I guess the Teachers Pension fund wasn't concerned about the bottom line


- faceto27

They dont understand buisiness the way bell and rogers do . They were still making good $ but the new owners will want max return on investment

No , didnt want Nash but Burke is out of touch with todays game and is a poor judge of talent. He is also to pig headed for his own good
- jiri_crha

I might actually agree with respect to Wilson....he needs to figure out what needs to be done with these players to use them effectively and fix things. Hes being stubborn and assumes constant line changes and goalie changes will stir things up.

These arnt 10 year vets hes dealing with....he needs to instruct better and make changes accordingly. Hes coaching as if he has the Sanjose roster or Canucks roster....

Someone pointed out that JFJ didn't trade for Pronger because of Steen had to be included.

They pointed out that Talk for the NYI 1st overall (Tavares) discussion ended because Schenn was being asked for.

Burke didn't want to add Gardiner in the trade for Nash. See a pattern?

Burke is overvaluing some pieces he has and I think it goes with Reimer and Gustavson too.

Get a bonified #1 goalie this team can count on for 5-8 years who is in their prime. Overpay for it. Keep Reimer as the back-up. Pogge, Raycroft, Toskala were all supposed to be the saviours, enough already.
- JFJ

Reimer is going to Reading

They dont understand buisiness the way bell and rogers do . They were still making good $ but the new owners will want max return on investment
- jiri_crha

The teachers pension fund doesn't understand buisness like bell and rogers do???

Dude, there isn't a better managed fund in the world. Get real, Get your facts straight before coming here.

thanks for coming out

Up until Monday, I would have given Burke a 9 out 10 on his performance to date.

If he truly could have gotten firsts for Kuli and Mac, then he blundered there. They are third liners.

He dropped the ball on that one.

I believe he left the team as is, and didn't sell off was to give RW one final kick at the can. There was no way the Leaf could make the playoffs by selling off Mac and Kuli for picks.

Doubt they can make the playoffs now regardless. Past two games were must wins.

They failed horribly on both nights.......... like I mean, real bad
- faceto27

Again....conditional pick for Mac and Kule is having a horrid year and will be a gem again soon enough. Why move those guys for picks and bring in your youth and expose them to this crap...they are currently on a winning team gaining needed experience. No use bringing them up right now. Not smart.

Reimer is going to Reading


- faceto27

I hear it's quite lovely this time of year.

The teachers pension fund doesn't understand buisness like bell and rogers do???

Dude, there isn't a better managed fund in the world. Get real, Get your facts straight before coming here.

thanks for coming out
- faceto27

There arent two companies in canada that make a higher profit than bell and rogers , maybe you should get your facts straight buddy

Someone pointed out that JFJ didn't trade for Pronger because of Steen had to be included.

They pointed out that Talk for the NYI 1st overall (Tavares) discussion ended because Schenn was being asked for.

Burke didn't want to add Gardiner in the trade for Nash. See a pattern?

Burke is overvaluing some pieces he has and I think it goes with Reimer and Gustavson too.

Get a bonified #1 goalie this team can count on for 5-8 years who is in their prime. Overpay for it. Keep Reimer as the back-up. Pogge, Raycroft, Toskala were all supposed to be the saviours, enough already.
- JFJ

I agree....and hoped for it a few days ago...too late now.

And Gardiner for Nash....was more like Gardiner, Lupul + for Nash....didnt make sense. Howson didnt WANT to move Nash...so rather than accepting it, he was trying to sell his toonie for a 5 dollar bill.

There arent two companies in canada that make a higher profit than bell and rogers , maybe you should get your facts straight buddy
- jiri_crha

um... ever hear of RBC, Scotiabank?

Bell and Rogers aren't even in the top 10 I don't think.

I hear it's quite lovely this time of year.
- AdamFrench

http://www.weather.com/we...today/Reading+PA+USPA1348

um... ever hear of RBC, Scotiabank?

Bell and Rogers aren't even in the top 10 I don't think.
- Big_Lightnin

I dont count banks but in profit % i am sure they are up there

There arent two companies in canada that make a higher profit than bell and rogers , maybe you should get your facts straight buddy
- jiri_crha

Oh I have my facts straight.......... I AM A ROGERS SHAREHOLDER, AND HAVE BEEN HOLDING THIS STOCK AND NOT MAKING A DIME FROM IT THE PAST 5 YEARS

Seriously........ do some research

http://www.weather.com/we...today/Reading+PA+USPA1348
- faceto27

WHAT THE (frank) IS FAHRENHEIT?

Oh I have my facts straight.......... I AM A ROGERS SHAREHOLDER, AND HAVE BEEN HOLDING THIS STOCK AND NOT MAKING A DIME FROM IT THE PAST 5 YEARS

Seriously........ do some research
- faceto27

If its that bad maybe you should get out lol

WHAT THE (frank) IS FAHRENHEIT?
- AdamFrench

FAHRENHEIT 451

I dont count banks but in profit % i am sure they are up there
- jiri_crha

also, the MLSE board has 2 new members. That's it. Essentially the same people making the decisions, and they'll at the very least give Burke the length of his contract (though I think that is 1 more year anyway right?)

Burke won't be fired, he must may not be extended. (if they miss playoffs again next season).

I might actually agree with respect to Wilson....he needs to figure out what needs to be done with these players to use them effectively and fix things. Hes being stubborn and assumes constant line changes and goalie changes will stir things up.

These arnt 10 year vets hes dealing with....he needs to instruct better and make changes accordingly. Hes coaching as if he has the Sanjose roster or Canucks roster....
- noename09

Bingo

Not sure why people are thrashing Schenn and Riemer so much. They've failed over the course of 1 season, Wilson has failed for 4. Schenn and Riemer also have a track record of being the teams best player in their position some point in their career. It's not like either have been highly touted and brought in only to struggle. Riemer put the team on his back last year, he is capable of doing so and therefore has the potential to be a #1 starter. The fact that Wilson is forcing it on to him when he's clearly not fully recovered is bad decision making, especially when Gus played fantastic hockey in Jan.

If its that bad maybe you should get out lol
- jiri_crha

Naaaaaaaaaa, you just gave me a great tip. They are one of the two best profitable companies in Canada.

Thanks for the tip bud

The teachers pension fund doesn't understand buisness like bell and rogers do???

Dude, there isn't a better managed fund in the world. Get real, Get your facts straight before coming here.

thanks for coming out
- faceto27

There is a difference..The teacher purchased the leafs as a investment the big money was made by increase in value/investment..Bell and Roger paid a boatload for MSLE an investment that likely wont get the return in increased value like the teachers did for first investment...(Some claim the reason Teachers sold because they felt MLSE had near max in terms of real value)..It gonna take time for Bell and Rogers to get to the break even point considering what they paid for MLSE..

Bell and Rogers are media/communication company's and there a load of coin to be made for them if the leafs are in playoffs, a load more than just gate revenues..

ya that was more a general statement cause Everybody calling for Wilson's head - just happened to be your comment I posted it on.
- Big_Lightnin

I agree with you..........I think if we lose every game for the rest of the season it won't matter......he won't be fired

I agree with you..........I think if we lose every game for the rest of the season it won't matter......he won't be fired
- jimdavis

yup

Bingo

Not sure why people are thrashing Schenn and Riemer so much. They've failed over the course of 1 season, Wilson has failed for 4. Schenn and Riemer also have a track record of being the teams best player in their position some point in their career. It's not like either have been highly touted and brought in only to struggle. Riemer put the team on his back last year, he is capable of doing so and therefore has the potential to be a #1 starter. The fact that Wilson is forcing it on to him when he's clearly not fully recovered is bad decision making, especially when Gus played fantastic hockey in Jan.
- Boosinicka

Gus's last game sunk him though. Just terrible. Only reason he's getting back in is because Reimer's been equally bad, or at least unable to be better.

They need to go 2 mins without getting scored on to start the game. Hell get the first goal.

Why the hell Wilson started Schenn and Gardiner last game, when he knows the team is struggling out of the gate - Why would he not start Dion and Gunnar - makes no sense at all...

Someone pointed out that JFJ didn't trade for Pronger because of Steen had to be included.

They pointed out that Talk for the NYI 1st overall (Tavares) discussion ended because Schenn was being asked for.

Burke didn't want to add Gardiner in the trade for Nash. See a pattern?

Burke is overvaluing some pieces he has and I think it goes with Reimer and Gustavson too.

Get a bonified #1 goalie this team can count on for 5-8 years who is in their prime. Overpay for it. Keep Reimer as the back-up. Pogge, Raycroft, Toskala were all supposed to be the saviours, enough already.
- JFJ

Didn't he say his style was to build from the net out??? FAIL

I agree with you..........I think if we lose every game for the rest of the season it won't matter......he won't be fired
- jimdavis

yup - but then he won't be back next year.

If Leafs miss the playoffs, and Marlies go on a deep run, Eakins will be coaching the Leafs next year.

I dont like us all when were like this


Why cant the Leafs go back to playing half decent hockey and challenge for a playoff spot while keeping things exciting night in/night out. Why cant we all go back to rainbows and unicorns and world peace, while discussing who we love the most of the team, not who we hate....

Ah...those were good times....