http://deadspin.com/5886937/

Count out any trades with the Leafs.
- eichiefs9

Is there anything Milbury (the anti-Midas) hasn't (frank)ed up?

http://deadspin.com/5886937/

Count out any trades with the Leafs.
- eichiefs9

He goes, ‘Charles [Wang] doesn't want to do it.' I said, ‘Who's the GM – you or Charles?'

Burke might be happy to know we're still asking similar questions today.

As long as we relying on Rolston, we going nowhere. He complete destroys the Bailey Line. The only time bailey and martin sync are when they are killing Penatly. That is telling you something.

Reasoner sucks.

Also, I know you guys dont agree but One Dimensional Moulson does not help when he not scoring. He never goes to the boards and just waits in front of next for JT to do all the dirty work in the corners. Hence why JT is exhausted.

I know you say Moulson is 30+ scorer but i wonder how many he scores without JT. I say he would have no more than 15 on year.

Since this team does not want to make the playoffs (losses to Tor (twice), Ott, Habs, FL) then they should get huge value for Moulson, PA, Nabby.

Get some Winner for next year. Big FA LW like Parise and some real dman.

Finally, where is this EATON demanding trade story?
- Spartiarti

Only an Islander fan can knock a guy who is going to score 30 goals for the 3rd straight year

Crappy could be in trouble if the Islanders play well tonight under Weight...would be interesting if he puts Nino on one of the top two lines...if he does...he should be the head coach...
- kear20

The next head coach should be someone with NHL experience, a proven track record of marginal success with young teams. It should not be another guy with either no experience at all (Weight) or a career AHL guy looking to break into the NHL. If they're not going to bring in a legit coach, they might as well stick with what they have for continuity's sake.

As for yesterday's debacle, this team really knows how to kick the fans in the stomach at just the right times. Every time they get in striking distance of a playoff spot, they lay an egg and pull a no-show. From the goal out, this team is rarely ready to play from the opening drop fo the puck. That's on both the players and the coaching staff. This team has thrown away at least a dozen points this season by not showing up for the first five minutes of a game and falling behind by a pair or more goals early on. When are the lame-a** starts going to stop? Until they do, the playoffs are not attainable.

The next head coach should be someone with NHL experience, a proven track record of marginal success with young teams. It should not be another guy with either no experience at all (Weight) or a career AHL guy looking to break into the NHL. If they're not going to bring in a legit coach, they might as well stick with what they have for continuity's sake.

As for yesterday's debacle, this team really knows how to kick the fans in the stomach at just the right times. Every time they get in striking distance of a playoff spot, they lay an egg and pull a no-show. From the goal out, this team is rarely ready to play from the opening drop fo the puck. That's on both the players and the coaching staff. This team has thrown away at least a dozen points this season by not showing up for the first five minutes of a game and falling behind by a pair or more goals early on. When are the lame-a** starts going to stop? Until they do, the playoffs are not attainable.
- Jethro09

You should have went after Hitch. I agree.

You should have went after Hitch. I agree.
- bixll

I hate to watch the defensive style of Hitch, but you can't argue with the success he has. I would have much rather seen Hitch coach this team than Cappy.

I agree with you but Snow is a lousy GM...I met him two years ago in tampa when I was on business...nice guy but stubborn...doesn't want to give up young guys for established players....
- kear20

What bixll said.

The next head coach should be someone with NHL experience, a proven track record of marginal success with young teams. It should not be another guy with either no experience at all (Weight) or a career AHL guy looking to break into the NHL. If they're not going to bring in a legit coach, they might as well stick with what they have for continuity's sake.

As for yesterday's debacle, this team really knows how to kick the fans in the stomach at just the right times. Every time they get in striking distance of a playoff spot, they lay an egg and pull a no-show. From the goal out, this team is rarely ready to play from the opening drop fo the puck. That's on both the players and the coaching staff. This team has thrown away at least a dozen points this season by not showing up for the first five minutes of a game and falling behind by a pair or more goals early on. When are the lame-a** starts going to stop? Until they do, the playoffs are not attainable.
- Jethro09

Well said all around.

The next head coach should be someone with NHL experience, a proven track record of marginal success with young teams. It should not be another guy with either no experience at all (Weight) or a career AHL guy looking to break into the NHL. If they're not going to bring in a legit coach, they might as well stick with what they have for continuity's sake.

As for yesterday's debacle, this team really knows how to kick the fans in the stomach at just the right times. Every time they get in striking distance of a playoff spot, they lay an egg and pull a no-show. From the goal out, this team is rarely ready to play from the opening drop fo the puck. That's on both the players and the coaching staff. This team has thrown away at least a dozen points this season by not showing up for the first five minutes of a game and falling behind by a pair or more goals early on. When are the lame-a** starts going to stop? Until they do, the playoffs are not attainable.
- Jethro09

Once they find a coach who motivates them.

I hate to watch the defensive style of Hitch, but you can't argue with the success he has. I would have much rather seen Hitch coach this team than Cappy.
- Jethro09

You need to get the players resspect, and then buy into the coaches system. Whatever that is. Then follow the system to a tee. Hitch has the Blues playing awesome hockey, no personel changes. Just sound hockey, and a team following the leader and working hard.

Since everyone is talking trades...

You can be the Isles GM and make one move before the deadline for whoever you want. Who is it for and what are you giving up? (no deals that include Rolston and the other stiffs)

Since everyone is talking trades...

You can be the Isles GM and make one move before the deadline for whoever you want. Who is it for and what are you giving up? (no deals that include Rolston and the other stiffs)
- brodydog29

I don't make any. We aren't legitimate cup contenders so moving anything of real value is just mortgaging the future to still lose in the first round. Since they're going to try to re-sign PA and Nabokov, we don't have anything else to trade.

I don't make any. We aren't legitimate cup contenders so moving anything of real value is just mortgaging the future to still lose in the first round. Since they're going to try to re-sign PA and Nabokov, we don't have anything else to trade.
- eichiefs9

If they're not signed by the deadline, they're likely not coming back next season. Just deal them if they don't sign the dotted line. I know PA and his agent have said all the right things. So did Ville Leino, his agent, and Philly's GM. We know how that one turned out.

If they're not signed by the deadline, they're likely not coming back next season. Just deal them if they don't sign the dotted line. I know PA and his agent have said all the right things. So did Ville Leino, his agent, and Philly's GM. We know how that one turned out.
- UIF

Like it or not, that's not gonna happen. I'd bet that there is a better chance of Nabokov being here next year than PA. Some team with crappy scoring depth is going to give him $4M/year and he's going to jump.

Who do you think is better Brock Nelson or Strome? You probably have to give one up to get Ryan or Getzlaf...they say Nelson is a stud in college...
- kear20

strome..nelson will need time in bport after college...i like nelson but he is going to take longer to make the team

How about Nelson and Lee?
- kear20

i like both but i think they are more of projects than other prospects..they will both need time in bport...i would move lee over nelson

Like it or not, that's not gonna happen. I'd bet that there is a better chance of Nabokov being here next year than PA. Some team with crappy scoring depth is going to give him $4M/year and he's going to jump.
- eichiefs9

Right, so why not trade him if he won't sign before the deadline? If it goes past the deadline, our chances of re-signing him drop sharply. Not worth losing him for nothing just for a highly unlikely playoff push.

I don't make any. We aren't legitimate cup contenders so moving anything of real value is just mortgaging the future to still lose in the first round. Since they're going to try to re-sign PA and Nabokov, we don't have anything else to trade.
- eichiefs9

Not talking about that. Talking about to make the team better for future, not a 1st round loss. Isles can't get FA here so you get a chance to make a move for a player under contract. Use your imagination Chiefs, use farm players and picks too, not just current NHL Islanders

i like both but i think they are more of projects than other prospects..they will both need time in bport...i would move lee over nelson
- NYI78

Looking strictly at numbers, I agree. Lee exploded out of the gate, but looks to have slowed down. Nelson's having an impressive season, and what I really like is that he played a defensive shutdown role last year, so his game should be well rounded by the time he gets to B-port.

If they're not signed by the deadline, they're likely not coming back next season. Just deal them if they don't sign the dotted line. I know PA and his agent have said all the right things. So did Ville Leino, his agent, and Philly's GM. We know how that one turned out.
- UIF

Ya never know what a players' ultimate motivation is but it's kinda stupid for P.A to just take whatever Garth offers. I mean, if you get to the negotiating/haggling stage, the GM says player is worth "x" but no more because of x,y,& z or he compares to so & so who makes "x" salary. the GM will always cite the deficiencies of a player in order to get the price down.

But if PA waits for other offers, then the GM HAS to match or risk losing.

That being said, I think PA will be back next year. No guarantee he'll see 1st/2nd line ice time with another team, even if they outbid Garth.

Not talking about that. Talking about to make the team better for future, not a 1st round loss. Isles can't get FA here so you get a chance to make a move for a player under contract. Use your imagination Chiefs, use farm players and picks too, not just current NHL Islanders
- brodydog29

You said before the deadline. If I was the GM I wouldn't make a single move before next Monday, obviously unless there was a great steal to be had. You're almost always going to overpay at the deadline. If you asked if I would make trades after the season, at the draft, and/or before the beginning of next season..that's a different story. My point is that there's no reason to rush into a deal and force one in the next 6 days. I wouldn't do that at all.

Looking strictly at numbers, I agree. Lee exploded out of the gate, but looks to have slowed down. Nelson's having an impressive season, and what I really like is that he played a defensive shutdown role last year, so his game should be well rounded by the time he gets to B-port.
- UIF

I think Lee could have a little more high-end scoring upside. But I think Nelson will be a better overall player. In the end I think Nelson will turn out to be the better of the two.

Ya never know what a players' ultimate motivation is but it's kinda stupid for P.A to just take whatever Garth offers. I mean, if you get to the negotiating/haggling stage, the GM says player is worth "x" but no more because of x,y,& z or he compares to so & so who makes "x" salary. the GM will always cite the deficiencies of a player in order to get the price down.

But if PA waits for other offers, then the GM HAS to match or risk losing.

That being said, I think PA will be back next year. No guarantee he'll see 1st/2nd line ice time with another team, even if they outbid Garth.
- jmo16

It's not stupid at all if the GM and player are close on what they feel the player is worth. Teams lock up their players before they hit free agency all the time. Heck, even though he would have only been an RFA, Tavares could have made more if he held out until after this season...perhaps someone would have even thrown in a lucrative offer sheet that the Isles would have had to match. He didn't do it though. He and the Isles were close, he wanted to stay, and they hammered out a deal.

The benefit of being the incumbent is you can work on a contract that both sides deem fair before other GMs throw in their offers. If PA holds out, which he has every right to do, then the Isles are better off trading him, because they're not going to be able to...nor should they...compete with what he'll likely get.. I'll say it again, Leino had every intention of staying with Philly. He said so, his agent said so, and Philly's GM said so. Then he got to free agency and received a ridiculous offer from Buffalo. Philly would have been insane to match that offer. Someone will throw in a ridiculous offer for PA, too. It's not worth going to July 1 and hoping for the best. If that's what PA wants to do, then trade him.

What happened to the daily morning blogs????

You said before the deadline. If I was the GM I wouldn't make a single move before next Monday, obviously unless there was a great steal to be had. You're almost always going to overpay at the deadline. If you asked if I would make trades after the season, at the draft, and/or before the beginning of next season..that's a different story. My point is that there's no reason to rush into a deal and force one in the next 6 days. I wouldn't do that at all.
- eichiefs9

if pap and nabokov arent signed within 6 days, trade them both....and yes, without garth actually saying it, to the highest bidder....and no, you dont overpay when youre the seller...if anything, you get MORE by being the seller...the BUYER is the one that has to overpay.

id also try to unload grabner

i think they should hold onto jurcina