i remember when sabres fans were crying over the thought of Miller to Detroit
they love him
- wingz4life

Detroit is the only place I can see Miller actually wanting to play..

Miller has said numerous times that he does not want to leave Buffalo and that he would rather die with a "sabre" (the sword) in his chest than be traded..

Kane for Roy+ maybe... but Miller is not leaving the blue and gold

no, not even close to being an option.
- LizzyJo

I agree but when Miller (and the whole team) was struggling, a lot of Buf fans were saying that.

I don't think any of us think one change will fix this. I'm okay with the basic makeup of our defense, but most of us want a drastic change in the forward department along with the front office.
- snowstorm077

I don't see as many games as I should to judge them as a team but on paper I like the defense, the offense needs an entire revamping. keeping only a few of those players (Vanek, Roy, Pominville, not really high on Stafford) and trade the young players, a package would get GM's attention for a #1 center

who the hell would sign Tyutin to that contract
4,5 mill cap hit starting next season
he took on the Carter deal which ends when the sun explodes in 1billion years

how does Howson still have a job..
- wingz4life

He won't for long

i thought the sabres got their number 1 center this off season in ville leino. and from what i understand pat kane played pivot a little at the beginning of the year. next topic

let's be realistic about Nash's "list". If I were him, I'd stay away from any club that's about to blow itself up, has JUST started a rebuild or a club that's only going to contend for a few more years before it has to be stripped down again.

hey im talking realistically, 90% it doesn't happen. would be a stupid move on buffalo's part. kane is a winger we need a center and enroth is no where near ready to be our starter in my opinion.
- LizzyJo

This trade wouldn't be about this year. The thinking for Buffalo is that they might be better off in the long run, cuz this year is pretty much lost anyway

I agree but when Miller (and the whole team) was struggling, a lot of Buf fans were saying that.
- clarkysduster

a lot of our fans can't keep a clear realistic head when they are losing.

He won't for long
- eichiefs9

well. if they are going to fire him they better do it now
whats the point of allowing him to trade Nash and then firing him


they need to wait to trade Nash until the offseason
-fire howson and move Nash at the draft

hey im talking realistically, 90% it doesn't happen. would be a stupid move on buffalo's part. kane is a winger we need a center and enroth is no where near ready to be our starter in my opinion.
- LizzyJo

I don't disagree but if people close to miller are saying he would accept a trade to Chicago, its likely his heart isn't exactly in it right now in Buffalo, and if you can get a premier winger in patrick Kane... hometown, you take it? Sabres aren't winning.making playoffs with miller and havent made noise in the last three seasons with him, so I don't quite see the argument that it would be stupid.

Is enroth going ot make the team worse? I mean, with Miller they are 4pts out of the 2nd overall pick

i thought the sabres got their number 1 center this off season in ville leino. and from what i understand pat kane played pivot a little at the beginning of the year. next topic
- nmbr4bborr

More flyer fans trolling..

More flyer fans trolling..


- MillerTime3011

Well at least you've developed the ability to sense your own kind now.

LOL Ville Leino was a bad one. He was only successful with Hartnell and Danny B. Bad move on Buffalo. Contracts are getting ridiculous, we'll just have to see how the new CBA plays out.

That may be true with not so many FA Centers hitting the market, but the smart ones will test the market and you only need 1 to say yes
- mckeenml

and look how Hartnell is now, without that Leino crap playing with him

I don't disagree but if people close to miller are saying he would accept a trade to Chicago, its likely his heart isn't exactly in it right now in Buffalo, and if you can get a premier winger in patrick Kane... hometown, you take it? Sabres aren't winning.making playoffs with miller and havent made noise in the last three seasons with him, so I don't quite see the argument that it would be stupid.

Is enroth going ot make the team worse? I mean, with Miller they are 4pts out of the 2nd overall pick
- mcampbl47

i don't believe that at all, he has stated many many times he would rather fall on a sabre than get traded. but hey we don't know what goes on behind closed doors.

What the (frank)? Why would we give all that up for Nash or Carter?

Nash can't come here. 7.8 + 6.7 + 9.5 = bad.
- Blackstrom2

pretty sure his request was about as serious as ek's posts.

good one, ek. celebrating april fools day early...got me...lol

Personally.. I bet Myers would get the biggest return haul over Myers...

Miller hasn't allowed more than 3 goals in his last 9 games.. with two shutouts against NYR and Boston..

he isn't going anywhere...

If Kane played center this trade would be a serious threat to happen.. but we don't need another undersized winger that has no body to pass it to him..
- MillerTime3011

If Kane comes to Buffalo he plays center for sure. On this team, a guy with that kind of skill, I want him playing center. Chicago has Toews and Sharp to put out there in front of him or else they might consider it too. Who do we have to put infront of him in Buffalo? Vanek Kane Pominville line would be scary.
But this will never happen, so what a waste of typing.

Personally.. I bet Myers would get the biggest return haul over Myers...

Miller hasn't allowed more than 3 goals in his last 9 games.. with two shutouts against NYR and Boston..

he isn't going anywhere...

If Kane played center this trade would be a serious threat to happen.. but we don't need another undersized winger that has no body to pass it to him..
- MillerTime3011

If we trade Myers, we'd have to make a run at Weber or Suter. Myers shown what he can do, but he's also had some pretty bad runs of play. If we could bring back something big with him (i.e. Getzlaf) I'd be okay with it, but I would really want us to make an honest effort to bring in one of the Nashville defensemen.

I don't disagree but if people close to miller are saying he would accept a trade to Chicago, its likely his heart isn't exactly in it right now in Buffalo, and if you can get a premier winger in patrick Kane... hometown, you take it? Sabres aren't winning.making playoffs with miller and havent made noise in the last three seasons with him, so I don't quite see the argument that it would be stupid.

Is enroth going ot make the team worse? I mean, with Miller they are 4pts out of the 2nd overall pick
- mcampbl47

no one close to miller is saying he would accept any trade... Miller said that he does not want to be traded once so ever.. he would rather die with a Sabre (the sword) in his chest than be traded..

STFU

Do flyer fans really have nothing better to do??

Don't you have a borderline bi-polar goaltender to over pay and then want to trade immediately?
- MillerTime3011

And Buffalo fans continue to show why it would be absolutely hilarious if Ryan Miller got traded... pure entertainment for the rest of the league

If we trade Myers, we'd have to make a run at Weber or Suter. Myers shown what he can do, but he's also had some pretty bad runs of play. If we could bring back something big with him (i.e. Getzlaf) I'd be okay with it, but I would really want us to make an honest effort to bring in one of the Nashville defensemen.
- snowstorm077

Anaheim offer Getzlaf for Myers straight up I thought and Regier said no...

I want Stastny...

So here is the issue: We need to send some salary back or we are screwed (just stating the obvious). Let's build up the Nash Trade situation here.

Komi won't go back (NMC that DEFINATELY is NOT waived to go to CLB)
Lombo won't go back (Uninsurable and CLB cannot afford the risk)

There is no way that Burke trades Grabo for Salary, so the only way he goes is bcause he is an integral part of the deal, not a throw in.

So that leaves Connolly or Armstrong.

If Grabovski is part of the deal (which I assume he would have to be) Connolly needs to stay as the 2nd line centre. So he won't be included. I guess that leaves Armstrong.

Personally I am OK with this, as he has been injury prone and hasn't regained his form really. Considering the $3.0 cap hit, he is expendable if need be.

So that starts the deal with Grabo + Army.

They'll need the piece on defence, so let's throw Schenn in there, as I'm sure they will ask for him.

So the question is what is left for Nash? We have $9.5M going back, which more than covers Nash's Salary, but I would assume that CBJ is going to want sme salary coming back for a UFA in order to cover this. This would indicate either Huselius or Pahlsson on their way to Toronto. Burke has a History with Pahlsson, and considering he is a Centre, I could see them targetting him as Grabo's replacement for the rest of the year, releasing him at the end, and replacing his roster spot with Colborne next year.

So we have:

Grabo (2.9) + Schenn (3.6) + Army (3.0) for Nash (7.8) + Pahlsson (2.65)

We are still missing a piece or two on the Leafs. CLB needs goaltending, but there is no way they target Reimer or Gusty as Burke values them too much for what they CURRENTLY bring. So they will need to look to dealCarter for a goalie with some other team.

So lets throw in our 1st this year. Seems logical with the Jackets looking for a rebuild, but being in the 15th overall are is not too highly valued, so we need another piece.

I cannot see Kadri or Kuli being added as the last piece if we already gave up our first (Burke wouldn't do it, I have a feeling). So unless we dropped the pick back to a 2nd and added one of those, we'd have to look at something else.

My guess? One of Holzer or Blacker. Cheap prospects with some nice potential.

So the two possibilites as I see it are:

1) Grabo + Schenn + Army + Blacker/Holzer + 2012 1st for Nash + Pahlsson

or

2) Grabo + Schenn + Army + Kadri/Kuli + 2012 2nd for Nash + Pahlsson

Personally I see #1 as the more likely option that Burke would go with.

Problem is that there are other teams involved, and I think that it would take Kadri/Kuli and a 1st (rather than a 2nd) to land Nash.

I think this is too much. Are there any Leaf fans that actually would still do it?

If Kane comes to Buffalo he plays center for sure. On this team, a guy with that kind of skill, I want him playing center. Chicago has Toews and Sharp to put out there in front of him or else they might consider it too. Who do we have to put infront of him in Buffalo? Vanek Kane Pominville line would be scary.
But this will never happen, so what a waste of typing.
- puttinonthefoil

Can we stop with this attempt to convert wingers to centers please?

i don't believe that at all, he has stated many many times he would rather fall on a sabre than get traded. but hey we don't know what goes on behind closed doors.
- LizzyJo

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i thought the sabres got their number 1 center this off season in ville leino. and from what i understand pat kane played pivot a little at the beginning of the year. next topic
- nmbr4bborr

way to kick a team when they are down

Penner for Colborne and a first
- Symba007

Bahahahah!