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FreshFlyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.17.2011

Feb 26 @ 7:10 PM ET
Why would Winnipeg want to trade him?
- PLindbergh31


I doubt Winnipeg would but if you offer up Bobrovsky and JVR as the article suggested I don't think Winnipeg would say no.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Feb 26 @ 7:10 PM ET
I agree, even if Bryz was to waive his NMC, it would be very hard to find any team willing to take on his contract.
- FreshFlyer


Let's face it he has to play better we know that, but they also have to play better if their own zone. If they can do those you'd probably see them have an amazing level of confidence.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 26 @ 7:12 PM ET
If he doesnt like it here im sure he would asked to be traded. I doubt that has been the case bc he hasnt even played an entire season here yet. Do you really think the pressure is too much for him to handle?
- stveshdy


I think the remainder of the season and playoffs are important obviously. Based on the expectations, if there is no improvement, it's going to be mighty uncomfortable for him next year. I still give him all of next year at least.
EastBeast18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.19.2010

Feb 26 @ 7:12 PM ET

- Scottie Upshall



I could see it now, homer rolling up his sleeves saying to ed" Give me 10 minutes with him , he'll waive it."
FreshFlyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.17.2011

Feb 26 @ 7:13 PM ET
Let's face it he has to play better we know that, but they also have to play better if their own zone. If they can do those you'd probably see them have an amazing level of confidence.
- ob18


I'm hoping those shootout saves last night really helped him with his confidence. He didn't start out well but the fact that he battled hard and stayed in there and got the win really says a lot.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Feb 26 @ 7:13 PM ET
He's from Russia. He played in Phoenix. And yes getting him to go to Columbus would be a miracle of epic status.
- ob18


You love Columbus...
You love Columbus...

PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 26 @ 7:14 PM ET
It would go against their GM staying multiple times he will make a trade as long as it doesn't hurt the long term success of the club. That would hurt their long term success plan.
- ob18


He's an RFA after this year, he's due a big bump, I would think based on his play Winnipeg would definitely get him signed long term.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 26 @ 7:15 PM ET
Let's face it he has to play better we know that, but they also have to play better if their own zone. If they can do those you'd probably see them have an amazing level of confidence.
- ob18


Even when the Flyers play well defensively you cant continue to give up "soft" goals. Im a big supporter of Bryz but he is not living up to expectations. The defense is going to have breakdowns and a top tier goalie like Bryz is suppose to be there to shut the door more often than not. When the Flyers hang him out to dry its obviously not his fault but when your giving up goals on basic shots, then I worry.
FreshFlyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.17.2011

Feb 26 @ 7:16 PM ET
He's an RFA after this year, he's due a big bump, I would think based on his play Winnipeg would definitely get him signed long term.
- PLindbergh31


If they don't it would be a huge mistake. Pavelec is going to end up being one of he best in the league IMO
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Feb 26 @ 7:17 PM ET
I'm hoping those shootout saves last night really helped him with his confidence. He didn't start out well but the fact that he battled hard and stayed in there and got the win really says a lot.
- FreshFlyer


It seems the whole season has been one step forward and two steps back.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 26 @ 7:17 PM ET
I doubt Winnipeg would but if you offer up Bobrovsky and JVR as the article suggested I don't think Winnipeg would say no.
- FreshFlyer


The fact Bryzgalov has been this bad, and these rumors are surfacing is absolutely mind boggling.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 26 @ 7:18 PM ET
I agree, even if Bryz was to waive his NMC, it would be very hard to find any team willing to take on his contract.
- FreshFlyer

CLB took carter's contract
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Feb 26 @ 7:18 PM ET
He's an RFA after this year, he's due a big bump, I would think based on his play Winnipeg would definitely get him signed long term.
- PLindbergh31


Yup, you don't just move him especially now, the market is better later. But I'd think they want him long term.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 26 @ 7:18 PM ET
I doubt Winnipeg would but if you offer up Bobrovsky and JVR as the article suggested I don't think Winnipeg would say no.
- FreshFlyer

what if it was bob and JVR for miller
FreshFlyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.17.2011

Feb 26 @ 7:19 PM ET
It seems the whole season has been one step forward and two steps back.
- 77rams


It has, but for some reason I think this may be the turning point for Bryz. His team-mates battled hard for him last night and I'm betting he wants do the same for them. Hopefully he gets it back on track in the next few games
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Feb 26 @ 7:19 PM ET
I think the remainder of the season and playoffs are important obviously. Based on the expectations, if there is no improvement, it's going to be mighty uncomfortable for him next year. I still give him all of next year at least.
- PLindbergh31

about all we can do
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Feb 26 @ 7:20 PM ET
Even when the Flyers play well defensively you cant continue to give up "soft" goals. Im a big supporter of Bryz but he is not living up to expectations. The defense is going to have breakdowns and a top tier goalie like Bryz is suppose to be there to shut the door more often than not. When the Flyers hang him out to dry its obviously not his fault but when your giving up goals on basic shots, then I worry.
- stveshdy


True but I look at it like this some of those goals should have never even had a shot if the team plays well in front of him.

Yes he does need to stop them not saying he doesn't but the play in front of him should be playing better to limit what pucks he even sees. Look at the team defense the Bruins & Rangers play (yes better goalie play) but look at how good they play in from of them to limit what they even see.
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Feb 26 @ 7:20 PM ET
what if it was bob and JVR for miller
- 2Real


Miller would get killed in this town IMO
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 26 @ 7:21 PM ET
Miller would get killed in this town IMO
- eayost

i dunno he'd be an american hero
FreshFlyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.17.2011

Feb 26 @ 7:22 PM ET
CLB took carter's contract
- 2Real


Yes and look what happened with that. Columbus is looking to clear out salary and get back picks and prospects. They aren't looking for goaltender's with 5 million dollar cap hits and 8 years remaining on their deals.
FreshFlyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.17.2011

Feb 26 @ 7:22 PM ET
what if it was bob and JVR for miller
- 2Real


Not sure if that would be enough
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 26 @ 7:22 PM ET
It has, but for some reason I think this may be the turning point for Bryz. His team-mates battled hard for him last night and I'm betting he wants do the same for them. Hopefully he gets it back on track in the next few games
- FreshFlyer

unfortunately the TDL is tomorrow and might be too little too late
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Feb 26 @ 7:23 PM ET
CLB took carter's contract
- 2Real


For what? Five months?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 26 @ 7:24 PM ET
Yes and look what happened with that. Columbus is looking to clear out salary and get back picks and prospects. They aren't looking for goaltender's with 5 million dollar cap hits and 8 years remaining on their deals.
- FreshFlyer

they only traded carter cause he was acting like the little female dog he is and wanted to get rid of him
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 26 @ 7:24 PM ET
True but I look at it like this some of those goals should have never even had a shot if the team plays well in front of him.

Yes he does need to stop them not saying he doesn't but the play in front of him should be playing better to limit what pucks he even sees. Look at the team defense the Bruins & Rangers play (yes better goalie play) but look at how good they play in from of them to limit what they even see.

- ob18


The reason Boston and NYR play so well on defense is because they believe in each other. They dont have to worry about making a mistake bc they know their goalie is going to make the save more times than not. The Flyers on the other hand are playing like a team that has to worry about everything they do bc if a mistake happens it ends up in the back of the net. IMO the Flyers are pressing and trying to do to much and thats when mistakes happen. They play without confidence at times and some of that has to do with the goaltending. How many more games are they going to play from behind? You cant win that way and in the playoffs the good teams tighten up even more.
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