Chicago is interested in Carle, but won't give up players, but rather picks........I don't see how this happens, we are not the seller type.

Chicago is interested in Carle, but won't give up players, but rather picks........I don't see how this happens, we are not the seller type.
- aosplayo

It actuall said they won't give up nhlers. But prospects and picks I'll take morin and a second

Bryzgalov also pulled things together nicely after his horrendous first period. He was almost angry and defiant in making the saves by time the shootout rolled around. That is exactly the mindset the Flyers need from him: keep battling no matter what.

This. If you aren't pissed about playing crappy, you shouldn't be a professional athlete...you're missing a key competitive component.

In all fairness, the shot itself was irrelevant. The fact that the D allowed Stajan in that position to get off an uncontested shot was.

Should Breeze have stopped it? Probably. Should he have even been put in that position at all? No.

The D poorly played that into a dangerous situation. Stajan simply got off a weak shot. If Stamkos or Malkin, etc, had that opportunity, in that position, Breeze wouldn't have had much of a chance.

The D needs to look into the mirror before they roll their eyes - if in fact Mezzy was actually visually commenting on Breeze's whiff.
- 77rams

How would we separate the great goalies from the average ones if no one ever got off an uncontested shot? The Flyers' defense is far from the best but it's not the worst. I believe there is an expectation that because of the big contract that Bryz was going to be the eraser of mistakes. He's not lived up to it. As far as the eye rolling, it's not good. But if you consider Kimmo's remarks about the goaltending, where there's smoke there's fire. I think the D would be the first to tell you that their game needs to be better but they also recognize that their goalie has been a freak show. As far as Bryz not being able to stop a Malkin or Stamkos, jeez I don't think we should set the expectations bar so low that we're conceding goals to superstars. Bryz is getting a superstar salary and we should expect him to make stops on everybody.

It actuall said they won't give up nhlers. But prospects and picks I'll take morin and a second
- griouxmvp2012

Yea, but I still don't see them moving Carle, do you? Unless they got something else cooking, Carle has been one of if not the best Dman this season. But you're right about the NHLers part, sorry I forgot that.

Chicago is interested in Carle, but won't give up players, but rather picks........I don't see how this happens, we are not the seller type.
- aosplayo

Not interested in moving him at this time, maybe after the season.

Chicago is interested in Carle, but won't give up players, but rather picks........I don't see how this happens, we are not the seller type.
- aosplayo

would make absolutely no sense for us. the vast majority of the time, those picks don't help you until three-or-more years down the road. only way i'd trade carle is if you get a nice, young roster player in return. but that's not going to happen.

Yea, but I still don't see them moving Carle, do you? Unless they got something else cooking, Carle has been one of if not the best Dman this season. But you're right about the NHLers part, sorry I forgot that.
- aosplayo

I think it would be dumb for homer not to listen to offers for him he could fetch a decent return. And you would def get more for him now then you would at the draft so I don't know I'm up in the air on that one

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- bmeltzer

i'm sure a few eyes rolled after meszy blew that open net, too

I've been impressed w/Grossman. I love the way he uses his body.
- flyguy12

i'm digging him

I thought the last minute tie, first pump, and overtime win against the Jets with Bryz making some big stops in the late 3rd and OT was supposed to turn things around? Now last night's win is going to do the trick?? Look at the most important fact surrounding last night's game - they were playing Calgary. Would they come back like that against the NYR, Bos, NJ, Pitts?? No. And we'd be crucifying Bryz. No team can win in the playoffs with their goalie giving up at least 1 soft goal EVERY SINGLE GAME. Not once and while, not every couple games - EVERY SINGLE GAME.

If this team does not pick up a goalie by tomorrow and get lucky with him we're going to see them out in round 1. Guaranteed. For anyone to believe 61 games into the season that Bryz is going to suddenly become the stellar goalie he was for 2 seasons in Phoenix, instead of the average-to-horrible one he's been the rest of his career, is beyond deluded. I would guess these are the same people whose retirement planning involves the PowerBall. Bryz is never going to be a good goalie here - will it actually take another playoff embarrassment for people to stop hoping against hope?? I guess so.

I thought the last minute tie, first pump, and overtime win against the Jets with Bryz making some big stops in the late 3rd and OT was supposed to turn things around? Now last night's win is going to do the trick?? Look at the most important fact surrounding last night's game - they were playing Calgary. Would they come back like that against the NYR, Bos, NJ, Pitts?? No. And we'd be crucifying Bryz. No team can win in the playoffs with their goalie giving up at least 1 soft goal EVERY SINGLE GAME. Not once and while, not every couple games - EVERY SINGLE GAME.

If this team does not pick up a goalie by tomorrow and get lucky with him we're going to see them out in round 1. Guaranteed. For anyone to believe 61 games into the season that Bryz is going to suddenly become the stellar goalie he was for 2 seasons in Phoenix, instead of the average-to-horrible one he's been the rest of his career, is beyond deluded. I would guess these are the same people whose retirement planning involves the PowerBall. Bryz is never going to be a good goalie here - will it actually take another playoff embarrassment for people to stop hoping against hope?? I guess so.
- TS_Downes

Thanks I really needed the advice on my retirment planning, since my 401K has taken a beating over the last couple of years, I was playing Powerball each week just expecting to win to change everything. Now I have to rethink my financial strategy. I feel a lot better now.

bryzgalov is terrible!

I thought the last minute tie, first pump, and overtime win against the Jets with Bryz making some big stops in the late 3rd and OT was supposed to turn things around? Now last night's win is going to do the trick?? Look at the most important fact surrounding last night's game - they were playing Calgary. Would they come back like that against the NYR, Bos, NJ, Pitts?? No. And we'd be crucifying Bryz. No team can win in the playoffs with their goalie giving up at least 1 soft goal EVERY SINGLE GAME. Not once and while, not every couple games - EVERY SINGLE GAME.

If this team does not pick up a goalie by tomorrow and get lucky with him we're going to see them out in round 1. Guaranteed. For anyone to believe 61 games into the season that Bryz is going to suddenly become the stellar goalie he was for 2 seasons in Phoenix, instead of the average-to-horrible one he's been the rest of his career, is beyond deluded. I would guess these are the same people whose retirement planning involves the PowerBall. Bryz is never going to be a good goalie here - will it actually take another playoff embarrassment for people to stop hoping against hope?? I guess so.
- TS_Downes

I dont think the Flyers are a true contender because of goaltending and defense. Im not willing to write Bryz off based on one year. This team has to improve in a number of areas to have a legit shot in the playoffs. They dont play consistent hockey and thats their downfall.

Thanks I really needed the advice on my retirment planning, since my 401K has taken a beating over the last couple of years, I was playing Powerball each week just expecting to win to change everything. Now I have to rethink my financial strategy. I feel a lot better now.
- ravishingone

Financial Planners often suggest Casinos and the Lottery as sound retirement vehicles.

It's true.

I thought the last minute tie, first pump, and overtime win against the Jets with Bryz making some big stops in the late 3rd and OT was supposed to turn things around? Now last night's win is going to do the trick?? Look at the most important fact surrounding last night's game - they were playing Calgary. Would they come back like that against the NYR, Bos, NJ, Pitts?? No. And we'd be crucifying Bryz. No team can win in the playoffs with their goalie giving up at least 1 soft goal EVERY SINGLE GAME. Not once and while, not every couple games - EVERY SINGLE GAME.

If this team does not pick up a goalie by tomorrow and get lucky with him we're going to see them out in round 1. Guaranteed. For anyone to believe 61 games into the season that Bryz is going to suddenly become the stellar goalie he was for 2 seasons in Phoenix, instead of the average-to-horrible one he's been the rest of his career, is beyond deluded. I would guess these are the same people whose retirement planning involves the PowerBall. Bryz is never going to be a good goalie here - will it actually take another playoff embarrassment for people to stop hoping against hope?? I guess so.
- TS_Downes

I wouldn't say it's certain that bryz will never do well here, but this yr looks unrealistic. I also would prefer plan B, because we look like a one and done as it stands. essentially, the flyers are down 1-0 in almost every game they play...

How would we separate the great goalies from the average ones if no one ever got off an uncontested shot? The Flyers' defense is far from the best but it's not the worst. I believe there is an expectation that because of the big contract that Bryz was going to be the eraser of mistakes. He's not lived up to it. As far as the eye rolling, it's not good. But if you consider Kimmo's remarks about the goaltending, where there's smoke there's fire. I think the D would be the first to tell you that their game needs to be better but they also recognize that their goalie has been a freak show. As far as Bryz not being able to stop a Malkin or Stamkos, jeez I don't think we should set the expectations bar so low that we're conceding goals to superstars. Bryz is getting a superstar salary and we should expect him to make stops on everybody.
- 2731color

I'm not conceding anything.

My point was that Stajan should not have been allowed to be in that position at all. The coverage was poor. Whether the save was made or not shouldn't be the only focus of attention and if Meszaros was exaggerating his displeasure with the goal, then he should accept his share of the blame.

Financial Planners often suggest Casinos and the Lottery as sound retirement vehicles.

It's true.
- wolfhounds

Really, I was hoping that would be true. You know since it is such an awful thing to have hope in your life. Having hope, just sucks. Misery and female doging is the much better way.

bryzgalov is terrible!
- 2Real

Yep. I'm done giving him the benefit of the doubt. It's starting to feel like one of those relationships where you keep breaking up and getting back together..... At some point it's gotta end

Yep. I'm done giving him the benefit of the doubt. It's starting to feel like one of those relationships where you keep breaking up and getting back together..... At some point it's gotta end
- moylander

maybe chicago or clb will take him off our hands
he's not a good fit for philly

maybe chicago or clb will take him off our hands
he's not a good fit for philly
- 2Real

If you were the Chicago or Clb GM, would you take him and his salary right now? They see what you see.

It up to us to ride this through.

If you were the Chicago or Clb GM, would you take him and his salary right now? They see what you see.

It up to us to ride this through.
- 77rams

i dunno chicago might get desperate

I'm not conceding anything.

My point was that Stajan should not have been allowed to be in that position at all. The coverage was poor. Whether the save was made or not shouldn't be the only focus of attention and if Meszaros was exaggerating his displeasure with the goal, then he should accept his share of the blame.
- 77rams

Don't expect you to concede anything. Agree that the coverage was poor. My guess is that if you asked Mezzy if he should share the blame he'd say yes. It appears the Flyers need to change their focus from trying to win games to "let's do everything possible to make Moonbeam look good". If the Flyers get to the point of not having any defensive breakdowns, then they can make do with $500,000 journeyman. Until then, I expect the highest paid goalie in hockey to start standing on his head.

Not once and while, not every couple games - EVERY SINGLE GAME.

If this team does not pick up a goalie by tomorrow and get lucky with him we're going to see them out in round 1. Guaranteed. For anyone to believe 61 games into the season that Bryz is going to suddenly become the stellar goalie he was for 2 seasons in Phoenix, instead of the average-to-horrible one he's been the rest of his career, is beyond deluded. I would guess these are the same people whose retirement planning involves the PowerBall. Bryz is never going to be a good goalie here - will it actually take another playoff embarrassment for people to stop hoping against hope?? I guess so.
- TS_Downes

So what were the soft goals he gave up in his shutout?


And he's been "average to horrible" every other year? Methinks you need to look at his stats. He was very good the first 3 yrs... avg gaa of 2.41 and a sv % of. 918. He had a bad yr in 08-09... comparable to this year. Gaa of 2.98 sv % .906. And he responded with 2 stellar years. Its far too early to give up on Bryz.

Bryz needs to address his head and get it on straight. How many times can a team pull itself to a victory despite it's goalie's performance. Thank God this team can score and score a lot. Here is my issue, last year Bob said he was lost and Bryz has said the same this year that will kill a team's spirit. Good for the rest of the team to have enough fight in it to keep moving forward after the goalie lets in weak goal after weak goal.

As I said last night they have to stick with Bryz for this season and hope he finds himself this year if not then over the summer. But if this keeps up next year I really think it is time to try to move him, I know that is quick but this right not be the right place fir him.

He really like this team and what Homer has done with them, but Bryz is the weak link.