no the barreling down the wing is his worst spot. I can say what you said about any goalie, now stop it or I'm putting you on my 2real list.
- JoeRussomanno

haha 2real was mentioned in the LA boards by Matt Barry

Oh, but John, all of Bryz's goals are soft like puppy fur and all of Bob's goals were terribly tough like Ghengis Khan's marauding hoards! You know this is true!
- bodiva88

The expectations for Bryzgalov, and Bobrovsky are night and day. (And rightfully so). Bryzgalov should be out preforming him by a wide margin.

I mentioned earlier in the thread that Kubina has zero PP points this season. Not sure if that is a product of him not getting regular PP time in TB, or what.
- PLindbergh31

Sorry I jumped in late and missed that. Kubina has had off and on years but in his good years he has done very well on the pp. He has a big shot and sees the ice well. I like this trade. Not likely he will be back next year because he is a ufa and will be overpaid by somebody. Flyers will have to sign Grossman before they sign Kubina I would think but not likely both.

They have the Carnival. Usually they practice on carnival day.
- bodiva88

The carnival started early today during the 3rd period

Stats-wise, not really, in that he had a 2.98 GAA and a .906 SV% in 2008-09, compared with 2.79 and a .900 this year. Neither are stellar.

I would say he can only get better (from this year). Give him (most of) the starts the rest of the year and let it play out.
- Flyskippy

I see no other choice, but I would try and get a new b/u.

Exactly, Bernier is highly rated but could strike out here as well. It is almost like it is a mental thing for goalies playing here with all the negative history. As for Mike Smith it should be pointed out that he has been a star in a good portion of Coyote wins and has had several 35 and up save perfomances and a few in the 40's. I watch all Coyotes games and seriously he is their mvp by a longshot despite Vrbata and Whitney bringing it every night.
- flyerdude17

Smith has never approached numbers like he is putting up this year. Perhaps there is something to Tippet's system that is goaltender friendly.

So he's playing second unit PP, you would think with Stamkos usually staying out for a full 2 minutes during each Lightning PP, Kubina would have gotten an assist blindfolded...
- PLindbergh31

Stamkos isn't scoring off rebounds. Marty's feeding him like a veal.

Funny thing is, looking at the PP production of their defensemen, only MA Bergeron is doing anything. He's got 9 points(8 helpers). Eric Brewer has 3 assists, Bruno Gervais has 1 goal and 1 assist, and Brendan Mikkelson-who they just got recently-has a helper.

The expectations for Bryzgalov, and Bobrovsky are night and day. (And rightfully so). Bryzgalov should be out preforming him by a wide margin.
- PLindbergh31

No doubt. One is a veteran and been around for years, the other is in his second year. Bryz is suppose to be a top tier goalie in this league and its time to perform with the upgrades on defense.

Sorry I jumped in late and missed that. Kubina has had off and on years but in his good years he has done very well on the pp. He has a big shot and sees the ice well. I like this trade. Not likely he will be back next year because he is a ufa and will be overpaid by somebody. Flyers will have to sign Grossman before they sign Kubina I would think but not likely both.
- flyerdude17

He does have a big shot, and is right handed. He can def help. Just because he didn't contribute to Tampa's PP, doesn't mean he can't help the Flyers PP

Smith has never approached numbers like he is putting up this year. Perhaps there is something to Tippet's system that is goaltender friendly.
- PLindbergh31

There is. Tippett is a strict defense first coach. His teams usually don't allow glorious chances and clear rebounds like they could kill their moms.

I see no other choice, but I would try and get a new b/u.
- isaiah520

And then the b/u outplays him by chance when he struggles, and then there goes the "what do we do with him now"? gig

no matter who you bring in, it sends a bad message

He does have a big shot, and is right handed. He can def help. Just because he didn't contribute to Tampa's PP, doesn't mean he can't help the Flyers PP
- PLindbergh31

And, let's face it, Dominic Moore got somebody a 2nd rounder. It's not impossible to add them if needed.

And, let's face it, Dominic Moore got somebody a 2nd rounder. It's not impossible to add them if needed.
- Jsaquella

Dominic Moore 3 years in a row a 2nd rounder at that

Smith has never approached numbers like he is putting up this year. Perhaps there is something to Tippet's system that is goaltender friendly.
- PLindbergh31

people keep mentioning their commitment to team defense. maybe the flyers should look into that because i have certainly noticed that the games where the flyers play decent team D it sure has helped both bryz and bob's numbers. might be some sort of correlation there.

There is. Tippett is a strict defense first coach. His teams usually don't allow glorious chances and clear rebounds like they could kill their moms.
- Jsaquella

Until they meet the Winged Wheel in the playoffs, then they get exposed as frauds.

Stats-wise, not really, in that he had a 2.98 GAA and a .906 SV% in 2008-09, compared with 2.79 and a .900 this year. Neither are stellar.

I would say he can only get better (from this year). Give him (most of) the starts the rest of the year and let it play out.
- Flyskippy

Just so everyone knows Bryz's numbers over the last 10 starts not including the one relief of Bob against NJ are= 2.10 gaa and .928 so yea let's kick the guy to the curb because hey even when he was out the team was playing so great on these afternoon games right?

people keep mentioning their commitment to team defense. maybe the flyers should look into that because i have certainly noticed that the games where the flyers play decent team D it sure has helped both bryz and bob's numbers. might be some sort of correlation there.
- Don'tForgetTocchet

I suggest the Tampa Bay / New Jersey trap.... with Kubina enroute he will help the trapping

And then the b/u outplays him by chance when he struggles, and then there goes the "what do we do with him now"? gig

no matter who you bring in, it sends a bad message
- puckhead17

can't continue w/ the current duo- they've failed. at least have a b/u ready in case of injury cause bob has wilted as much as bryz- there has to be some change.

I see no other choice, but I would try and get a new b/u.
- isaiah520

Not me. Stick with what we have and deal with it. When the TDL passes, the players know they have to find the answers within themselves and trust each other.

Lando: "Here goes nothing!"

*blows up Death Star*

*wins*

people keep mentioning their commitment to team defense. maybe the flyers should look into that because i have certainly noticed that the games where the flyers play decent team D it sure has helped both bryz and bob's numbers. might be some sort of correlation there.
- Don'tForgetTocchet

They are completely symbiotic but according to some here he is paid to stop whatever comes his way. Even though goalies who are paid more struggle at times and do not always do these things.

Smith has never approached numbers like he is putting up this year. Perhaps there is something to Tippet's system that is goaltender friendly.
- PLindbergh31

Smith showed signs of this early on in his career with Dallas but was hit with head injury problems. Tampa thought highly enough of him to deal for him as their starter but he had injuries again. He is a breakout goalie that seems to have put it together at 29 I believe he is. No doubt Tippett has instilled some real confidence in him just like he gets through to all of his players. Smith has always had the talent.

They are completely symbiotic but according to some here he is paid to stop whatever comes his way. Even though goalies who are paid more struggle at times and do not always do these things.
- JoeRussomanno

i saw fleury let in a real stinker tonight

i wonder if the pens fans have strung him outside their arena yet

Just so everyone knows Bryz's numbers over the last 10 starts not including the one relief of Bob against NJ are= 2.10 gaa and .928 so yea let's kick the guy to the curb because hey even when he was out the team was playing so great on these afternoon games right?
- JoeRussomanno

Absolutely get your gist and agree with the sentiment implied by the sarcasm.

I still wonder what we'd have here if Bob was "the guy" again this season with a different backup. Surely, we wouldn't have what we would have expected from Bryz, but Bob + confidence instilled in him from the team as opposed to being made second fiddle = ??? > What we have now.

They are completely symbiotic but according to some here he is paid to stop whatever comes his way. Even though goalies who are paid more struggle at times and do not always do these things.
- JoeRussomanno

thought u went to......lol


cookies & beer time

i saw fleury let in a real stinker tonight

i wonder if the pens fans have strung him outside their arena yet
- Don'tForgetTocchet

It takes six hours to drive back. They'll do it tomorrow.