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hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Feb 16 @ 1:42 PM ET
hull

im just saying you guys always try to make jabs at the leafs, and when someone brings up history then you cant argue after that history doesnt count.....

- dmarsden2988


Wiat Wait which Hull? I guess Mark Recchi will go in as a HUrricane too
The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

Feb 16 @ 1:42 PM ET
Probably not. Maybe an elite team where the pick would fall in the high twenties.
- whipper334


Boston, New york ( ), it could happen. Or at least a good young player/prospect.
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Feb 16 @ 1:42 PM ET
Let's say the trade bait is the same... who would you rather have on your team?

Rick Nash (6 more years at $ 7.8 Million)
or
Jeff Carter (10 more years at $ 5.273 Million)
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Feb 16 @ 1:43 PM ET
The cubs technically have more world series titles than a lot of MLB teams but they were in 1913... does that make them better currently??
- MillerTime3011


MIllerTime im starting to get a man crush on you
you're the best
faceto27
Location: Burke: Best part of today is I
Joined: 01.21.2010

Feb 16 @ 1:43 PM ET
you're still missing the top 6 forward and top prospect. Mac and Kadri only fill that bill in TO not anywhere else in the NHL. That's the problem
- shmenge



Regardless......... it is not going to take that much parts to get Nash.

It will be somewhere along the lines of the Joe Thornton trade.
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: *flush*, NH
Joined: 04.27.2011

Feb 16 @ 1:43 PM ET
Wiat Wait which Hull? I guess Mark Recchi will go in as a HUrricane too
- hubie


Shouldn't Recchi go in as a Penguin?
bonzo11
New York Rangers
Joined: 05.16.2010

Feb 16 @ 1:44 PM ET
That's a hell of a gamble on the Bruins part. Other than for RNH I would hope the Bruins don't even hear offers for Rask. Cause after him the talent level in Providence falls off of a cliff.
- glove_was_stuck

indeed, makes no sense to move him thinking quick will become a UFA. Not too mention the interest he would receive if he hit the open market. no guarantee boston would get him or have the best offer
Phenom
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: TITS baby, TITS - Trust In The Shanaplan, ON
Joined: 08.12.2010

Feb 16 @ 1:44 PM ET
only to educated Buffalo fans, you aint talking to any of them
- bobbyisno1


Oh yeah, I keep forgetting there are non-educated hockey fans here too. Well, I guess every team has them.
Rockhead_37
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Bolton, ON
Joined: 09.11.2010

Feb 16 @ 1:44 PM ET
Schenn has not even come close to the hype..a career minus..no thanks..if u guys are so high on him, why are all of you trying to trade him in here all the time??
- French-Connection

because they keep listening to local media say he sucks...... he's 22, not even developed yet.... still 3 years away from "getting it"
MillerTime3011
Buffalo Sabres
Location: CO
Joined: 07.11.2011

Feb 16 @ 1:44 PM ET
Hey bro...I didn't bring up the attendance stat...just sayin.

And yes...it is true...buffalo's record against Toronto is far better which is a remarkable feat given that a game in Buffalo is pretty much a home game for the leafs...for obvious reasons.

My favorite tweet of the year: "“Is there any windowless rooms? #buffalo.” J. Lupul

Epic troll

- Asparatrout


Dany Heatley skating onto the ice next to Patrick Kaleta...

Heatley says "I'm gonna take you to school"

Kaleta says "No, I prefer to get to my locations in one piece"

BEST EPIC TROLL EVER...
A_Tree
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm r00ting for you™ - KS, ON
Joined: 05.06.2011

Feb 16 @ 1:44 PM ET
I like it for the Leafs, except for 1 thing, with Carter's big cap hit I would NEVER give up a 1st pick, that would be my only deal breaker. Take out the first pick & it gets done.
- GCHonda


It would never go down than - not to mention its a conditional 1st, which may not be delivered if the condition is not met (yet we receive the HIGH 2nd regardless).

His Cap is not as bad as people make it out to be. It's $5.6 mil/season for the next 4-5 years or something before it goes down. The movements solve any cap issues, and who knows if Burke can manage to move Armstrong, Komi, or Lombo in a separate deal to increase our cap space?
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: *flush*, NH
Joined: 04.27.2011

Feb 16 @ 1:44 PM ET
Regardless......... it is not going to take that much parts to get Nash.

It will be somewhere along the lines of the Joe Thornton trade.

- faceto27


Hopefully not for one the teams. The Thornton trade is one of the worst I have ever seen only Sturm played for Boston for any length of time.

Sturm...
MCharisma91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 07.10.2010

Feb 16 @ 1:45 PM ET
Isn't Carter more of a shooter than passer. We already have shooters.
I'd take that big body Nash instead of Carter TBH.
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Feb 16 @ 1:45 PM ET
indeed, makes no sense to move him thinking quick will become a UFA. Not too mention the interest he would receive if he hit the open market. no guarantee boston would get him or have the best offer
- bonzo11


sanchez asked holmes to be his valentine, (frank)ing should have asked a qb coach to be his valentine and (frank)ing learn how to be a qb
faceto27
Location: Burke: Best part of today is I
Joined: 01.21.2010

Feb 16 @ 1:45 PM ET
because they keep listening to local media say he sucks...... he's 22, not even developed yet.... still 3 years away from "getting it"
- Rockhead_37




he has cement skates........ no age will correct that
Asparatrout
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: oakville, ON
Joined: 07.16.2011

Feb 16 @ 1:46 PM ET
Dany Heatley skating onto the ice next to Patrick Kaleta...

Heatley says "I'm gonna take you to school"

Kaleta says "No, I prefer to get to my locations in one piece"

BEST EPIC TROLL EVER...

- MillerTime3011


Did that actually happen? If so...that is indeed the most epic troll ever lol

Absolutely hate Heatley...and I hate the Sens.
SameOld
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.25.2010

Feb 16 @ 1:46 PM ET
What the (frank)? Why would we give all that up for Nash or Carter?

Nash can't come here. 7.8 + 6.7 + 9.5 = bad.

- Blackstrom2


Don't worry, there is no chance in hell Nash would want to go to Washington.
faceto27
Location: Burke: Best part of today is I
Joined: 01.21.2010

Feb 16 @ 1:46 PM ET
It would never go down than - not to mention its a conditional 1st, which may not be delivered if the condition is not met (yet we receive the HIGH 2nd regardless).

His Cap is not as bad as people make it out to be. It's $5.6 mil/season for the next 4-5 years or something before it goes down. The movements solve any cap issues, and who knows if Burke can manage to move Armstrong, Komi, or Lombo in a separate deal to increase our cap space?

- A_Tree




Cap hits remain the same......... the salary may go down
Richieattack18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Girouxsalem
Joined: 07.13.2010

Feb 16 @ 1:47 PM ET
I make this deal. Why? Just like Sundin, Nash has consistently put up great numbers while playing with stiffs.

Not often can you get a 40+ goal guy...and the deal has minimal impact to our current roster. So now you have kessel and Nash both potential 50 goal guys...Grabo and Lupul who are potentially 30 goal guys.

Lots of goals masks our goalie and defense miscues.

It would however mean Grabo is gonezo...

- Asparatrout

So you trade away your young guys and a 30 goal scorer for a potentially 40 goal scorer in Nash? You guys would be screwed. Nash might not even hit 30 goals this year, he is over rated. And his cap hit is 7.8 mil. I would salivate over some of the guys some leaf fans are willing to give up to get Nash. You are better off without him.
shmenge
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.18.2011

Feb 16 @ 1:48 PM ET
Let's say the trade bait is the same... who would you rather have on your team?

Rick Nash (6 more years at $ 7.8 Million)
or
Jeff Carter (10 more years at $ 5.273 Million)

- AlfieisKing

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Richieattack18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Girouxsalem
Joined: 07.13.2010

Feb 16 @ 1:49 PM ET
Isn't Carter more of a shooter than passer. We already have shooters.
I'd take that big body Nash instead of Carter TBH.

- MCharisma91

They both are big but Carter has 2.5 mil less of a cap hit and signed for alot of years. He is also a center and you wouldnt give up as much to get him.
MillerTime3011
Buffalo Sabres
Location: CO
Joined: 07.11.2011

Feb 16 @ 1:49 PM ET
Did that actually happen? If so...that is indeed the most epic troll ever lol

Absolutely hate Heatley...and I hate the Sens.

- Asparatrout



Kaleta's very first NHL game was against the Senators when the big brawl happened when Drury got lit up... and Peters fought Emergy..

Well right before the faceoff which sparked the brawl... you see kaleta and heatley at the top of the screen I think pushing and shoving eachother..

This is when that conversation supposedly happened...

Kaleta forever will be a Sabre to me...
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: *flush*, NH
Joined: 04.27.2011

Feb 16 @ 1:51 PM ET
Kaleta's very first NHL game was against the Senators when the big brawl happened when Drury got lit up... and Peters fought Emergy..

Well right before the faceoff which sparked the brawl... you see kaleta and heatley at the top of the screen I think pushing and shoving eachother..

This is when that conversation supposedly happened...

Kaleta forever will be a DOOSH to me...

- MillerTime3011


Fixed!
Asparatrout
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: oakville, ON
Joined: 07.16.2011

Feb 16 @ 1:51 PM ET
So you trade away your young guys and a 30 goal scorer for a potentially 40 goal scorer in Nash? You guys would be screwed. Nash might not even hit 30 goals this year, he is over rated. And his cap hit is 7.8 mil. I would salivate over some of the guys some leaf fans are willing to give up to get Nash. You are better off without him.
- Richieattack18


I make the deal because Nash (while having an off year) has posted two 40 goal years (almost 3 - one year at 38 goals) and four 30+ goal years...this guy is very consistent. While I really have warmed to Grabo...I think Nash would be a better fit given his size and presence. Grabo will command upwards of $5 mill which is a steep price to pay. I just think Nash would be a better playoff performer than Grabo. The question is...is Nash worth 2.8 million more than Grabo a year...hmmm
A_Tree
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm r00ting for you™ - KS, ON
Joined: 05.06.2011

Feb 16 @ 1:52 PM ET
Cap hits remain the same......... the salary may go down
- faceto27


You're right. Even so, it's worth it.
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