why?
- wingz4life

More serious organization when it comes to winning.

Hawks will not turn it around tonight or anytime during this road trip. They will need a spark - a big trade, a callup, a fresh goalie, a coaching change.

The spark will come - if it does they will have an excellent March and at least solidify their mid-level seeding.

I don't get why we're in on Nash. We need a bonifide stud d-man that hits. And then we need a goalie change because you can see the morale and confidence escape whenever cc lets in a bad one because he's somehow ten feet away from the side of the crease they score on.
- busmaster

Nearest I can tell...either a stud d-man just straight up isn't available for trade at this time, or simply costs the Hawks too much in trade.

Bolland will not get you Nash.
- deadpoulet

Ya think?

why?
- wingz4life

Haven't you learned by now? the overall disposition here is pessimism. Heck JJ'll prolly lose half his readership after this road trip as they find sharp objects, ledges, and ropes to dangle off of...

Sharp
McNeill or Saad (not both)
Clendening
#1 pick in 2012

(guess)
- John Jaeckel

I'd like to see Dorsett in the deal too.

Who do you think the Wings would give up for Nash?
- jhawk159

nothing.wings wont do it in a post cap world
pre-cap world yes

Sharp
McNeill or Saad (not both)
Clendening
#1 pick in 2012

(guess)
- John Jaeckel

Hearing all this talk about chemistry I rather offer up Hossa than Sharp. Sharp is a very likable guy in the locker room and why mess with the chemistry? Hossa and Nash have long-term contracts and Hossa's is a little more cap friendly than Sharp in the short term but not long-term. Also Hossa is 33 and has played a lot of hockey.

Why are all these foreigners here?

Blackhawks board for Blackhawkians, I say....

True...playing in Columbus must be like playing in Siberia. Hawks should still be targeting defensive assets first and foremost.
- philco28

I think a big part of our defensive problem is forwards that aren't physical, don't forecheck and give up the puck too easily. I would take a power forward over a D with how we are set up. I think it's a bigger need. I guess alot depends on Hammer/Monty injury front as well however..

True...playing in Columbus must be like playing in Siberia. Hawks should still be targeting defensive assets first and foremost.
- philco28

I agree about acquiring a d-man, but how many decent to good ones are available, and at what cost? Kubina would be nice, but how much would you give up for a rental? Might have to wait until the summer.

Sharp at $3.9M is GREAT value; Sharp at 30, for FIVE years at $5.9M??? Not so much (unless he was a better two-way player, and played center...).

nothing.wings wont do it in a post cap world
pre-cap world yes
- wingz4life

exactly..

toronto or vancouver might be the two teams with the most assets to put together, and the desire to do so. both willing to sacrifice high end picks, have some top end young talent they could afford to part with, and some decent young to middle aged role players, to help the jackets in the now. both have some demanding markets to.

JJ, I know you said that trade does nor surround Kane... but, could this trade lead to more trades... Tampa Bay that was mentioned earlier (could they want Kane?)...

I know that everyone mentions Kane's NMC; however, capgeek has an asterix next to the NMC - and it says "only eligible in 2014-2015 - TBA"...

It can mean 2 things: he cannot be traded until 2014-2015? Or, NMC id only eligible in 2014-2015? If it is the latter, then Kane could be a fair game in trade talks.

nothing.wings wont do it in a post cap world
pre-cap world yes
- wingz4life

Yep, can't see Holland being ok with Nash being the highest paid Wing. Would screw up the model that seems to be working for them pretty well.

Now that I think about it does Sharp fit into these parameters?


DarrenDreger: To consider trading Nash, CBJ will insist on young roster players as prominent pieces of a deal. Location determined by Nash.

Hearing all this talk about chemistry I rather offer up Hossa than Sharp. Sharp is a very likable guy in the locker room and why mess with the chemistry? Hossa and Nash have long-term contracts and Hossa's is a little more cap friendly than Sharp in the short term but not long-term. Also Hossa is 33 and has played a lot of hockey.
- roenick

How's that locker room chemistry doing for the team right now. I agree Sharp is a good locker room guy, but that is secondary. If you can improve the team, then Sharp's locker room presence doesn't even factor into the equation.

I think a big part of our defensive problem is forwards that aren't physical, don't forecheck and give up the puck too easily. I would take a power forward over a D with how we are set up. I think it's a bigger need. I guess alot depends on Hammer/Monty injury front as well however..
- ilinkhawk

Agree about our forwards. The '92 Hawks Cup team hit EVERYTHING THAT MOVED on the forecheck. This crew, for the most part, are content to do fly bys and avoid contact. Shaw, Jammer and Bickell (once every 15 games) will hit someone on the forecheck, but that's it. Boston would KILL US.

Sharp
McNeill or Saad (not both)
Clendening
#1 pick in 2012

(guess)
- John Jaeckel

You really think they want a 30 year old that is going to make 6 mil per for 5 more years? I don't think that solves much at all for them with their cap situation. I would rather keep Nash if I were them. I would want a promising young player or two that isn't a huge salary weight along with the two prospects you mention and the pick. The two that come to mind on our team are Stalberg and/or Leddy.

Now that I think about it does Sharp fit into these parameters?


DarrenDreger: To consider trading Nash, CBJ will insist on young roster players as prominent pieces of a deal. Location determined by Nash.
- Lahey

He doesn't.

exactly..

toronto or vancouver might be the two teams with the most assets to put together, and the desire to do so. both willing to sacrifice high end picks, have some top end young talent they could afford to part with, and some decent young to middle aged role players, to help the jackets in the now. both have some demanding markets to.
- joel878

If it's going to take something like Schneider and Hodgson I'd pass. Also moving forward, we'd have Henrik, Daniel, Nash, Luongo, Kesler taking up 30 mil in cap space.

Agree about our forwards. The '92 Hawks Cup team hit EVERYTHING THAT MOVED on the forecheck. This crew, for the most part, are content to do fly bys and avoid contact. Shaw, Jammer and Bickell (once every 15 games) will hit someone on the forecheck, but that's it. Boston would KILL US.
- philco28

When you have some guys (forwards) out there that play nasty, hit, and aren't afraid to agitate.... The other team plays a whole lot more tentative. Now... other teams have free space. We had guys like that on every line a few years back. Need it now.. And need it even more for playoff hockey.

"I'm not sure a new attitude is going to automatically raise Dylan Olsen's awareness level or give him the extra step of foot speed he currently lacks. I'm not sure it's going to turn a number of 180 pound rushers into the missing 220 pound crushers. Or that it's going to help a couple of shell-shocked goalies hold their crease. In fact, I have my doubts."

So do I...but good for a couple of wins...sure!

Now that I think about it does Sharp fit into these parameters?


DarrenDreger: To consider trading Nash, CBJ will insist on young roster players as prominent pieces of a deal. Location determined by Nash.
- Lahey

Leddy/Stalberg for us...

I agree about acquiring a d-man, but how many decent to good ones are available, and at what cost? Kubina would be nice, but how much would you give up for a rental? Might have to wait until the summer.

Sharp at $3.9M is GREAT value; Sharp at 30, for FIVE years at $5.9M??? Not so much (unless he was a better two-way player, and played center...).
- hawks2010

The d-man market is slim pickins i grant you and i hate to speculate about potential deals because a) i'm too lazy and

b) because it doesn't matter one friggin' iota who i like...
it's all up to Stan Bum Man and right now, as one
poster wrote, he's acting like a whiny wench, who
won't p*ss or get off the pot.

I wish I knew how to prevaricate!

Exactly... trend continues: Nashville 5 - Chicago 2
- blackhawk24

Nah...not that bad...I think they lose a close one...possibly OT!