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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 4 @ 7:19 PM ET
if it is $7mm, it could be more.

But then the question becomes is he worth that much more then Carle with his play on the ice to offset the cost off the ice?

The more you pay for 1 player the less you have left for the rest, meaning less for the depth players.

- ggunky


That's my issue with the blind allegiance to Suter. I agree that Suter is a better defenseman than Carle. But it's not like comparing Shea Weber to Steve Staios. With the Flyers likely cap situation, they might not be able to afford a huge raise to add Suter and allow Carle to walk.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 4 @ 7:19 PM ET
I wonder how many times Suter misses the net from point blank in the slot.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 4 @ 7:20 PM ET
if it is $7mm, it could be more.

But then the question becomes is he worth that much more then Carle with his play on the ice to offset the cost off the ice?

The more you pay for 1 player the less you have left for the rest, meaning less for the depth players.

- ggunky


Where it comes down to you wanting your d-core run by primarily a bunch of guys best suited to secondary roles.
dillpx183
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Marietta, PA
Joined: 02.26.2011

Mar 4 @ 7:21 PM ET
good pinch off by grossman behind the net to let them move the puck out of the zone, thats what i want to see from kubina, quick shot
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 4 @ 7:21 PM ET
Good to see Hartnell stand up for a teammate. He's been on par with Giroux this year.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 4 @ 7:23 PM ET
Where it comes down to you wanting your d-core run by primarily a bunch of guys best suited to secondary roles.
- flyer_nutter


Oh, and which Shea Weber clone will Suter be playing on a pair with as a Flyer?
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Mar 4 @ 7:24 PM ET
LET'S GO FLYERS!!! CLAP! ~ CLAP! ~ CLAP!CLAP!CLAP!!!



LET'S GO FLYERS!!! CLAP! ~ CLAP! ~ CLAP!CLAP!CLAP!!!



LET'S GO FLYERS!!! CLAP! ~ CLAP! ~ CLAP!CLAP!CLAP!!!

- ggunky


bump
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 4 @ 7:26 PM ET
Oh, and which Shea Weber clone will Suter be playing on a pair with as a Flyer?
- Jsaquella


Suter is a guy who can carry a tandem hell of a lot better than say Carle, Coburn or Meszaros.

Hypothetically and for poops and giggles.

Timonen-Suter
Coburn-Meszaros
Grossman-Kubina

If Jagr and Voracek cannot be on the team next season to make it happen so be it. Sign cheap, gritty, defensive players to fill out the rest.
dillpx183
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Marietta, PA
Joined: 02.26.2011

Mar 4 @ 7:27 PM ET
can the announcers act any more like every hit along the caps bench is the hit of the decade launching players into the second level?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 4 @ 7:27 PM ET
Suter is a guy who can carry a parry hell of a lot better than say Carle, Coburn or Meszaros.

Hypothetically and for poops and giggles.

Timonen-Suter
Coburn-Meszaros
Grossman-Kubina

If Jagr and Voracek cannot be on the team next season to make it happen so be it. Sign cheap, gritty, defensive players to fill out the rest.

- flyer_nutter


That's fine, if Suter doesn't expect to be paid like he's Shea Weber. But if he's getting $7mm or even more, then I'd prefer Carle at $5mm or so.
ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

Mar 4 @ 7:27 PM ET
That's my issue with the blind allegiance to Suter. I agree that Suter is a better defenseman than Carle. But it's not like comparing Shea Weber to Steve Staios. With the Flyers likely cap situation, they might not be able to afford a huge raise to add Suter and allow Carle to walk.
- Jsaquella



I think the issue is they need to think about replacing Kimmo. He has one year left and has been a rock on this D the last 5 years.

Suter is a very similar player to Kimmo. Could the Flyers carry all 3 of Suter, Kimmo and Carle for 1 season or do they have no cap space available?




2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 4 @ 7:28 PM ET
can the announcers act any more like every hit along the caps bench is the hit of the decade launching players into the second level?
- dillpx183

no and it's (frank)ing annoying
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 4 @ 7:29 PM ET
That's my issue with the blind allegiance to Suter. I agree that Suter is a better defenseman than Carle. But it's not like comparing Shea Weber to Steve Staios. With the Flyers likely cap situation, they might not be able to afford a huge raise to add Suter and allow Carle to walk.
- Jsaquella

duh that's why we replace carle with suter
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Mar 4 @ 7:30 PM ET
2 great blocks by Schenn
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Mar 4 @ 7:30 PM ET
So far, so good. Even minus 3 important players. What happened to Timonen and Meszaros exactly?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 4 @ 7:30 PM ET
I think the issue is they need to think about replacing Kimmo. He has one year left and has been a rock on this D the last 5 years.

Suter is a very similar player to Kimmo. Could the Flyers carry all 3 of Suter, Kimmo and Carle for 1 season or do they have no cap space available?

- ggunky


I can't see a way to carry all three, even with Pronger on LTIR and dropping Voracek and Jagr for cheaper players.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Mar 4 @ 7:32 PM ET
Can't say I'm a fan of Voracek on the PP.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 4 @ 7:32 PM ET
So far, so good. Even minus 3 important players. What happened to Timonen and Meszaros exactly?
- roenick97


Undisclosed lower body injuries.
dillpx183
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Marietta, PA
Joined: 02.26.2011

Mar 4 @ 7:32 PM ET
i (frank)ing hate the neutral zone drop pass on the PP
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 4 @ 7:33 PM ET
2 great blocks by Schenn
- KINGKENZO


Weird to see him out on the point of the PP.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 4 @ 7:33 PM ET
I can't see a way to carry all three, even with Pronger on LTIR and dropping Voracek and Jagr for cheaper players.
- Jsaquella

voracek is great but jagr can leave
joepa90
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.21.2009

Mar 4 @ 7:38 PM ET
If the Flyers could actually draft and develop a decent dman once in a while you wouldnt have to worry about always trading for or signing big time FA dmen. John Carlson and his low cap hit would look great on this team right now
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 4 @ 7:40 PM ET
Giroux is gtting too fancy with in in dangerous areas.

Doing it at the other team's blue line is one thing but trying to simply deke out a guy near your own slot is playing with fire.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 4 @ 7:40 PM ET
If the Flyers could actually draft and develop a decent dman once in a while you wouldnt have to worry about always trading for or signing big time FA dmen. John Carlson and his low cap hit would look great on this team right now
- joepa90


To be fair, Carlson has struggled this season, like most of the Capitals. But he does have a huge amount of potential.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 4 @ 7:41 PM ET
Rinaldo just killed that guy. Bryz looks sharp.
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