
- Walky

Yes, going hard to the net but don't see how they can call a penalty on Toews when it certainly appears he's being ridden into Rinne.

Keith playing with a little edge..like it..hitting some guys...

Hossa seems to be back to his normal self so far tonight.

Bad turnover by Toews but very well played by Nashville afterwards.

sweet. thank god.

Bad turnover by Toews but very well played by Nashville afterwards.
- Walky

Huge goal there..they didnt hang their heads and went and got that one back!!