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isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Feb 26 @ 3:12 PM ET
the flyers goaltending is the football equiv of a QB that's virtually guaranteed to throw 1 or 2 picks every game. makes it harder for everybody else on the team...undeniable.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 26 @ 3:14 PM ET
look at his shoulder and bicep looks out of proportion to me
- 2Real

His trapezius looks almost undeveloped compared with the rest of his body. There's something funky going on with that picture.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 26 @ 3:14 PM ET
The goaltending hasnt been very good. Routine shots need to be stopped thats why they upgraded to Bryz and got rid of Leighton/Boucher combo. There is no defending those "soft goals". The Flyers need Bryz to step up if they want to have a chance this year. Do I think every goal he gives up is on him? Nope. I do agree it can be draining on a team when you continue to let in questionable goals. I dont see how the Flyers are going to be able to fix that at this point into the season. The team as a whole needs to be better and the goaltending needs to step up and make the saves it should.
- stveshdy


Of course every goal isn't on Bryzgalov, whoever implies that would be an imbecile, the fact of the matter is there are routine shots every game that are ending up in the Flyers net.

First two goals last night are a perfect example of that. Yes, Bryzgalov played well after those goals, and was good in the shootout. Thing is against the top teams in the NHL allowing any soft goals is usually fatal, let alone two.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 26 @ 3:14 PM ET
the flyers goaltending is the football equiv of a QB that's virtually guaranteed to throw 1 or 2 picks every game. makes it harder for everybody else on the team...undeniable.
- isaiah520

mcdirt
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 26 @ 3:16 PM ET
His trapezius looks almost undeveloped compared with the rest of his body. There's something funky going on with that picture.
- bodiva88

he also looks unnaturally large and has to be using something like roids to get that big
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Feb 26 @ 3:16 PM ET
Lindros, Eric + LeClair, John

Giroux, Claude + ?? - I'm not advocating the trade, I can see the logic behind it. Hartsy has been great and unless he really stinks next year, he will be resigned. Nash is on the level of LeClair as a goal scorer.

- ravishingone

Giroux, Claude + vanRiemsdyk, James
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Feb 26 @ 3:18 PM ET
Giroux, Claude + vanRiemsdyk, James
- Crimsoninja


I hope you're right, but if the Flyers move JVR before the deadline, they didn't think he would become LeClair.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Feb 26 @ 3:18 PM ET
Of course every goal isn't on Bryzgalov, who ever implies that would be an imbecile, the fact of the matter is there are routine shots every game that are ending up in the Flyers net.

First two goals last night are a perfect example of that. Yes, Bryzgalov played well after those goals, and was good in the shootout. Thing is against the top teams in the NHL allowing any soft goals is usually fatal, let alone two.

- PLindbergh31

compare last yrs Eli to this past yrs...prob the primary reason the Giants won it all. gives us hope for bryz.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 26 @ 3:18 PM ET
Of course every goal isn't on Bryzgalov, who ever implies that would be an imbecile, the fact of the matter is there are routine shots every game that are ending up in the Flyers net.

First two goals last night are a perfect example of that. Yes, Bryzgalov played well after those goals, and was good in the shootout. Thing is against the top teams in the NHL allowing any soft goals is usually fatal, let alone two.

- PLindbergh31


He needs to be better. In the playoffs "soft goals" will have you heading home. You cant continue to play behind in every single game either.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Feb 26 @ 3:18 PM ET
I hope you're right, but if the Flyers move JVR before the deadline, they didn't think he would become LeClair.
- ravishingone

i dont see him going anywhere, especially not at the deadline
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 26 @ 3:20 PM ET
i dont see him going anywhere, especially not at the deadline
- Crimsoninja


Only way I see the Flyers dealing JvR is in a package to get Weber (offseason/next year). They have to use him to acquire a defenseman IMO. They upgraded with Grossman and Kubina for now so I dont see JvR going anywhere either.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Feb 26 @ 3:21 PM ET
I'm ok moving JVR, but it has to be for a top pairing dman that could replace carle. in fact, the assets we receive by moving carle could defray a lot of the cost. homer would have to play his cards close to the vest, though.
2731color
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.17.2007

Feb 26 @ 3:21 PM ET
So is blaming him for every single goal that he allows. But it still happens, doesn't it?
- Jsaquella

Anybody that knows a lick about hockey isn't blaming him for every single goal. Even the best are going to give up questionable goals now and then. What concerns me about Bryz is his form. I'm not a goalie nor do I play one on TV but I've been watching them for 45 years give or take. He looks unstable and seems to struggling with his position in the crease. How can a big guy luck so small? There doesn't seem to any control over the rebounds either. Maybe I'm off base but if the Flyers braintrust is seeing like it me they gotta be worried sick.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Feb 26 @ 3:22 PM ET
I'm ok moving JVR, but it has to be for a top pairing dman that could replace carle. in fact, the assets we receive by moving carle could defray a lot of the cost. homer would have to play his cards close to the vest, though.
- isaiah520


Not trying to be a troll, but what is Carle worth with him being an UFA? I'm not really sure, that is why I am asking.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 26 @ 3:24 PM ET
Not trying to be a troll, but what is Carle worth with him being an UFA? I'm not really sure, that is why I am asking.
- ravishingone


I look at what we paid for Kubina and Grossman. Then I see that Detroit gave up a 1st for Quincey. If the Flyers were sellers they could land some nice picks/prospects for Carle IMO.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Feb 26 @ 3:27 PM ET
I look at what we paid for Kubina and Grossman. Then I see that Detroit gave up a 1st for Quincey. If the Flyers were sellers they could land some nice picks/prospects for Carle IMO.
- stveshdy


k, if he is moved, I guess the organization feels Bourdon can handle 14-15 minutes a night as the 6th defensemen. I honestly don't know what is going to happen with Carle.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Feb 26 @ 3:28 PM ET
Not trying to be a troll, but what is Carle worth with him being an UFA? I'm not really sure, that is why I am asking.
- ravishingone

if we offered carle to just say, CHI, right now he might be able to fetch a #1 and a prospect. now is the only time we could get value for him, but I would only do it as part of a larger strategy to bring in a young d replacement that has already proven himself to some degree. everyone here knows I like subban...others consider that name a curse word
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Feb 26 @ 3:30 PM ET
if we offered carle to just say, CHI, right now he might be able to fetch a #1 and a prospect. now is the only time we could get value for him, but I would only do it as part of a larger strategy to bring in a young d replacement that has already proven himself to some degree. everyone here knows I like subban...others consider that name a curse word
- isaiah520


Isn't Subban, french for "suck it"? Seriously, I like P.K. also.
EastBeast18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.19.2010

Feb 26 @ 3:32 PM ET
His trapezius looks almost undeveloped compared with the rest of his body. There's something funky going on with that picture.
- bodiva88



Its has to be fake, he would get burned by every WR. He wouldnt even be able to turn around and watch ball as hes running with the receiver...lol Unless landry is is switching to LB..
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Feb 26 @ 3:32 PM ET
Of course every goal isn't on Bryzgalov, who ever implies that would be an imbecile, the fact of the matter is there are routine shots every game that are ending up in the Flyers net.

First two goals last night are a perfect example of that. Yes, Bryzgalov played well after those goals, and was good in the shootout. Thing is against the top teams in the NHL allowing any soft goals is usually fatal, let alone two.

- PLindbergh31


Breeze is playing well under his expectations. Nobody is arguing that. That said, it still doesn't absolve everybody else from doing their job either.

The second goal last night was stoppable. It was also defendable but wasn't. The blame should be equally shared at times.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Feb 26 @ 3:42 PM ET
Nothing to do with hockey...but is this real?? cant be. Hes a freaking DB..how is he going to be speedy that bulked up. Has to be photoshopped.


- EastBeast18

Landry is a monster, but he's juiced out of his mind
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 26 @ 3:44 PM ET
Breeze is playing well under his expectations. Nobody is arguing that. That said, it still doesn't absolve everybody else from doing their job either.

The second goal last night was stoppable. It was also defendable but wasn't. The blame should be equally shared at times.

- 77rams


I respectfully disagree that he is playing well. The place the Flyers are in the standings is certainly respectable. Heading into the season I would be happy if I was told they would be in the 4-6 position with 20 games left in the season. That being said I thought they could struggle to find offense losing Richards, Carter, Leino, in my wildest dreams I never thought they would be at the top of the NHL in scoring. If was told that, I would think with the "upgrade" in net they would be contending for a President's Trophy.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Feb 26 @ 3:44 PM ET
homer's a "winner" :

http://www.usatoday.com/s...trade-deadline/53255256/1
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 26 @ 3:47 PM ET
Bob McKenzie ‏ @TSNBobMcKenzie
Obviously possible Rick Nash could move by tomorrow but it were close in any way do you think CBJ would've played him today?

Good point by Bob Mac. If anything was close with Nash, he wouldn't have played today.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 26 @ 3:54 PM ET
homer's a "winner" :

http://www.usatoday.com/s...trade-deadline/53255256/1

- isaiah520


Now we need our goalie to make the basic routine stops and this team could be dangerous come playoff time.
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