In terms of coaching, wilson needs to go, a new face is required behind the bench most definitely. In my best opinion, Randy Carlyle a familar face to Burke, makes the most sense since he won the cup with the ducks

wrong.

per dreger
Tor could have traded Schenn,Kulemin,MacArthur and Grabovski for 1st round picks
- Barx

Not trading Grabovski is the only one that will really hurt especially if Leafs decide to go another direction and not sign him. The other players will all continue to have possibly similar trade value in the summer if Burke wants to change things up.

no point in firing wilson now.....let the ship go down as low as it can.
start fresh after the season is over.
eakins can go for the calder, with both he and carlyle available in the summer.

as for hodgson, burke has nothing remotely close to kassian-and yes, that includes the slow-footed schenn.

burke could have had several firsts for macarthur, grabovski, reimer, schenn......he must still believe he has the core to win it all.......i think many would disagree.
- Barx

It would have taken MASSIVE stones to move all of those players to end up with a few more 1st's giving the Leafs 3/4 1st round picks including their own.

Just think of what all those 1st's could have been traded for and who the Leafs could draft with a potential lottery pick or even moving up in the draft.

Needless to say, I think Burke missed another opportunity here.

In terms of coaching, wilson needs to go, a new face is required behind the bench most definitely. In my best opinion, Randy Carlyle a familar face to Burke, makes the most sense since he won the cup with the ducks
- Mapleleafs_91

randy carlye,what makes leafs fans think he will be the answer

had the conn smythe winner in goal and two hall of famers on defense

First of all, MacArthur was only a conditional pick. The rest of them we have no guarantee that any of those picks would even replace those players or be any better.

Also, had we moved those players for picks, we would be forced to call up the younger kids who are currently playing for a winning team and furthering their development. We would have taken them out of development early, and introduced them to a losing environment. It would have been a bad, bad idea.

Would have likely set us back another 2-3 years.
- noename09

in 3 years those 'kids' are the ones playing for the leafs.
kessel, lupul, phaneuf and macarthur will all be gone.
what better time than now to get high end prospects and picks who will be ready in 3 years?

It would have taken MASSIVE stones to move all of those players to end up with a few more 1st's giving the Leafs 3/4 1st round picks including their own.

Just think of what all those 1st's could have been traded for and who the Leafs could draft with a potential lottery pick or even moving up in the draft.

Needless to say, I think Burke missed another opportunity here.
- As_I_See_It

absolutely.

they are four points out of the playoffs and four points out of the lottery.. we are officially at the tipping point
- Dozzer

wrong.

per dreger
Tor could have traded Schenn,Kulemin,MacArthur and Grabovski for 1st round picks
- Barx

What dreger says IS FACT. No disputes

i think dregs is being a bit coy on that... there was prolly more to it.
- Dozzer

Dreger is getting worse and worse, he's entering Eklund territory.

So let me get this straight Mike, since the Leafs missed out on Coho you are advocating leaf land to not cheer for the Nucks in the playoffs? That's pretty sad dude. Who the hell wants Schenn anyways, let alone for Coho. Guess what? The reason Schenn is on your team is because nobody wants him, pure and simple.
komisarek 2.0.

wrong.

per dreger
Tor could have traded Schenn,Kulemin,MacArthur and Grabovski for 1st round picks
- Barx

again....MacArthur was a "conditional" first round pick....not "a" first round pick.

Very good post! You can't just trade all your roster players for picks. You still have to have some kind core in place. And slowly bring in the youth. If everything was just about acquiring picks then we shouldve moved kessel and phaneuf and came out of it with 4 first rounders and sucked for 6 more years. People fail to realize that our core is really young and hungry. They will continue to get better and stronger together, that's exactly what we need.
- coolehmon41

Schenn,Kulemin,MacArthur and Grabovski are not the 'core'.
schenn is a 5,6 dman, macarthur is a spare part, kulemin is highly overrated and grabovski is a ufa.

the core is kessel, lupul, phaneuf,liles, gardiner.

What dreger says IS FACT. No disputes
- pens_66

burke said the same thing. fact. no disputes.

1st... With that out of the way I hope he does. Take a close look at the standings. If the Leafs continue in March like they did in Feb we can easily end up with a top 5 pick. Hopefully get a young big Center who could eventually become our #1. And if the Leafs fail that bad I don't believe even BB can keep RW asthe coach. He could bring him to the front office but not behind the bench. Then BB will have the summer to find a better fit for the coach and staff. So leave RW right there until the season ends.
- Canhockeyfan

This exactly. The time to fire RW was at the beginning of last season when he demonstrated he wasn't capable of leading an improved squad to overachieve. After 40+ years of not winning, Leafs Nation deserves nothing less than a coach who through system, motivational tactics or both gets more out of his team than what they're capable of (eg. Dave Tippett can lead the PHO nobodies to 100pts/yr and turn even the most marginal of starting goalies into some of the best in the league).

Now that we are where we are, it's in our best interests to tank as much as possible for the rest of the season to get a better draft choice, and start fresh with a new coach for next year.

unacceptable!

oh well...there's always next year
- Dozzer

Sounds like a Bills fan

Not trading Grabovski is the only one that will really hurt especially if Leafs decide to go another direction and not sign him. The other players will all continue to have possibly similar trade value in the summer if Burke wants to change things up.
- Leafshammer

i doubt it...there were no sellers, only buyers.
how else can you explain a first rounder for gaustad??

Schenn,Kulemin,MacArthur and Grabovski are not the 'core'.
schenn is a 5,6 dman, macarthur is a spare part, kulemin is highly overrated and grabovski is a ufa.

the core is kessel, lupul, phaneuf,liles, gardiner.
- Barx

What about Bozak? Is he in the future plans of the Leafs?
Second or third line center til Kadri can make an impact?

burke said the same thing. fact. no disputes.
- Barx

so why quote dreger?

It would have taken MASSIVE stones to move all of those players to end up with a few more 1st's giving the Leafs 3/4 1st round picks including their own.

Just think of what all those 1st's could have been traded for and who the Leafs could draft with a potential lottery pick or even moving up in the draft.

Needless to say, I think Burke missed another opportunity here.
- As_I_See_It

When trading for star players I don't think 1st rounders from the 16th to 30th draft position carry as much weight as you might think it does.

What about Bozak? Is he in the future plans of the Leafs?
Second or third line center til Kadri can make an impact?
- November-Juliet

Yes but cheering for losses is so morbid and backwards....I never want to be that person.
- Leafshammer

i still want them to win.. they are only 4 points out.. last year at this time they were 18 points out

people need to keep that in perspective

EDIT: sorry thats wrong.. let me figure out how to back the calender up

You guys are playing fantasy hockey.. Cant just trade out our entire roster for first round picks... Doesnt work that way, they still need to ice a product at the end of the day... Sorry

Dreger is getting worse and worse, he's entering Eklund territory.
- AdamFrench

TSN certainly blew this year compared to the competition in terms of breaking trades but please don't ever compare the credibility angle between Dreger and Eklund again.

You guys are playing fantasy hockey.. Cant just trade out our entire roster for first round picks... Doesnt work that way, they still need to ice a product at the end of the day... Sorry
- ejeezy

what games are you watching????

We should have offered Schenn and Grabovski then...