You aren't a happy camper that these draft picks are evaporating like a puddle of water in the desert eh?
- PLindbergh31

two second round picks one for a younger guy that plays in the top 4 or 5 and the other for an experienced rental. Not a big deal IMO. I'll take a guy who has proven he can play in the NHL like Grossman over the chance that you take on a second round pick.

They could be like the eagles instead and stockpile so many picks that they can't even sign all of them.

what is going on... i step away from the comp for a few hours and we might be getting kubina... nash... and trading a goalie????? what is the latest word?

- RooNosHockey

Already got Kubina.

You aren't a happy camper that these draft picks are evaporating like a puddle of water in the desert eh?
- PLindbergh31

At least pinotchio has another russian to pick on.

two second round picks one for a younger guy that plays in the top 4 or 5 and the other for an experienced rental. Not a big deal IMO. I'll take a guy who has proven he can play in the NHL like Grossman over the chance that you take on a second round pick.

They could be like the eagles instead and stockpile so many picks that they can't even sign all of them.
- ukeman

I liked the Grossman trade. I'm hoping he plays well and is signed to a cap friendly contract, don't understand this Kubina trade at all.

Grossman is 27 and could easily be re-signed if he looks solid. Kubina cost a second and a fourth we got in other trades. Nash is just a rumor right now. A little early to call it panic mode - just shoring up the defense a little.

I understand the importance of depth through drafting but people act like a second round pick is gold.
- ukeman

chances of a 2nd rnd pick having a signif NHL career are ~ 1 in 6... 17%.

then again, Shea weber was a 2nd rnder...

At least pinotchio has another russian to pick on.
- Just5

Kubina is a Czech.

I liked the Grossman trade. I'm hoping he plays well and is signed to a cap friendly contract, don't understand this Kubina trade at all.
- PLindbergh31

Kubina is more of a "win now" move and I agree they probably don't have a chance at that. We'll see what else they do this week. The stories of them trying to get a third goalie have been circulating for awhile and I think might have something to them.

Grossman is 27 and could easily be re-signed if he looks solid. Kubina cost a second and a fourth we got in other trades. Nash is just a rumor right now. A little early to call it panic mode - just shoring up the defense a little.

I understand the importance of depth through drafting but people act like a second round pick is gold.
- ukeman

Timonen
Meszaros
Carle
Coburn
Grossman
Kubina
Bourdon
Lilja
Gustafsson
Walker
Bartulis

Death count?

*ahem*

Mood?

two second round picks one for a younger guy that plays in the top 4 or 5 and the other for an experienced rental. Not a big deal IMO. I'll take a guy who has proven he can play in the NHL like Grossman over the chance that you take on a second round pick.

They could be like the eagles instead and stockpile so many picks that they can't even sign all of them.
- ukeman

Who was the last D man that the Flyers drafted that actually played on the team more than 1 or 2 seasons? I can't even remember?

Kubina is more of a "win now" move and I agree they probably don't have a chance at that. We'll see what else they do this week. The stories of them trying to get a third goalie have been circulating for awhile and I think might have something to them.
- ukeman

the only big deal that would make sense for me at this point would be something like JVR and bob for Bernier and whatever...want no part of Nash.

Kubina is more of a "win now" move and I agree they probably don't have a chance at that. We'll see what else they do this week. The stories of them trying to get a third goalie have been circulating for awhile and I think might have something to them.
- ukeman

Well any other moves will involve current roster players going the other way. Flyers currently have less than 1m in cap space available, and are back at 50 contracts. At least Holmgren isn't likely to trade away any more draft picks.

Already got Kubina.
- PLindbergh31

At leasr I can say I saw this coming a couple days ago, although I thought it might be gill and kubina.... for Johnson... or Schenn... But I knew we were getting 2 defenseman...


My question is... What is going on with Columbus... are we really in on Nash.. Or is it Mason.... Is Bryz getting traded, or is Bob? WTF?

chances of a 2nd rnd pick having a signif NHL career are ~ 1 in 6... 17%.

then again, Shea weber was a 2nd rnder...
- isaiah520

and kim johnsson was taken dead last in 1994. you just never know.

I liked the Grossman trade. I'm hoping he plays well and is signed to a cap friendly contract, don't understand this Kubina trade at all.
- PLindbergh31

I understand it, don't necessarily agree with it. On the surface, it's not a horrible trade-basically gave up the same thing they did for Grossman for a guy who is a solid two way defenseman and has a really good point shot.

Using Bill's theory that even if Grossman is a rental the price paid was fair, the same applies to Kubina. The top six should now be solid. No MAB or Gus on a learning curve, no Lilja unless somebody's nicked up.

Short term it solidifies the team. Where I don't agree with it is, that the available LTIR space is pretty much gone now and neither guy added is really a difference maker.

their current theme song
- JoeRussomanno

thought u went to bed

Who was the last D man that the Flyers drafted that actually played on the team more than 1 or 2 seasons? I can't even remember?
- rockychocbill

\Chris Therien.

Who was the last D man that the Flyers drafted that actually played on the team more than 1 or 2 seasons? I can't even remember?
- rockychocbill

Joni Pitkanen was here for 4 years.

I liked the Grossman trade. I'm hoping he plays well and is signed to a cap friendly contract, don't understand this Kubina trade at all.
- PLindbergh31

I like Grossman more than Gill, Gill's pretty slow

thought u went to bed
- puckhead17

Eh I decided to work on somethings and just clicked over to see what was going on

Death count?

*ahem*

Mood?
- Flyskippy

we all want to present homer with liljas-of-the-valley...

Death count?

*ahem*

Mood?
- Flyskippy

greatest back read ever but to answer your question its 2006-2007 in here

I understand it, don't necessarily agree with it. On the surface, it's not a horrible trade-basically gave up the same thing they did for Grossman for a guy who is a solid two way defenseman and has a really good point shot.

Using Bill's theory that even if Grossman is a rental the price paid was fair, the same applies to Kubina. The top six should now be solid. No MAB or Gus on a learning curve, no Lilja unless somebody's nicked up.

Short term it solidifies the team. Where I don't agree with it is, that the available LTIR space is pretty much gone now and neither guy added is really a difference maker.
- Jsaquella

Fair points. The second trade depletes more draft picks though, leaving the cupboard somewhat barren of second round picks.

And if the goaltending doesn't significantly improve these trades won't amount to a hill of beans.

Eh I decided to work on somethings and just clicked over to see what was going on
- JoeRussomanno

Same shi%

the penguin dude is gone

greatest back read ever but to answer your question its 2006-2007 in here
- JoeRussomanno

Oh noes! We missed the playoffs!